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00:11:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #13883: Codechange: Use std::swap() instead of Swap() https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13883#pullrequestreview-2708877033



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04:46:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/997f8abaec7308fb47759b5b86f61f29a2cf4e3a



04:46:59  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)



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06:47:55  <pickpacket> Good morning! Another wonderful Monday!



06:54:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] bjornwarmedal updated pull request #13878: Change: [Script] Add vehicle owner to crash event https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13878



06:58:23  <truebrain> What a nice (and good) PR description that PR has 🙂 I like good motivation 🙂



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07:08:46  <zanooda2000> Hi. Just a little question... you know. Are block signals will remain the same in 15.0?



07:08:46  <zanooda2000> New green pbs are cool, thanks for that.



07:13:09  <reldred> no, they're removed entirely in 15.0



07:14:30  <pickpacket> truebrain: anything for you ;)



07:15:00  <pickpacket> reldred: block signals removed? 🤔



07:15:23  <emperorjake> reldred: About damn time 😆



07:16:02  <pickpacket> sounds like that would break a whole lot of save games



07:16:48  <pickpacket> do all signals cost equally in infrastructure maintenance?



07:17:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] survey-summary[bot] pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/commit/23c06298b11b08f5509a6e1273ad42048f765f84



07:17:54  <DorpsGek>   - Add: summary for week 12 of 2025 (by OpenTTD Survey)



07:21:45  <zanooda2000> pickpacket: rrrr, seems like they are just trolling



07:21:45  <zanooda2000> I was pretty annoyin on that topic some time ago, but now just asking...



07:25:43  <pickpacket> damnit, reldred! You pretty much had me there 😂



07:25:58  <andythenorth> will signals have badgers?



07:29:18  <belajalilija> reldred: Inshallah



07:33:20  <pickpacket> is there a list somewhere that shows what all the different badges in vehicle lists mean? I haven't figured out more than a couple



08:05:50  <ahyangyi> pickpacket: It sounds like a *blocking* issue!



08:07:09  <pickpacket> ahyangyi: 😆



08:07:20  <pickpacket> andythenorth: or snakes? Mushrooms?



08:08:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] matthijskooijman commented on pull request #98:  Script-Fu: Support GIMP3 in addition to GIMP2 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX/pull/98#pullrequestreview-2709488992



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08:13:03  <Amicdict> Has anyone ever tried using the resultage of a scenario for game development?



08:34:35  <LordAro> "resultage" is not a word



08:36:30  <LordAro> (and i can't tell what you mean)



08:41:34  <pickpacket> "resultage" should totally be a word.



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09:17:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] jayaddison commented on pull request #98:  Script-Fu: Support GIMP3 in addition to GIMP2 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX/pull/98#pullrequestreview-2709672169



09:18:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] jayaddison approved pull request #98:  Script-Fu: Support GIMP3 in addition to GIMP2 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX/pull/98#pullrequestreview-2709674985



09:37:52  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] jayaddison closed pull request #96: Script-Fu: update to GIMP3-compatible implementation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX/pull/96



09:37:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] jayaddison commented on pull request #96: Script-Fu: update to GIMP3-compatible implementation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX/pull/96#issuecomment-2747476942



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10:59:31  <xarick> I really wonder



11:00:36  <xarick> there must be some AI advertising factory out there generating just made up ads targeting me 😦



11:01:02  <xarick> too much coincidences



11:02:35  <xarick> it's like someone is spying my intrusive thoughts and then creating advertisements about it



11:02:48  <peter1138> It's called Facebook, Google, YouTube, Amazon, etc, etc...



11:03:32  <xarick> what a facade



11:04:04  <peter1138> Don't worry though, Discord will be doing it all as well.



11:04:32  <peter1138> Even if they are not forcing adverts on you yet, they'll be training on and selling your data.



11:05:13  <xarick> Spy ads



11:06:20  <exceptik> peter1138: replace will with is



11:15:33  <xarick> I really wanted to PR this, but was already told no 😦 <https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/compare/master...SamuXarick:OpenTTD:do-not-reset-AIConfig-when-reloading-AI>



11:23:09  <pickpacket> xarick: it sounds counter-intuitive to me to *not* reset config on reload. 🤔 That said I don't really care



11:24:32  <pickpacket> about project finances: can someone confirm or debunk this: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1273684#p1273684



11:26:02  <peter1138> What needs confirming?



11:26:45  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1353691502886260837/2025-03-24_11-25-54.mp4?ex=67e292f4&is=67e14174&hm=9767ebcf2212dfcabe6d50b97883daa027faa1525dca20ba5328409fd157f546&



11:27:34  <LordAro> xarick: there are plenty of settings you cannot change within game



11:30:28  <_glx_> For me it could work if it was optional, like a button in script parameters window to store the running settings into slot settings



11:32:12  <_glx_> Your use case seems very specific, I think most AI users don't care about that



11:46:45  <pickpacket> peter1138: are there different funding pools for the forum and the game?



11:50:42  <xarick> openttd approaching 900 files



11:51:08  <_glx_> pitpacket: yes



11:54:26  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1353698469554159737/screenshot66.png?ex=67e29971&is=67e147f1&hm=9586589d5a2ad3655a6e61c7681d33f1cd13632bbc3d6aa629f47168f63c7589&



11:54:26  <xarick> a busy 4k map



11:56:18  <ahyangyi> How many AAAHogExs did you let loose?



11:57:02  <peter1138> pickpacket, tt-forums is not OpenTTD. OpenTTD is not tt-forums.



11:57:52  <pickpacket> peter1138: but forum.openttd.org points to tt-forums



11:58:06  <pickpacket> easy to believe that it's the same project



11:59:13  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1353699673856282675/screenshot67.png?ex=67e29a90&is=67e14910&hm=25b5765f09ee1b78bfc29f3ce8b2380ee75a09cf4a087d32dc7d9d2072d3c732&



11:59:13  <xarick> it's not AAAHogEx this time



12:02:48  <xarick> Hog has much larger spikes



12:03:31  <xarick> wondering if it can really max out



12:03:53  <xarick> I wish frozen economy worked as intended



12:04:03  <xarick> but industries are still planted 😦



12:04:46  <xarick> hog is a bit too shy on trying ships



12:06:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #13882: Fix #13875: [Script] be less strict about empty constructor format for doxygen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13882#pullrequestreview-2710153472



12:08:04  <xarick> alright, gonna try Hog again



12:08:31  <peter1138> If we had our own forums it wouldn't redirect to another site.



12:08:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #13848: Codechange: Rename short CargoType parameters `cargo`. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13848#pullrequestreview-2710160548



12:10:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #13878: Change: [Script] Add vehicle owner to crash event https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13878#issuecomment-2747916307



12:10:55  <xarick> oh, we got a Hog v98



12:11:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #13848: Codechange: Rename short CargoType parameters `cargo`. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13848#pullrequestreview-2710167547



12:22:09  <xarick> experimenting cargodist with hog, let's see



12:26:03  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1353706427667054592/screenshot68.png?ex=67e2a0db&is=67e14f5b&hm=107ca2f3ba480121104cb1bbcc7b0e379dfb9bb473b4b80acdd921d1cdefbad5&



12:26:03  <xarick> doesn't seem to handle cargodist too well



12:35:17  <LordAro> pickpacket: turns out you can set up redirects to anywhere you like



12:38:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #13882: Fix #13875: [Script] be less strict about empty constructor format for doxygen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13882



12:38:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 closed issue #13875: [Bug]: OpenTTD GameScript API Docs completely miss description of GSText. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13875



12:54:48  <pickpacket> LordAro: of course :) I just meant that it gives the impression that they're the same



12:56:51  <_glx_> If you check carefully you'll see the redirection points to a subsection of tt-forums



13:12:42  <peter1138> I'd be fine with it pointing to the complete forum.



13:12:48  <peter1138> Dunno about orudge though :)



13:21:32  <pickpacket> _glx_: I know, but my point still stands 😂 



13:22:16  <pickpacket> anyway. I don't know whether I should split the €6/month I set aside between the two, and in that case what ratio. Yes, this is a silly problem



13:27:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] bjornwarmedal updated pull request #13878: Change: [Script] Add vehicle owner to crash event https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13878



13:32:23  <peter1138> pickpacket, speak to orudge, due to processing fees it might be better doing something else.



13:54:57  <pickpacket> 👍



14:52:14  * peter1138 fixes colleague's regex. If in doubt, blame regex. Or DNS. Or DHCP.



15:01:51  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1353745634854961265/image.png?ex=67e2c55e&is=67e173de&hm=25b25408300195ff720f2dbc7b39d32a895afead57ba26631fe0ba5aa81dc079&



15:01:51  <xarick> shared canals when?



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16:33:20  <xarick> old PR - <https://github.com/SamuXarick/OpenTTD/pull/6>



16:33:29  <xarick> canal owner



16:35:29  <xarick> does JGR have canal owners in map array?



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16:37:16  <xarick> I was mad I couldn't build ship depots or docks and others into competitor canals



16:37:21  <xarick> so i made that PR



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17:37:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #13848: Codechange: Rename short CargoType parameters `cargo`. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13848



17:42:47  <pickpacket> xarick: that is curious... I've never tried but I assumed that one could build docks and depots in someone else's canal, seeing as the locks can be used by anyone. But when thinking about it I see why the limitation is there. Allowing it would mean that you can block a competitor's canal with docks or depots



17:51:39  <xarick> my implementation was rejected



17:52:55  <zanooda2000> pickpacket: Nice idea for "good local" servers, but for majority of "casual pvp-like" servers such feature needs to be disable-able.



17:56:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #13848: Codechange: Rename short CargoType parameters `cargo`. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13848#pullrequestreview-2711272685



18:09:16  <peter1138> Hmm, annoying. `x = {};` for simple initialisation fails if it has a unique_ptr :/



18:18:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13848: Codechange: Rename short CargoType parameters `cargo`. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13848



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19:56:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884



19:56:16  <andythenorth> do we have a var for total train length in 1/8 units? 🙂



19:56:19  <andythenorth> I am failing to see it



19:56:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic opened pull request #13885: Change: Treat already built errors as success when building long road or rail https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13885



19:59:15  <kuhnovic> Now let's make sure xJayMorex doesn't feel like I'm stealing his idea's. I don't want to chase away a first time contributor (or anyone really)



20:01:40  <frosch123> andythenorth: No.



20:13:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic commented on pull request #13861: Fix #11528: Build tracks/road through bridges and tunnels without adding unnecessary tiles https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13861#issuecomment-2749285870



20:18:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] xJayMorex commented on pull request #13861: Fix #11528: Build tracks/road through bridges and tunnels without adding unnecessary tiles https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13861#issuecomment-2749297689



20:25:10  <andythenorth> I suspect that a train length var used by cb36 to change vehicle length....



20:25:18  <andythenorth> might be unwise 😛



20:30:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884



20:36:37  <peter1138> CB36 might be unwise.



20:38:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884#pullrequestreview-2711563679



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20:55:14  <_glx_> haha and this time MSVC properly warns about size_t to smaller



21:00:40  <peter1138> There's warnings we can enable but then it's a bit too strict.



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21:05:38  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884



21:07:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884#pullrequestreview-2711682562



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21:22:35  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884#pullrequestreview-2711711445



21:49:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] github-advanced-security[bot] commented on pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884#pullrequestreview-2711755337



22:04:05  <jfkuayue> xarick: I just typed “Hokkaido” in another program, and a video site starting to provide me Hakodate travel vlogs



22:10:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 merged pull request #13884: Cleanup strgen https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13884



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22:19:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #13876: Codechange: Encode case/gender/plural choice lists without null termination, only length prefix https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13876



22:19:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13886: Fix: Not enough parameters supplied for Autoreplace window caption. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13886



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22:22:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #13886: Fix: Not enough parameters supplied for Autoreplace window caption. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13886#pullrequestreview-2711810646



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23:01:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13886: Fix: Not enough parameters supplied for Autoreplace window caption. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13886



23:47:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13883: Codechange: Use std::swap() instead of Swap() https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13883