IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2024-12-13
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00:00:55 <wensimehrp> andythenorth: PR created
00:02:09 <peter1138> You removed a new line after STR_GENERIC_NEWLINE.
00:04:08 <wensimehrp> I didn't edit that line
00:15:43 <peter1138> Hmm, advantage of StringParameterData being a variant is I can chunk almost anything in there...
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00:29:01 <orspeeder> would it be ok if I mad ea PR that add more ways of adding industries to the map on the scenario editor? my motivation is make my life easier to "hand place" industries to certain geographic areas when I am switching industry sets, instead of deleting everything and actually hand-placing one by one all over again...
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02:56:19 <talltyler> Absolutely! Scenario Editor can use some love. 🙂
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04:26:17 <orspeeder> There was a fork of openttd some time ago called "reproducible generator", I modified that fork and added some python scripts to generate some cool maps, for example with river valleys with erosions... sadly I don't have the source of all that right now 😦
04:26:34 <orspeeder> only evidence I have of that stuff is a scenario I uploaded on the forums
04:45:37 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
05:03:44 <talltyler> Have you seen this? It’s merged, but there hasn’t been a stable release since.
05:05:05 <talltyler> As far as reproducible goes, it would be easy to add a way to generate this town data from an existing game, so you could easily reuse it in a new game with a different set of GRFs, etc.
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08:15:59 <truebrain> Rubidium: what was that name of that SAST that we sometimes used to check OpenTTD's code? That expensive one with thousands of suggestions?
08:16:20 <truebrain> (I am not referring to CodeQL; the one we used before that)
08:22:38 <kuhnovic> We use it at work. It's pretty amazing how much it finds.
08:24:49 <truebrain> Did they improve the UI?
08:24:58 <truebrain> It used to be a very shitty UI
08:25:18 <truebrain> The analysis itself is the best I have seen 😄
08:26:32 <kuhnovic> I've only used it with the command line haha
08:27:14 <kuhnovic> I mostly deal with the analysis reports, it's part of our CI/CD. And I don't have to set that up 😛
09:51:07 <andythenorth> what shall we do today brain?
09:54:39 <andythenorth> maybe I'll get GPT to write me a toml validator for grf lang
09:55:18 <andythenorth> might go better if I got vscode and got copilot to do it, maybe
09:55:36 <andythenorth> GPT is about 40:60 reliable in recent experiences
09:55:57 <andythenorth> I am about 20:80 reliable, so GPT is better than me
10:02:53 <andythenorth> we could discuss dunning kruger though
10:03:04 <andythenorth> if I'm 20% reliable, am I competent to self-assess?
11:43:06 <peter1138> I imagine a fair bit would need rewriting to it with vanilla's methods. Saveload and Commands are very different between vanilla and JGRPP.
12:14:23 <xarick> i thought poe2 early access was free to download
12:14:36 <xarick> turns out it's behind a 30 paywall
12:24:55 <kuhnovic> Guess you have to stick to openttd then 😉
12:54:27 <peter1138> If you want we can stick OpenTTD behind a paywall?
12:55:09 <_glx_> xarick: It's a way to support the Devs, final version will be free
12:58:14 <peter1138> So you buy "points"? What do "points" do... seems very pay-to-win to me.
13:01:05 <_glx_> If they do it like first version, you only pay for cosmetic
13:05:50 <xarick> it's pay to win even though the elitists say it's not
13:06:13 <xarick> only because they call it "convenience"
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13:37:29 <peter1138> Should I ask them to change casts... `(float)x` to `static_cast<float>(x)` ?
13:38:12 <andythenorth> should I do pay-to-win Iron Horse?
14:39:25 <peter1138> Hmm, so changing a spec to add instead of replace...
15:14:54 <Rubidium> truebrain / kuhnovic: indeed coverity. It's quite a hassle to set up and I wonder whether the accounts still work. Maybe something to check in a week-and-a-half? If I don't forget
15:15:29 <truebrain> Nah, CodeQL is finnneee. I was just looking for the name :d
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16:00:37 <_jgr_> peter1138: Saveload and the command layer would be fairly simple mechanical changes for the most part, they're both fairly thin layers
16:00:48 <_glx_> youtube and its obsession to auto translate video titles and description is so annoying
16:01:28 <_jgr_> I expect it's what it actually does, the design, and the UI which would result in the objections
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17:17:30 <peter1138> Ah, those picky developers 🙂
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18:01:31 <_glx_> ok new merge experience doesn't show approve and run
18:01:43 <peter1138> Heh, I always just commented that line out and it was fine. But that seems correct.
18:03:16 <peter1138> I don't have any track pad devices to test #13169 myself, but it seems reasonable.
20:08:53 <_glx_> you are ready for the pitchforks ?
20:19:14 <belajalilija> <a:partyparrot:798530839839113246>
20:53:58 <peter1138> Requires tooltips to be visible and... ead.
20:54:09 <peter1138> My r key is being dodgy 😦
20:58:29 <wensimehrp> The name advanced is pretty confusing
20:59:44 <wensimehrp> They're advanced since... They are basic?
21:03:57 <andythenorth> advanced is more pro
21:14:22 <kuhnovic> xarick: I'm doing it again, making somewhat radical changes to the ship PF. So if you feel like torture testing it with your 70K savegames, then that would be very helpful.
21:14:39 <peter1138> But also kinda pointless :p
21:18:07 <kuhnovic> Not entirely. He found some major issues with my previous attempt at fixing these issues.
21:24:18 <kuhnovic> Is there a way to load a savegame and ignore any NewGRFs?
21:24:46 <kuhnovic> Nevermind, that works out of the box...
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21:37:24 <kuhnovic> That's enough pathfinder shenanigans for today
21:40:33 <andythenorth> ` nmlc warning: "generated/lang/portuguese_BR.lng", line 220: Undefined command "SIGNED"`
21:40:36 <andythenorth> fricking translations
21:40:40 <andythenorth> yak-shaving crap
21:41:20 <andythenorth> wensimehrp: merged yours 😉
21:43:12 <andythenorth> FFS, fixing that `SIGNED WORD` to be `SIGNED_WORD` causes nmlc to find a bunch more unused strings
21:53:16 <peter1138> Hmm, returning a pointer to a std::string to be filled in. Perhaps.
21:54:52 <peter1138> Passing the string to the function means formatting the string even if it's not needed.
22:03:38 <belajalilija> peter1138: No, bad, people don’t read
22:17:56 <peter1138> If I try will I actually sleep?
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22:30:54 <_glx_> andythenorth: I really should look at outputting unused strings directly from nml
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