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00:45:58  <OpenTTD_User> Hi ) please add function for rotation map in OpenTTD , now all in 3D , but OpenTTD not support ed rotate map and this not comfortably

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00:48:29  <_glx_> won't happen

00:48:40  <_glx_> it's a 2D game

01:13:12  <OpenTTD_User> Yes , I known , but will be better if in this game will add rotation map )

01:14:13  <OpenTTD_User> Because now if you have 2800 trains , hard do new routes )

01:30:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #14253: Codechange: Use GrfSpecFeature type instead of uint8_t. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14253#pullrequestreview-2831605484

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02:19:48  <wensimehrp> locomotion and openrct2 have map rotating

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02:41:53  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371316419819470888/image.png?ex=6822b170&is=68215ff0&hm=d2ec7b95aa95c7cfa80b472ab1cb364a891c643a0b91d779488f75d4e6468569&

02:41:53  <yiffgirl> just got a crash. no log or anything, just froze and then g-

02:41:53  <yiffgirl> wait wtf it's still open

02:42:08  <yiffgirl> pegging a core

02:47:11  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371317756686762045/image.png?ex=6822b2af&is=6821612f&hm=274df8bbb6634332f39c17c8ac1d760355a46efd21062deb96c5ee9edf388856&

02:47:11  <yiffgirl> after sending it a STOP signal

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02:47:39  <alexanderfxe4125_yt> Well

02:47:41  <yiffgirl> what do i do from here?

02:48:28  <alexanderfxe4125_yt> What is the code for an industry?

02:55:30  <yiffgirl> alexanderfxe4125_yt: you mean the source code? that's on github

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04:47:46  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/2516c435b711b56c530db0e44575890c6702e5a7

04:47:47  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

07:18:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] survey-summary[bot] pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/commit/d41b5a7b32c082243c2545f1ba282268d8b60b75

07:18:44  <DorpsGek>   - Add: summary for week 19 of 2025 (by OpenTTD Survey)

07:40:27  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14124: Change: Remove extra close buttons from some windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14124#issuecomment-2871245143

07:44:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14253: Codechange: Use GrfSpecFeature type instead of uint8_t. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14253

08:12:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #14124: Change: Remove extra close buttons from some windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14124#issuecomment-2871348822

08:25:35  <peter1138[d]> yiffgirl: Attach a debugger and get a backtrace.

08:27:14  <xarick> hi

08:41:17  <xarick> i got a crash getting a list of available trains

08:41:42  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371406973165240321/message.txt?ex=682305c5&is=6821b445&hm=db22c7cbc808c2ec37f27d15a6f2db72174a3c32b4b517f947b0e4dac3290ae1&

08:52:44  <peter1138[d]> See #14252

09:02:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14254: Change: Remove Apply button from NewGRF config window when unneeded. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14254

09:03:12  <xarick> nice, it fixes it, merge asap! 😛

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09:16:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14252: Fix #14251, a277cb2: [NewGRF] Increase TextRefStack to support 16 registers https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14252#issuecomment-2871712826

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09:16:29  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #14254: Change: Remove Apply button from NewGRF config window when unneeded. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14254#pullrequestreview-2832485320

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09:21:12  <xarick> iron horse has an overcapacity problem with mail

09:28:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14254: Change: Remove Apply button from NewGRF config window when unneeded. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14254#pullrequestreview-2832522389

09:29:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #14254: Change: Remove Apply button from NewGRF config window when unneeded. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14254#pullrequestreview-2832525308

09:44:24  <xarick> how smart is wagon autoremoval

09:51:46  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371424606749069312/image.png?ex=68231632&is=6821c4b2&hm=929708a17702cb7add0fd7e468c83851e410e322da0e57938d1c188f007908ca&

09:51:46  <xarick> dereferencing NULL, is this bad?

09:52:12  <LordAro> good grief.

09:56:14  <peter1138[d]> Whatever you're doing, stop doing it.

09:56:45  <peter1138[d]> Also, hot again.

09:57:58  <xarick> didn't do anything, it's just a warning

09:58:07  <xarick> no code changed

10:11:15  <xarick> found another bug related to loan

10:12:13  <xarick> click borrow loan / repay loan

10:12:19  <xarick> as a human

10:12:25  <xarick> and it doesn't bulge

10:19:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #14255: Fix #14251: Out-of-bounds writes via TextRefStack. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14255

10:20:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #14252: Fix #14251, a277cb2: [NewGRF] Increase TextRefStack to support 16 registers https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14252#issuecomment-2871942268

10:25:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #14255: Fix #14251: Out-of-bounds writes via TextRefStack. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14255#pullrequestreview-2832719486

10:25:23  <peter1138[d]> "It looks fine"

10:26:12  <peter1138[d]> But yeah, there was an overflow, and then the actual usage didn't bounds check either.

10:39:36  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371436642673623051/image.png?ex=68232167&is=6821cfe7&hm=7a0b1d879ac3c28a2bb7123c52fd116704754122c8306a6d3e4bb88bd33756cd&

10:39:36  <xarick> autoreplace not smart enough 😦

10:40:15  <xarick> replaced 12 large with 12 small

10:40:37  <xarick> I expected replace 12 large to more than 12 small and maintain train size

10:40:51  <xarick> by tile size

10:43:49  <xarick> going back to manual replace 😦

10:52:53  <xarick> understandable, it can't guess which cargo types to change

10:58:14  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371441335172730992/image.png?ex=682325c6&is=6821d446&hm=8f5505a845ac4a1106ab40746b8ca085ef63f438c08dcc3cc9c0e6aad51a4708&

10:58:14  <xarick> andythenorth: Iron Horse causing some stalls every few days

10:58:24  <xarick> map is small 256x256

11:00:51  <xarick> 230 ms hiccupts

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11:01:46  <andythenorth> xarick: your AI could do that 🙂

11:01:56  <andythenorth> or use JGRPP

11:02:39  <andythenorth> Iron Horse causing stalls is entirely unsuprising....if anyone graphed the call stack for Iron Horse use of vars, it would be 'interesting'

11:03:34  <_glx_> Weird thing is the gameloop peak matches RV peak

11:08:09  <andythenorth> no RVs in Horse 😛

11:08:15  <andythenorth> is the reporting wrong?

11:08:37  <xarick> rv peak is ~4ms

11:59:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 merged pull request #14255: Fix #14251: Out-of-bounds writes via TextRefStack. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14255

11:59:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 closed issue #14251: [Crash]: Crash opening vehicle purchase menu https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14251

11:59:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 closed pull request #14252: Fix #14251, a277cb2: [NewGRF] Increase TextRefStack to support 16 registers https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14252

12:27:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] bjornwarmedal commented on issue #14101: [Bug]: Multiplayer disconnections due to desynchronization https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14101

12:29:11  <pickpacket> I haven't been around much lately. Have there been any discussions about a target release date for 15.0?

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12:35:03  <talltyler> I don’t believe we have discussed it. We definitely need another beta first. 🙂

12:40:33  <_glx_> yup it's unsafe to release a "stable" version

12:40:50  <LordAro> could do RC1

12:41:34  <_glx_> RC1 means branching first

12:42:59  <_glx_> with all the recent changes a beta makes more sense

13:06:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14254: Change: Remove Apply button from NewGRF config window when unneeded. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14254

13:17:02  <pickpacket> anything specific we're uncertain about? I feel like the more changes keep coming in the less safe it's going to be :D Prioritise bug fixes, maybe?

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13:33:39  <xarick> i wanted unbunch

13:37:35  <xarick> my requests for 15.0:

13:38:46  <andythenorth> talltyler: I should stop extending Horse and ship a v4 beta

13:39:06  <andythenorth> maybe that would encourage 15-beta badge testing 😛

13:39:18  <andythenorth> pff major versions of grfs though...aren't possible any more

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13:40:50  <xarick> 13476, 12249

13:40:56  <xarick> the rest can wait

13:54:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14124: Change: Remove extra close buttons from some windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14124

14:20:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #13473: Change: [Script] Replace ScriptDate with ScriptEconomyDate and ScriptCalendarDate https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13473

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14:23:57  <_zephyris> peter1138[d]: Feel like poking mastadon OSS about this font design, like you did before for the sans? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD-TTF/pull/10

14:24:21  <_zephyris> Would be nice to call the hebrew done for 15

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14:34:55  <talltyler> andythenorth: I would enjoy playing with badges, still haven't actually tried them out 🙂

14:39:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened issue #14256: [Bug]: Burrow and Repay Loan buttons do not refresh https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14256

14:45:14  <xarick> what is ScriptGroup::GetNumEngines useful for

14:59:55  <_glx_> estimate autoreplace cost of a group ?

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15:07:44  <xarick> no AI uses this function, just searched

15:07:55  <xarick> except regression

15:11:51  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371505157027659866/image.png?ex=68236136&is=68220fb6&hm=f52d7c4a1c4c6e7f4169100bc740e6741d94dbd7a747cc3ef7df2bc03a43558b&

15:11:51  <xarick> what are these icons representing

15:14:06  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371505726341517434/image.png?ex=682361be&is=6822103e&hm=14c62b4a7f98c1e64061ab15fb652385d71e90268713ab82ce35032d1ed67c2b&

15:14:47  <xarick> is it the auto replace protection symbol?

15:29:08  <_glx_> yes symbols are protection|active|profit

15:31:10  <_zephyris> No support for badges in NML master, right?

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16:14:09  <_glx_> only <https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/359>

16:18:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #14257: Fix 3cf9b159: Incorrect tile colour in smallmap for snowy MP_CLEAR tiles in vegetation mode https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14257

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16:38:18  <andythenorth> 359 works so far

16:38:23  <andythenorth> been using it for months

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16:51:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #14257: Fix 3cf9b159: Incorrect tile colour in smallmap for snowy MP_CLEAR tiles in vegetation mode https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14257#pullrequestreview-2833884485

17:04:47  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #14257: Fix 3cf9b159: Incorrect tile colour in smallmap for snowy MP_CLEAR tiles in vegetation mode https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14257

17:14:36  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371536049192571000/image.png?ex=68237dfc&is=68222c7c&hm=1708eacdd960638fefa3bb4722c02bca1f7937652bbeb7dbd3c689d34455778a&

17:14:36  <xarick> I'm confused

17:15:36  <xarick> if I don't want vehicles to be renewed, autoreplace protection must be enabled

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17:16:42  <xarick> if not false && false different than not false

17:17:57  <xarick> i rather just go with true/false words

17:19:36  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371537308527886356/image.png?ex=68237f28&is=68222da8&hm=ad6d01380814df7e685133097567c58e2fd8c933ebd6a5e4603914eb0eaea9fb&

17:26:10  <xarick> didn't work

17:26:16  <xarick> vehicle was renewed

17:26:22  <xarick> what am I doing wrong

17:27:54  <xarick> it was autorenewed upon entering depot, then manually sold

17:28:12  <xarick> the main goal was to just sell

17:28:18  <xarick> renewing wasn't supposed to happen

17:30:26  <xarick> does me entering the AI company affect the results of autorenew?

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17:52:47  <_glx_> autorenew doesn't use autoreplace protection

17:53:08  <_glx_> because it's independant

17:53:43  <_glx_> if you want to prevent autorenew you need to disable it

17:58:07  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #14256: [Bug]: Burrow and Repay Loan buttons do not refresh https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14256

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18:14:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #14256: [Bug]: Burrow and Repay Loan buttons do not refresh https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14256

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18:28:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14258: Fix #14256, dfd9fbf873: Company finance windows not updated when paused. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14258

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18:30:45  <peter1138[d]> Alternative idea, make all window dirtying deferred...

18:32:30  <peter1138[d]> (Although the "set a bit now, invalidate multiple widgets later" approach is likely more effective here.)

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18:38:53  <peter1138[d]> ((Of course, the dirty blocks system is kinda deferred already))

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19:47:11  <peter1138[d]> Well.

19:56:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14259: Fix 0829604b4f: Dragging of selected order was still not possible. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14259

20:08:29  <xarick> ` if (AIVehicle.GetState(vehicle_id) != AIVehicle.VS_CRASHED && !AIVehicle.IsStoppedInDepot(vehicle_id) && AIOrder.IsCurrentOrderPartOfOrderList(vehicle_id)) {`

20:08:29  <xarick> this check is incomplete.

20:08:46  <xarick> there can be automatic service orders

20:11:55  <xarick> AIOrder.GetOrderFlags(vehicleID, ORDER_CURRENT)

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20:27:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #14260: Change: [Script] ScriptVehicleList_Station accepts an optional VehicleType parameter https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14260

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20:33:48  <xarick> nice, but not gonna be as mask of vehicle types I'm interested in?

20:35:32  <xarick> Detecting the right kind of order is actually difficult.

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20:46:41  <_glx_> if you want more than one vehicle types you can combine lists

20:47:58  <xarick> how to check existing order flags

20:49:21  <_glx_> AIOrder.GetOrderFlags()

20:52:15  <xarick> my brain got stuck

20:54:12  <xarick> IsGotoDepotOrder does this work on ORDER_CURRENT?

20:58:33  <_glx_> it should

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21:01:12  <_glx_> if current order is depot and not from the order list, it's used directly

21:02:14  <_glx_> else the current order is translated to order from the list

21:06:42  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1371594457861980160/image.png?ex=6823b461&is=682262e1&hm=ead6872de4c18fbe18f435fdeefe0f9421636f920f7387fece82aa666527a588&

21:06:42  <xarick> I'm getting somewhere finally

21:07:37  <xarick> I've been all this time failing to send vehicles to depot if their ORDER_CURRENT is an automated service

21:07:49  <xarick> think I got this

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21:12:59  <xarick> `if (AIVehicle.GetState(vehicle_id) != AIVehicle.VS_CRASHED && !AIVehicle.IsStoppedInDepot(vehicle_id) && (AIOrder.IsCurrentOrderPartOfOrderList(vehicle_id) || !AIOrder.IsGotoDepotOrder(vehicle_id, AIOrder.ORDER_CURRENT) || (AIOrder.GetOrderFlags(vehicle_id, AIOrder.ORDER_CURRENT) & AIOrder.OF_STOP_IN_DEPOT) == 0)) {` probably this will work

21:13:41  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14261: Fix 0ce30d05c8: Replacing a dropdown list could reposition it partially off-screen. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14261

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21:45:55  <andythenorth> naptime

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22:05:25  <peter1138[d]> Nine

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