IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2025-06-20
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04:43:00 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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08:19:24 <peter1138[d]> Right, what to do about the script API...
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09:01:17 <peter1138[d]> Is my portable AC going to do anything useful?
09:26:12 <Rubidium> depends whether heating the world is considered useful or not
10:06:04 <peter1138[d]> talltyler: sounds like you need my station cargo graph branch which shows station rating over time...
10:17:10 <talltyler> It does sound that way 🙂
10:36:23 <peter1138[d]> Cargo lost (it was waiting, now it's not) due to bad rating.
10:37:06 <peter1138[d]> Well, not quite. Due to too much waiting while ratings are low.
10:37:47 <peter1138[d]> But that's a pretty terrible rating, nothing close to 70%.
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11:00:42 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, company-town ratings? Probably not all that useful.
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11:08:34 <locosage> tree planting ratings 🤭
11:21:35 <peter1138[d]> So without any cargo being picked up the station rating sticks at 26%.
11:22:06 <peter1138[d]> Providing no service is better than providing bad service.
11:23:07 <peter1138[d]> Nobody plays with selectgoods false though 🙂
12:10:04 <peter1138[d]> economy.cpp:1125 seems odd to me.
12:10:46 <peter1138[d]> Passing `accepted_total - accepted_ind` to the cargo monitor.
12:13:33 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, ok, DeliverGoodsToIndustry already updates the cargo monitor.
12:15:35 <locosage> yeah, it's for cargo that's accepted buy other stuff like houses iirc
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14:58:54 <locosage> ffs, I just asked chatgpt to formulate a request for a mobile op support bot to get the info I need and it worked
14:59:12 <locosage> well, kinda, answer was shitty but at least relevant
14:59:26 <locosage> freaking robots captured the world already 😡
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17:53:47 <peter1138[d]> It feels a bit warm.
18:00:42 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, I probably want bananas and energy bars.
18:50:59 <andythenorth> peter1138[d]: accurate
18:57:26 <locosage> hm, either I'm using it wrong or cursor is still too dumb to be useful
18:58:11 <locosage> well, ok, too dumb for c++ code, it writes ok comments for grf-py
18:58:52 <andythenorth> they're wildly hit or miss
18:59:02 <andythenorth> depends on the vectors
18:59:20 <andythenorth> gpt is writing me a nice parse for arbitrary json to html right now
18:59:33 <andythenorth> quite good at vanilla tasks like that
18:59:54 <locosage> yeah, it's good for common tasks like that I guess
19:00:19 <locosage> but bad at anything more specific
19:15:37 <locosage> it also seems to struggle with hpp/cpp separation
19:17:30 <peter1138[d]> Is "AI" really making people dumber, or is it just that only dumb people are using "AI"?
19:21:46 <andythenorth> it's making people dumber, according to a news story today
19:27:23 <peter1138[d]> That is what I was referring to, yeah.
19:27:58 <peter1138[d]> Where do I stick the cast to make unsigned vs signed happy, when all the variables are unsigned?
19:28:08 <peter1138[d]> (uint8_t to int promotion...)
19:28:27 <andythenorth> then blithely paste the result, as though it doesn't matter
19:30:00 <dh1> "OpenAI did not respond to a request for comment." ask copilot
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19:51:43 <silent_tempest> What c++ standard I am meant to be using to build? C++20 is having issues for me
19:55:42 <Rubidium> C++20, but compilers often say they support C++20 while not supporting all of C++20
19:57:00 <Rubidium> I don't know any C++ compiler that supports all of C++20 yet
20:02:50 <silent_tempest> I haven't touched any of the yapf code. Trying to force Cmake to use an older standard is working for me but I'm trying to force it back to c++17
20:05:18 <silent_tempest> Lol okay nope that's way worse.
20:06:27 <silent_tempest> So weird. I haven't tried to build the OpenTTD source in months and while I used to be able now it's giving errors on that yapf file.
20:07:55 <peter1138[d]> Well, what compiler version are you using?
20:08:22 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, I'm having a moment... can I (not) emplace multiple new items into a vector?
20:10:56 <dwfreed> peter1138[d]: cppreference is your friend :)
20:12:52 <silent_tempest> It's looking at /usr/bin/c++... (Why Cmake. Why would you do this...) Which is Gcc 15
20:13:17 <silent_tempest> I think this will fix my build
20:16:31 <silent_tempest> Well. I've encountered another problem but yeah it fixed that issue 🙂
20:23:43 <peter1138[d]> If you need to apply that patch manually then you are building an old version, so yes, you have another problem.
20:24:54 <peter1138[d]> dwfreed: Go unicode 3/8ths yourself.
20:27:14 <silent_tempest> peter1138[d]: I am but that is how you do regression searches. 🙂
20:28:22 <silent_tempest> And now my laptop is revolting. Complaining about "low battery". Who's side are you on anyways laptop?...
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