IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2024-09-14
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01:21:04 <goddess_ishtar> peter1138: wait, this channel isn't actually only bridged to IRC?
01:28:42 <_glx_> it is, but other things can bridge to the IRC channel too
01:37:26 <soylent_cow[m]> i have a passenger plane that flies for about 1000 seconds, the very first one, and it won't break even
01:37:38 <soylent_cow[m]> i feel like i am running a socialist airline overhere
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04:45:06 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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08:26:01 <Afdal> Is there a way to bring back the old autosave interval behavior?
08:26:14 <Afdal> I'd much rather use in-game time then real time for my autosaves
08:26:21 <Afdal> especially on servers >.>
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09:14:41 <LordAro> i can see it being a bug that autosave happens regardless of whether the game has been paused the whole time
09:16:02 <peter1138> If that was the case, perhaps...
09:16:25 <peter1138> (openttd.cpp:1295-1297)
09:17:16 <peter1138> Well, at least it's mentioned, I assume it works :p
09:21:20 <peter1138> Yeah, IntervalTimer itself takes care of not executing the timer function when PeriodFlags::AUTOSAVE is set.
09:21:24 <_jgr_> It should work fine if you're not using a GS
12:00:45 <aviationgamerx> do I need to learn git commands and use a git software? or does github's UI cover everything?
12:07:40 <talltyler> You should learn the command line. You cannot do everything on the website, and GitHub for Desktop was missing some key functionality last I tried it.
12:08:07 <talltyler> It’s pretty straightforward for the most common actions (commit, rebase, push/force push)
12:09:02 <peter1138> It seems that you can "get by" with the UIs, but any time you need to do something slightly different you'll get stuck.
12:12:37 <aviationgamerx> alright thanks
12:14:14 <aviationgamerx> but if not in github desktop, where do the commands get written?
12:20:29 <talltyler> You can install the git command line, that’s what I did
12:20:57 <peter1138> What development environment do you intend to use?
12:20:57 <talltyler> If you install git the commands are also available in PowerShell and regular cmd though
12:21:08 <peter1138> (VS Code works for but other people do differently)
12:22:57 <truebrain> we only download artifacts we uploaded; so it is not a false positive perse, but it would require one of us trying to misuse it 😛 So yeah 🙂
12:23:56 <truebrain> hmm, on second look .. we use `@4` ... so we automatically upgraded
12:24:04 <truebrain> so not sure why the report stays open
12:24:51 <_glx_> Update are not picked up I think, because dependabot is actually disabled
12:25:01 <truebrain> but it was never an issue to start with
12:25:12 <_glx_> Or maybe it's for another repo
12:25:15 <truebrain> as soon as they released 4.1.7, we upgraded
12:25:43 <andythenorth> I never figured out how to placate dependabot for my repos 😛
12:25:46 <truebrain> bit odd, that they generated the report to start with
12:25:49 <andythenorth> it's very angry about jquery
12:26:41 <truebrain> Here at least it noticed that it is fixed .. sort of. It still keeps the alert open
12:26:51 <truebrain> seems GitHub has some work to do in these corner cases 🙂
12:28:00 <andythenorth> what's the expected action for a dependabot alert that is spurious?
12:28:17 <truebrain> it should never have been created
12:28:22 <truebrain> it was never an issue for the way we had it setup
12:28:29 <andythenorth> well it was valid for me, then I upgraded jquery
12:28:32 <andythenorth> but it doesn't self close
12:28:47 <andythenorth> except sometimes it does
12:29:17 <andythenorth> none of these are 'I have fixed it'
12:29:28 <truebrain> you can read, I am so proud! 🙂
12:30:00 <andythenorth> Truebrain 4o is mean
12:30:11 <andythenorth> I think 4o mini might be better tuned thogh
12:30:34 <andythenorth> maybe we should make GPTs of each other
12:30:54 <Rubidium> thanks for confirming those alerts could indeed be ignored
12:30:59 <truebrain> the world really don't need more of us andythenorth
12:31:13 <truebrain> Rubidium: yeah, tnx for pointing them out. I closed them now.
12:35:33 <andythenorth> pff I have closed my alerts
12:35:54 <andythenorth> I hate this kind of thing, if we *have* do homework, I want 10 out of 10 score, not just cheating
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13:29:25 <aviationgamerx> quick question, I know >> and << are used in stream in c++, but seems like it's usage here is different, I see a lot of times it is used in conditions or in areas like here, what am I missing
13:31:53 <audigex> Specifically >> is arithmetic right shift, meaning it maintains signs (positive or negative). >>> is logical right shift which does not
13:33:00 <peter1138> Being used as stream operators is the weird thing.
13:34:05 <aviationgamerx> peter1138: it's literally the first thing of c++ I learned in college lol
13:34:15 <aviationgamerx> audigex: alr thanks
14:17:14 <andythenorth> my GS prevents that problem
14:17:36 <andythenorth> not sure it does actually 😛
14:29:01 <peter1138> Hmm, maybe I should remove this badge configuration stuff
14:29:17 <peter1138> It's a bit "too many options"
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16:46:54 <peter1138> Builds at least/at last.
17:00:26 <peter1138> No idea what it failed on MSVC on 32 bit originally... maybe some integer promotion treating unsigned int and size_t the same and then use the messing up emplace_back.
17:13:29 <peter1138> Huh, I thought I'd caught all those :S
17:16:22 <andythenorth> my big git repo is getting slow 😛
17:17:12 <andythenorth> 2.5GB, for the on-disk size reported by the OS, then whatever the history is
17:17:43 <andythenorth> dunno if I should learn about git lfs or something
17:18:37 <andythenorth> I can no longer push to these repo 😛
17:19:30 <aviationgamerx> The .ini files, are they used somewhere in the code, or where they get used after here? And is there some guide on what the short variable names refer to?
17:20:05 <andythenorth> `git config --global http.postBuffer 157286400` seems to work
17:20:18 <andythenorth> proof of copy-paste commands from SO with no understanding
17:30:59 <talltyler> aviationgamerx: Yes, the .ini files determine the values of the setting. The actual setting is added in `settings_type.h`, and it's added to the GUI in `settings_gui.cpp`. Here's a PR that adds a setting, showing everything you need to touch.
17:31:58 <aviationgamerx> talltyler: oh nice thanks a lot
17:33:55 <talltyler> You can learn a lot by finding similar PRs 😄
17:36:30 <aviationgamerx> talltyler: that is a good idea, I have been almost crossing the jungle trying to find where variables go from start to end and connect the pieces together lol
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22:27:34 <Afdal> Great job on the improvements to ship pathfinding guide :)
22:27:53 <Afdal> I wonder if ships still stress a server out though?
22:27:58 <Afdal> less or even more than before?
22:28:16 <Afdal> since it's so much smarter...
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22:37:05 <_pruple> they work smarter, not harder, or something
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