IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2024-09-03
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00:13:55 <audigex> peter1138: True, pretty much never use the stock trains tbf
00:17:11 <goddess_ishtar> there's only a handful of trains
00:17:20 <goddess_ishtar> and they *still* share sprites
00:36:10 <emperorjake> audigex: That's one of the first things I noticed when playing this game 😅
00:36:36 <emperorjake> I think the aircraft are much more egregious, using the same sprite for narrowbody and widebody planes
00:37:59 <goddess_ishtar> the aircraft are instantly recognizable yeah
00:38:02 <goddess_ishtar> aren't there like
00:38:13 <goddess_ishtar> 2 sprites for the grand majority of jets?
00:38:39 <goddess_ishtar> emperorjake: tbh I think it's so long I've forgotten
00:38:50 <goddess_ishtar> but now I remember it bugging me quite a bit
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03:21:26 <_pruple> The two "four engine jets that aren't a 747" share sprites. Original graphics looks like a dc8, opengfx went with the rj100.
03:24:45 <_pruple> In TTO, which had more steam locos and the only physics stat was maximum speed, the gresley A3 and the bulleid Q1 were identical in both appearance and performance. 😉
03:51:26 <ahyangyi> Total: 1031 packages (582 upgrades, 2 downgrades, 158 new, 139 in new slots, 150 reinstalls, 74 uninstalls), Size of downloads: 8,157,189 KiB
03:51:26 <ahyangyi> Conflict: 119 blocks (all satisfied)
03:51:26 <ahyangyi> Ah, this is what you get for not maintaining your Gentoo for a few months... I'll let my PC build these 1031 packages and see what happens 😛
04:44:21 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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07:36:29 <_zephyris> audigex: I don't think so - LoRAs are a fine tuning layer, and it's hard to train it evenly. Training one term is much easier than training multiple.
07:48:22 <andythenorth> maybe I should actually learn how this stuff works 😛
07:50:16 <andythenorth> pff google leads me instantly to people using LoRas to generate virtual girlfriends
07:50:37 <andythenorth> technology adoption continues in the conventional way then
07:52:49 <andythenorth> hmm LoRas seems to have 3 meanings (as an acronym)
08:15:27 <ahyangyi> Training multiple specialized LoRAs and merging them afterwards as needed can be a way too.
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08:43:17 <_pruple> 4-dimensional cycling
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12:44:52 <_zephyris> andythenorth: Pixel art is my virtual girlfriend
12:46:06 <_zephyris> That's a LoRA trained on GWR 5700 images...
12:48:34 <peter1138> Is this "pixel art" any more though?
12:49:03 <_zephyris> Well... after I've drawn all over them it will be
12:50:01 <_zephyris> It's a useful tool, but still needs pixel pushing to polish
12:50:53 <peter1138> Such classism and albeism from me...
12:53:22 <peter1138> LordAro, people with TN/VA monitors be like "yes, both"
12:53:49 <LordAro> i'm kinda like that anyway
12:56:26 <LordAro> i would expect nothing less
13:03:56 <ahyangyi> Your boundary is at hue 175, bluer than 65% of the population. For you, turquoise is green.
13:04:07 <ahyangyi> Hey, off-by-one-error
13:05:33 <kuhnovic> Although the colors on my monitor changed quite a bit the moment I leaned back in my chair. Work needs to buy better monitors.
13:05:44 <andythenorth> I did it again, I often repeat these tests
13:06:52 <ahyangyi> The population distribution has changed by 9% between your two tests
13:07:40 <andythenorth> I don't look at the colour of the background, I look at the colour of 'is this blue' text in the middle
13:07:49 <andythenorth> the background affects the perception of that
13:08:01 <andythenorth> but then again it says 'blue' which anchors the choice possibly
13:08:33 <ahyangyi> "Is this Bleen or Grue?"
13:10:41 <andythenorth> classic philosophy of language question
13:10:49 <andythenorth> both linguistics and epistemology
13:11:17 <andythenorth> time dependent predicates
14:01:48 <audigex> ahyangyi: Yeah that makes no sense
14:02:14 <audigex> The difference between 174 and 176 is apparently 25% of the population too. Seems kinda pointless
14:08:48 <peter1138> Maybe you're early adopters and loads of people are doing it...
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14:32:31 <Artea> too late to share my latest setup ?
14:40:39 <Artea> gonna stop the break and work a little more on Alma
14:41:07 <Artea> I mean, coffee and cig first
14:41:23 <Artea> while think and look at my GOG Games
14:41:40 <Artea> I may fire up OpenTTD.GOG
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15:11:56 <ahyangyi> ahyangyi: 12 hours later, still 280 packages to go
15:12:15 <ahyangyi> My half-updated system still works though
15:15:37 <peter1138> I remember when Gentoo was all the rage in 2006...
15:16:18 <audigex> The Knoppix Live CD was revolutionary for me - letting me try Linux without removing Windows from the family PC
15:22:27 <Artea> f*** up VPS on 8 am Saturday and 1 am Sunday f**ed up after 4 formats
15:22:55 <Artea> in about 5 hours, already done everything, good thing of my Notepad++'s intel
15:23:13 <Artea> already had most from CentOS 7...
15:23:30 <Artea> there is somewhere OpenTTD 1.10.x or 1.11.x when I had on VPS
15:24:32 <Artea> right now is more "lets have the final config" to backup dnf list and other stuff
15:25:29 <Artea> I wanted to make ZDaemon (DooM) server already but still need setup accounts, which OpenTTD will be apart
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17:49:50 <goddess_ishtar> _zephyris: cute
17:50:04 <goddess_ishtar> is that for OpenGFX2 High Def?
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18:35:27 <peter1138> Hmm, how do I run the NML unit tests?
18:36:22 <peter1138> Oh, there's a Makefile, of course.
18:53:18 <_glx_> At least 3 targets in main Makefile (black, flake and regression)
18:56:33 <peter1138> How do I test a variable with a parameter?
18:57:43 <_glx_> There are some 60x already implemented
18:58:16 <_glx_> Often via custom function
19:01:24 <peter1138> Yes, I can see how they're implemented, it's the testing in a switch side I wasn't clear on.
19:02:53 <peter1138> Okay, so I need a callback function that'll let the parameter be a label (string) instead of a numeric.
19:06:32 <peter1138> (and it's not like the existing typelabels as it's a literal label, not a translation table lookup)
19:12:59 <_glx_> I don't think nml has something to convert LABEL to 32bit value
19:13:46 <peter1138> parse_string_to_dword maybe
19:14:13 <_glx_> ah yes used for classes probably
19:18:28 <_glx_> oh and cargo and tracks too
19:47:29 <peter1138> Cannot attach diesel onto steam.
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19:59:33 <andythenorth> did you do a thing?
20:03:48 <peter1138> Well, it's not persistent storage.
20:44:55 <soylent_cow[m]> i have another question, i see that in a dedicated server game, the server console is logged in as a client, and from gui it looks like a player with a crown. i am assuming that's the prive. is there a way to give a crown to a client who connects later?
20:47:02 <soylent_cow[m]> * i have another question, i see that in a dedicated server game, the server console is logged in as a client, and from gui it looks like a player with a crown. i am assuming that's the privs 🤴. is there a way to give a crown to a client who connects later?
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20:50:32 <peter1138> No, the crown just means "host".
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