IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2024-12-24
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04:44:19 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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08:51:54 <johnfranklin> Optimists will be happy after 22 December;
08:51:54 <johnfranklin> Pessimists will be sad after 22 June.
08:51:54 <johnfranklin> But this only applies to northern hemisphere.
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09:35:05 <peter1138> synths synths synths
09:35:45 <reldred> Its eight PM and the sun is still out
09:36:15 <peter1138> Is that not normal for summer?
09:36:42 <reldred> It is, but I dislike it.
09:37:45 <johnfranklin> The sunrise-sunset time of my hometown in June 22 is 0450-1930.
09:39:08 <belajalilija> johnfranklin: The one timezone policy and its consequences have been a disaster for the Han race
09:40:32 <johnfranklin> I live geographically in UTC8 so I don’t feel it…
09:42:16 <johnfranklin> Or what about Vigo, Spain using UTC+1, in summer UTC+2?
09:46:46 <wensimehrp> can I use a grf to override existing vehicles' badge and power properties?
09:48:00 <peter1138> Yeah, overrides will allow that.
09:49:14 <reldred> Can I turn them off? 😈
09:50:09 <peter1138> The ulterior motive...
09:50:24 <peter1138> Implement this huge extension so that I don't have to see it 😉
09:50:55 <peter1138> Configuration is a bit ugly.
09:51:11 <peter1138> It works but it's not like anything else in the game.
09:52:31 <peter1138> Badges can also be set for stations, road stops, objects, houses, industries...
09:52:36 <reldred> Hey, I’d be more willing to use badges with a nice unified system like this.
09:53:14 <reldred> I think it works better for list based stuff like this, and maybe road and rail selection.
09:53:29 <peter1138> Oh yeah, road and rail types too.
09:53:55 <reldred> But using it for metadata generally… I can think of uses for houses specifically
09:54:05 <peter1138> reldred: Possibly. But you get the other features like extra information display, and searching by text as well.
09:54:20 <wensimehrp> you mean town buildings?
09:54:33 <peter1138> Yeah, houses = town buildings
09:55:16 <wensimehrp> reldred: I was skipping this line
09:55:46 <reldred> peter1138: I don’t think that’s a bad thing
09:56:00 <reldred> This is good. This is innovation.
09:57:29 <peter1138> I want to make filtering easier to use, but I don't want to add a dropdown list per badge type...
09:58:14 <reldred> This with newhouses would eliminate most of the nonsense I was doing with classes and to boot make cross grf compatibility easier as well.
09:58:59 <reldred> Drop down with a checkbox for each badge category?
09:59:20 <peter1138> A filter for your filters? Heh
09:59:23 <reldred> Country on/off, gauge on/off,
09:59:35 <reldred> They gave me pills for my pills
09:59:48 <peter1138> Or one dropdown list that cascades.
10:08:13 <reldred> Broad brush strokes I think, for instance I might personally like to see gauge and electrification type but not care one bit about flag, operator logo, some other logo specifically for the set, etc
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11:02:52 <xarick> is 10 characters the new standard? Fix 6a07f28103:
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12:12:54 <Rubidium> any reasons not to tag?
12:16:01 <LordAro> xarick: there is no standard
12:18:15 <Rubidium> well... it's already the 25th on Christmas Islands, and nowhere's on the 23rd anymore ;)
12:31:25 <Rubidium> if it's too early, then I might not be able to press the buttons. I did make a draft release, which I hope others can undraft ;)
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13:30:20 <michi_cc> Permission to press buttons granted, but I‘m not near a PC today.
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13:58:16 <_glx_> typical if only used in assert
13:58:42 <_glx_> there's an attribute for that
14:06:21 <xarick> forgot MarkTileDirtyByTile(t);
15:04:02 <xarick> but it makes things much more clean and readable 😦
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15:14:17 <digitalfox> PeterNviaGitHub: The link to the changelog on the site gives error “Not found”
15:15:11 <peter1138> Ah yes, we didn't fix it for markdown.
15:18:42 <digitalfox> And thank you, to all who worked one more year on making OpenTTD the most awesome game 🙏
15:22:34 <merni> Changelog is markdown now 😮
15:54:53 <merni> Aha, `changelog.sh` seems to be broken somehow
16:08:03 <_glx_> the issue is we can't just switch to .md, because older release pages still need .txt
16:13:23 <merni> No, but here even the Markdown file isn't being generated properly
16:13:50 <merni> ie, the shell-script that is supposed to extract only the current version's changelog from the master changelog doesn't seem to work anymore
16:14:28 <merni> it seems to rely on the fact that the version number used to start in the first column, which it doesn't anymore thanks to markdown `###` etc
16:14:43 <merni> And that script is a mass of grep, awk and sed 🥲
16:16:08 <merni> I seem to understand some of it now, though
16:38:28 <merni> merni: Emphasis on some
16:38:43 <merni> I am half tempted to convert it to a python script 😆
16:38:51 <_glx_> needs some `#\+ ` between `^` and `[0-`
16:39:31 <_glx_> also needs adding some `#` to tag
16:39:51 <_glx_> because `if ($1=="'$tag'")` can't match
16:40:30 <merni> $1 would match ### right now
16:40:37 <merni> I think $2 would be the tag
16:40:38 <_glx_> if you want to make it a python script feel free 🙂
16:41:02 <merni> _glx_: Would that work with the workflows though? If so, certainly :)
16:41:13 <merni> ie can the workflows execute a python script
16:42:25 <_glx_> yes we have some workflows using python (unused strings, script mode)
16:43:23 <_glx_> and you can always make test releases on your fork to check how it runs
16:49:58 <_glx_> changelog will be in openttd-bundle artifact
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16:57:39 <_glx_> anyway link to .md would be useless since the generating script is broken 🙂
17:29:34 <merni> _glx_: Well, turns out this was not actually necessary since buiding the source is the first step anyway :)
17:43:39 <merni> Oh, I forgot Python `print` has implicit `\n` at the end
17:43:58 <merni> I was racking my brain as to why everything is separated by blank lines 😆
17:49:20 <merni> Oh, hmm, there is also "## 14.x" to be dealt with.
17:50:26 <_glx_> yeah source is first step, but no need to run the next steps 😉
17:50:40 <merni> Yeah so I just cancel once source finished
17:50:55 <merni> Easier than making a commit to do that temporary change, then reverting it later
18:04:31 <merni> Hmm, these newly added "14.x", "13.x" headings are a bit of a pain
18:05:02 <merni> We don't want to stop there when they are the first line, but otherwise we consider them as the start of another version and stop there
18:05:26 <merni> That seems inelegant but I guess is the only option
18:37:20 <michi_cc> Somebody write in the announcement channel here 😎
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19:02:25 <merni> Man I love this whole preview thing
19:27:12 <talltyler> michi_cc: I helped 😛
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21:52:49 <truebrain> talltyler: did we ever got to explaining to you how to post news on Steam? 🙂
21:55:10 <talltyler> You gave me access but only after the latest news item was posted, so no, I did not learn
21:55:37 <talltyler> I am still happy to learn, but not today, as I am out of town for the holidays 🙂
21:59:27 <truebrain> Next time. I will fix this release tomorrow
22:35:20 <johnfranklin> Do countries which celebrate Christmas have a tradition waiting until 12AM 25th?
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22:59:48 <atomixking> are the amount of installs on a particular newgrf logged at all? That's to sort them by popularity, which I'd imagine has been suggested already, but would definitely make the menu a lot easier to navigate
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23:48:09 <_glx_> yeah time played is probably the most useful info, amount of install doesn't mean much as many people used to download everything
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