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04:43:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/b2faa14ab5449a60f890e621ec335db402a39a73
04:43:36 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
06:30:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SoapGentoo updated pull request #12876: Codechange: fix for GCC 15 two-phase lookup https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12876
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06:49:05 <merni> Time for currency newgrfs?
06:50:23 <truebrain> talltyler: I am with you on that one. We have had some odd currency requests in the past, we denied most of those. The idea behind it was: there is custom currency, so let's stop adding more ๐Ÿ˜› But for those languages we have translations .. it doesn't hurt etc etc ๐Ÿ™‚
06:52:56 <goddess_ishtar> I, for one, love incurring scope creep by flooding the UI with even more extremely niche options and we should do it more
07:13:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] survey-summary[bot] pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/commit/1c59408085704fe9b5b2a77388706cae0ec91fe4
07:13:41 <DorpsGek> - Add: summary for week 29 of 2024 (by OpenTTD Survey)
07:15:46 <truebrain> Yeah, sarcasm. Very useful addition to the conversation, tnx. Owh, this is also sarcasm ๐Ÿ˜›
07:24:48 <goddess_ishtar> It's fun :p
07:24:54 <goddess_ishtar> And not entirely sarcastic
07:25:25 <goddess_ishtar> there is a part of me that just wants to board UI elements like a goblin
07:26:42 <ahyangyi> goddess_ishtar: +1
07:27:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SoapGentoo updated pull request #12876: Codechange: fix for GCC 15 two-phase lookup https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12876
07:27:34 <ahyangyi> Provide an overwhelming number of options, then hear people complaining, and add an overwhelming numberof parameters to provide different ways to "cut down the options" ๐Ÿ˜›
07:27:48 <goddess_ishtar> Mostly, I have absolutely no opinion on this, and I just default to sarcasm no matter what the actual context
07:28:57 <ahyangyi> I'm actually working on that "add lots of parameters to customize the very huge (station) list" part ๐Ÿ˜›
07:29:56 <johnfranklin> woo-hoo
08:00:01 <wensimehrp> merni: There already is one
08:00:12 <wensimehrp> Alternative currencies I think
08:01:44 <wensimehrp> ahyangyi: I'd rather hide the options ๐Ÿค 
08:02:38 <ahyangyi> bury options under automagic stations
08:03:02 <ahyangyi> You can build only 1 station, but it has 114514 different possible look-and-feels depending on the context
09:18:29 <wensimehrp> such random number
09:22:02 <peter1139> Maybe I need that option to download all NewGRFs ;p
09:27:20 <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1264876427325472870/image.png?ex=669f7778&is=669e25f8&hm=9b0f09f4f21bebda950c6137a593a57e9f86ab60f97ee5ab1936cab715ba5323&
09:27:20 <peter1138> Sorry SSD and Bananas.
09:37:27 <truebrain> Cloudflare / OCI can take it! NOTHING TO BE SORRY ABOUT! And your SSD .. pffff, it has to deal with it! ๐Ÿ™‚
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09:51:04 <peter1139> Not to mention by poor OpenTTD loading times :D
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09:56:29 <truebrain> You still haven't fixed that?
09:56:35 <truebrain> Cache that shit already! ๐Ÿ˜›
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09:59:19 <FLHerne> sorry
10:07:30 <peter1139> truebrain, easier to spend โ‚ฌ10k upgrading the computer ;-)
10:11:17 <johnfranklin> 10k euros?
10:11:29 <johnfranklin> Is it an Apple Studio?
10:15:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] bjornwarmedal opened pull request #12878: Add: [Script] ScriptEventCompanyRename https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12878
10:17:55 <peter1139> Isn't there a specific feature for leaderboards instead of story books?
10:18:20 <peter1139> Scriptable league tables.
10:18:26 <LordAro> i believe so
10:18:55 <LordAro> not that there's any particular reason why the above shouldn't be added
10:19:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #12878: Add: [Script] ScriptEventCompanyRename https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12878#issuecomment-2242607672
10:20:02 <peter1139> Other than "where do you stop"
10:20:34 <peter1139> And isn't there a string code that will just automatically use the current name? Not sure if storybook supports parameters...
10:21:19 <LordAro> we have all sorts of functions for getting/setting company manager names, which are completely pointless as far as an AI is concerned
10:28:31 <peter1139> Is an event type for company being renamed all that's needed? What if I the manager name is changed, or a town is renamed, or...
10:29:50 <peter1139> Sign text changed?
10:30:55 <LordAro> there are people that want GSes to be able to intercept commands, so this could be considered something similar
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10:32:51 <peter1139> Well, "know about" rather than intercept.
10:33:18 <LordAro> i said "similar" :p
10:35:12 <pickpacket> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12878
10:35:45 <pickpacket> Errh. I was going to ask something about that... Not sure what it was or why I posted before typing it :P
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11:08:47 <peter1139> "Why does this NewGRF without cargo translation table work correctly?"
11:09:14 <peter1139> "Oh shit, I'm testing with #12646 applied."
11:12:06 <andythenorth> โ€œOopsโ€
11:13:03 <peter1139> Although even then, some do work.
11:13:17 <peter1139> Not sure if that's deliberate or accidental.
11:23:19 <kuhnovic> IT decided it was time for a non-optional update to Windows 11...
11:24:14 <peter1139> Sorry to hear that.
11:26:06 <kuhnovic> I'm especially dreading the BIOS update that comes with it
11:26:31 <LordAro> those are not usually related updates
11:27:21 <kuhnovic> I know, but they get pushed as a package deal in this case
11:27:44 <kuhnovic> One co-worker's machine already got bricked hehe
11:34:31 <merni> ...is that normal
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11:44:47 <audigex> No, very rare
11:45:09 <audigex> And probably only gonna happen on fairly tinkered-with systems where youโ€™ve turned your install into an edge case in some way
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12:24:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] binraptor updated pull request #12877: Feature: add Ukrainian Hryvnia currency https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12877
12:44:48 <kuhnovic> My work pc survived the update
12:44:55 <kuhnovic> Now I actually need to do work
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12:52:42 <locosage> I have company rename event on citymania, using it to update db entry
12:53:54 <locosage> Also, problem with company strung codes is that they only work for companies that are currently in the game
12:55:13 <locosage> If you want leaderboard to include companies that closed you either need two ways of dieting the name or avoid string code
12:57:59 <locosage> Btw, using string for a name was not very possible before 14.0 and raw_string
13:13:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #12877: Add: Ukrainian Hryvnia currency https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12877#pullrequestreview-2191545445
13:30:57 <peter1139> Hmm, guess I need to adjust my bike-fit :S
13:31:11 <peter1139> Fix one thing, make something else worse...
13:33:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] J0anJosep commented on pull request #12868: Codechange: Simplify IsCompanyBuildableVehicleType. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12868#issuecomment-2242975956
13:33:53 <LordAro> peter1139: oh no
13:42:09 <peter1139> Lower back pain. Used to happen when I was skinny, but I'm not skinny at the moment.
13:42:16 <LordAro> :(
13:50:56 <andythenorth> See an osteo
13:51:11 <andythenorth> Good ones are magic
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14:31:24 <pickpacket> So is friendship
14:47:38 <kuhnovic> I don't see how it helps with back pain though
14:51:25 <pickpacket> Probably depends on the friends. And the back
14:51:31 <pickpacket> Maybe even the pain
14:53:37 <kuhnovic> Friends that are a pain in the ass might lead to a pain in the back as well. Especially if they are the back stabbing types.
14:53:47 <kuhnovic> But then you really need new friends
14:59:10 <pickpacket> At least when you have friends like that you don't need enemies
15:00:50 <goddess_ishtar> optimise your relationships for minimum members
15:24:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ivpravdin updated pull request #12873: Fix 12860, 2bada59: Timetable does not show vehicles as early https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12873
15:26:23 <pickpacket> goddess_ishtar: yup! If you find yourself having too many you'll have to dismember some
15:38:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ivpravdin updated pull request #12873: Fix #12860, 2bada59: Timetable does not show vehicles as early https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12873
15:38:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ivpravdin updated pull request #12873: Fix #12860, 2bada59: Timetable does not show vehicles as early https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12873
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16:07:03 <truebrain> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1264977018890616833/image.png?ex=669fd527&is=669e83a7&hm=70436562b0a517dd7b3d47b23af5119565e2fd1a51f81f4fb8cd72102c6ff0ac&
16:07:03 <truebrain> at least I know it was BaNaNaS causing the traffic ๐Ÿ˜„
16:07:07 <truebrain> (this is AWS)
16:07:19 <truebrain> the traffic that remains is much less spiky ๐Ÿ˜›
16:45:57 <_glx_> and you have the same info from oci ?
17:20:38 <peter1139> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=91832
17:20:50 <peter1139> ^ We ended up making the obsolete block signals too easily accessible, really.
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17:54:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #12873: Fix #12860, 2bada59: Timetable does not show vehicles as early https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12873#pullrequestreview-2192196062
18:02:09 <andythenorth> peter1139: Lot of pitchforks at the time though
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18:13:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #12876: Codechange: fix for GCC 15 two-phase lookup https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12876#pullrequestreview-2192240365
18:13:43 <talltyler> I remember a Reddit post that was just a screenshot of the commit on GitHub entitled โ€œFuck you 2talltylerโ€ ๐Ÿ™‚
18:13:56 <talltyler> About as pitchforky as it gets
18:14:32 <andythenorth> โ€œSounds personalโ€
18:14:35 <andythenorth> ๐Ÿ˜›
18:14:56 <andythenorth> I apologise on behalf of decent humans
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18:35:53 * peter1139 porting some Python code to C++.
18:36:41 <peter1139> [2024-07-22 19:34:28] dbg: [grf:0] [43411222-iron_horse_3_trains-3.21.0.tar/iron_horse_3_trains-3.21.0/iron-horse.grf:439802] Major: 1, Baseset: 0
18:36:44 <peter1139> [2024-07-22 19:34:28] dbg: [grf:0] [43411222-iron_horse_3_trains-3.21.0.tar/iron_horse_3_trains-3.21.0/iron-horse.grf:439802] Features 000: 6494
18:36:47 <peter1139> [2024-07-22 19:34:28] dbg: [grf:0] [43411222-iron_horse_3_trains-3.21.0.tar/iron_horse_3_trains-3.21.0/iron-horse.grf:439802] Features 008: 118
18:36:51 <peter1139> Oof, 6494 engines :D
18:38:02 <andythenorth> Youโ€™ve ported Horse to c++ ๐Ÿ˜›
18:38:06 <andythenorth> Insanity
18:38:13 <peter1139> Am I reading it correctly that the NewGRF classifier doesn't really treat Object NewGRFs as a thing...
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18:39:16 <andythenorth> peter1139: Now filter out variants ๐Ÿ™‚
18:41:31 <peter1139> Ah, it does, but they're referred to as "baseset" instead of "major" features.
18:42:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #12876: Codefix: Compilation with GCC 15 due to missing CRTP usage https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12876
18:55:38 <peter1139> After all this, it's kinda pointless. Oh well.
18:56:05 <peter1139> Downloading (and caching) the tags from bananas would be more useful.
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20:15:17 <peter1139> Well.
20:51:11 <_glx_> oh indeed the filters from website are usable ingame
20:51:30 <_glx_> for content download
21:35:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #12868: Codechange: Simplify IsCompanyBuildableVehicleType. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12868#pullrequestreview-2192592302
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