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01:28:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zacc commented on discussion #12384: Road transport - pathfinder doesn't see traffic on the roads, which intensifies existing traffic jams https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12384
01:32:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zacc commented on discussion #12384: Road transport - pathfinder doesn't see traffic on the roads, which intensifies existing traffic jams https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12384
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03:23:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Oberdorfer0 commented on issue #12601: [Crash]: Out of Memory https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12601
04:36:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #12598: Codechange: use vector instead of manual memory management for decompressing text files https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12598
04:41:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/96d82b4363eee042cb17d8deceebf632c2d802fa
04:41:14 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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05:44:02 <peter1138> Hm
05:46:09 <LordAro> mH
05:46:22 <peter1138> Morning.
05:57:37 <peter1138> Damn these defaults having no spec :S
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06:26:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12595: Feature: Add more filtering and favourites to build object/station/waypoint/roadstop windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12595
06:27:14 <andythenorth> Was it lunch?
06:34:40 <peter1138> Maybe.
06:35:13 <peter1138> I accidentally ate breakfast cereal, so that's me done for.
06:41:23 <andythenorth> I had coffee
06:41:28 <andythenorth> And antacids
06:42:37 <peter1138> I have coffee,and ibuprofen gel.
06:42:53 <reldred> I've got a jug of water and cold feet
06:43:04 <reldred> I'm at home though why aren't I wearing ugg boots hmmmmm
06:43:10 <peter1138> Take your feet out of the water, silly!
06:48:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12595: Feature: Add more filtering and favourites to build object/station/waypoint/roadstop windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12595#issuecomment-2088057158
06:57:54 <kuhnovic> Could it be that my recent ship pf fix wasn't backported? I didn't see it in the list. Not behind a pc, can't check properly
07:03:08 <kuhnovic> Nevermind, it is backported
07:03:45 <peter1138> If it was marked backported, then yes.
07:17:52 * peter1138 ponders
07:19:23 <_glx_> It was in previous batch IIRC
07:31:23 <kuhnovic> Yes, I found your backport commit glx. That one contained it.
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08:20:36 <peter1138> It's ridiculous that I can't drag & drop files from a compressed archive window to a directory window because one is gtk3 and the other is gtk4...
08:23:20 <Wolf01> Heh, Linux still plagued by these problems?
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08:26:49 <peter1138> Just Gnome dumbing down.
08:29:25 <peter1138> Drag and drop... requires a virtual file system because an API call changed...
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09:46:10 <reldred> God the gnome dev team angered me with the direction they took. I used to lurk the irc during the 2.x days in the lead up to 3.x. Tried to chat to someone about a reproducible bug. Got told I was basically on drugs. Later on got vindicated, and found out that dev was from that group that didn't even use Linux and worked entirely in MacOS...
09:46:51 <reldred> I think that was the Ximian crowd that got swallowed up by Novell
10:17:09 <andythenorth> how did a Gnome dev team macOS what now?
10:17:17 * andythenorth more coffee needed?
10:17:33 <peter1138> GTK 2 was the last sane version, I think.
10:17:42 <peter1138> 3 & 4 have some nicer bits, but it's all bollocksed.
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10:18:58 <porrumentzio_80560> Hi all, and sorry for coming up with another topic. I'm the one who opened the issue in GitHub about the Basque translation and yesterday I translated a lot of it locally (because I needed to search/replace). Then, when I was going to upload the translation to the WebTranslator (following this section of the manual: https://translator.openttd.org/static/docs/usage.html#upload-a-language) I didn't
10:18:58 <porrumentzio_80560> manage to do so. Is that option to upload a file no longer there?
10:19:49 <reldred> andythenorth: yeah there was a bit of a fiasco a while back, bunch of devs making unpopular choices and unpopular assumptions about what users wanted and then it came out in the wash they weren't even eating their own dogfood
10:20:12 <andythenorth> "devs don't play" right? 😛
10:20:20 <reldred> something like that 😛
10:24:38 <peter1138> Well
10:40:50 <pickpacket> I’m on year 2120 on my longplay map. Sometimes tedious but mostly fun
10:41:31 <frosch123> hmm, a sparse clone of openttd's `src/lang` is only 5 MiB of `.git`. funniy considering the checkout is 28 MiB
10:52:34 <peter1138> Hmm, should text filters remain when you close/open a window.
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10:55:53 <reldred> I’d generally prefer if they didn’t
10:56:03 <peter1138> Good because they don't.
10:56:34 <peter1138> There's some kinda of complex infrastructure to enable it to do so. But it's pretty much redundant because nothing does.
10:58:30 <frosch123> cursor up/down for filter history :p
10:59:04 <peter1138> Not that complex, but it could be nice, certainly.
11:01:12 <truebrain> frosch123: is nile-data not important enough? 😛
11:01:40 <truebrain> https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/blob/main/.dorpsgek.yml as template
11:02:15 <truebrain> frosch123: Commmppprrrreeeesssssiiiioooonnnnnnn 😄
11:04:00 <frosch123> truebrain: i expect only automatic pushes there, so no notifications
11:04:27 <frosch123> but why does wiki-data have it...
11:05:16 <frosch123> i do not remember seeing wiki edits posted here
11:07:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 merged pull request #15: chore: enable DorpsGek notifications https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/15
11:07:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/commit/f22f5570217dca6d6cf24b64f839e24075213cd8
11:07:37 <DorpsGek> - chore: enable DorpsGek notifications (#15) (by frosch123)
11:07:51 <frosch123> pff, wrong :p
11:08:29 <truebrain> frosch123: Because it doesn't have 'push' in the list
11:09:06 <truebrain> Which version did you copy
11:09:43 <truebrain> Use this one for the other repos please
11:10:51 <frosch123> yeah, looks like i did not understand the semantics of that config
11:16:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 opened pull request #16: chore: update DorpsGek configuration https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/16
11:19:02 <squirejames> reldred: If they only used MacOS, there is the answer to their weird superiority complex
11:20:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12602: Codechange: Use Recv/Send_bytes for md5sum. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12602
11:27:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] TrueBrain approved pull request #16: chore: update DorpsGek configuration https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/16#pullrequestreview-2033477120
11:32:34 <johnfranklin> Time to purchase Minecraft?
11:32:34 <johnfranklin> Ten years ago, when I was a child, I used to be obsessed in Minecraft, but pirated version...
11:38:23 <peter1138> It's way past its hey-day.
11:46:21 <reldred> it can be fun with mods
11:46:33 <reldred> I should get my server going again
11:46:47 <reldred> I was particulary fond of the Create mod
11:55:45 <FLHerne> I quite like it without mods, except maybe visual
11:56:48 <FLHerne> heavily-modded Minecraft is fun too, but it can turn into basically first-person Factorio
11:57:19 <FLHerne> admittedly haven't played much in the last couple of years, no time for it
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12:11:22 <talltyler> I’ve been playing Create Above and Beyond. To be honest, I prefer plain Create but the trading is nice and my partner likes a bit more structure in the form of goals.
12:18:51 <talltyler> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1235203784670445628/metro.png?ex=663384ab&is=6632332b&hm=0efa94157cc06ba8b13a00440457a949c4c4929c9db5eaeb17438a512567581c&
12:18:51 <talltyler> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1235203785023033446/metro2.png?ex=663384ab&is=6632332b&hm=a25c22d771d26cb52cdb34afd48ddb553b20af87f5ab7c9bc9f81c7fdf96d666&
12:18:51 <talltyler> andythenorth: Am I doing metro locomotives properly? 😄
12:19:14 <talltyler> I love the new subsurface metros ❤️
12:28:26 <johnfranklin> Someone says "Minecraft is very autism"... however, it should be much less autism than openttd, since way larger player base, etc
12:29:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12602: Codechange: Use Recv/Send_bytes for md5sum. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12602#pullrequestreview-2033532900
13:24:20 <andythenorth> talltyler: define 'properly'? 🙂
13:24:36 <andythenorth> johnfranklin: define 'autism' 🙂
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13:35:09 <audigex> andythenorth: Trains good people bad
13:36:08 <andythenorth> ah the 1985 version of the test
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13:50:49 <audigex> I'm a traditionalist
13:50:56 <audigex> Traditionautist?
13:58:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 merged pull request #16: chore: update DorpsGek configuration https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/16
13:58:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] frosch123 merged pull request #4: chore: enable DorpsGek notifications https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/4
13:58:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile] frosch123 merged pull request #6: chore: enable DorpsGek notifications https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile/pull/6
13:59:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-data] frosch123 merged pull request #1: chore: enable DorpsGek notifications https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-data/pull/1
13:59:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-tools] frosch123 merged pull request #6: chore: enable DorpsGek notifications https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-tools/pull/6
14:04:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] frosch123 opened pull request #5: feat: project configuration specifies location of lang files in repository https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/5
14:05:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] frosch123 opened pull request #6: feat: language configuration specifies the stem for lang file names https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/6
14:13:13 <peter1138> Different commit styles over there then.
14:17:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] TrueBrain approved pull request #6: feat: language configuration specifies the stem for lang file names https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/6#pullrequestreview-2033709866
14:17:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] TrueBrain commented on pull request #6: feat: language configuration specifies the stem for lang file names https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/6#issuecomment-2088530685
14:18:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] TrueBrain approved pull request #5: feat: project configuration specifies location of lang files in repository https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/5#pullrequestreview-2033711434
14:22:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] frosch123 commented on pull request #6: feat: language configuration specifies the stem for lang file names https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/6#issuecomment-2088536521
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16:27:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jayaddison opened pull request #12603: Doc: README.md: add Apache 2.0 licensing info for CheckAtomic.cmake https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12603
16:33:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12604: Codechange: Use vector/span when loading wagon overrides. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12604
16:39:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12604: Codechange: Use vector/span when loading wagon overrides. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12604#pullrequestreview-2033943786
16:52:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 opened pull request #17: refactor: allow other Rust applications to use Dialect and its string serdes https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/17
16:55:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 updated pull request #17: refactor: allow other Rust applications to use Dialect and its string serdes https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/17
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16:59:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 updated pull request #17: refactor: allow other Rust applications to use Dialect and its string serdes https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/17
17:23:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12604: Codechange: Use vector/span when loading wagon overrides. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12604
17:55:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12602: Codechange: Use Recv/Send_bytes for md5sum. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12602
18:13:48 <peter1138> How does Iron Horse do loaded/loading variations?
18:13:55 <peter1138> Or does it just... not?
18:14:44 <andythenorth> https://github.com/andythenorth/iron-horse/blob/main/src/templates/procedures_visible_cargo.pynml
18:15:05 <peter1138> Oh christ.
18:15:12 <andythenorth> can't remember why loaded/loading isn't used, there was a legitimate reason at the time
18:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause> because the default implementation doesn't distinguish 99% and 100%, probably
18:17:19 <peter1138> It's frightening that everything is moved to variables these days 😦
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18:24:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12605: Codechange: Use range-for when loading NewGRF deterministic sprite groups. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12605
18:30:16 <_jgr_> peter1138: It's much easier to use and understand, it doesn't seem like a bad thing to me
18:32:29 <peter1138> We need a JIT compiler with all the extra work :p
18:42:27 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: it was something like that
18:44:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12605: Codechange: Use range-for when loading NewGRF deterministic sprite groups. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12605#pullrequestreview-2034207444
18:49:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] TrueBrain approved pull request #17: refactor: allow other Rust applications to use Dialect and its string serdes https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/17#pullrequestreview-2034220379
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18:59:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12605: Codechange: Use range-for when loading NewGRF deterministic sprite groups. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12605
19:18:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12606: Codechange: Use vector for industry random sounds. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12606
19:19:55 <peter1138> Oh
19:20:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12606: Codechange: Use vector for industry random sounds. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12606
19:37:02 <audigex> _jgr_: I think the main risk is that over time we lose the knowledge of how it works "behind the scenes" so to speak
19:37:02 <audigex> But at the same time it makes newGRF development FAR more accessible, and having more people in the space has to be a good thing. Before NML you had to wait until one of the handful of GRF developers had the time and inclination to code your project
19:37:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12606: Codechange: Use vector for industry random sounds. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12606#pullrequestreview-2034317996
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19:50:57 <gerrard_> Hi. Is it OK to ask a question about compiling the source here?
19:52:55 <talltyler> Ask away!
19:54:33 <gerrard_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1235318463405494282/image.png?ex=6633ef78&is=66329df8&hm=02cebc73ad08d29812f1dc6fe55d7adb99d0287a99b178c323ddbd6c89888116&
19:54:33 <gerrard_> I'm trying to compile an older custom version (13.1) and can't seem to get it to find the zlib etc. libraries. This is my CMakeSettings.json after installing the packages using vcpkg.
19:55:00 <gerrard_> I am using Visual Studio 2022 by the way.
19:55:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12606: Codechange: Use vector for industry random sounds. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12606
19:55:46 <peter1138> I think `x64-windows` should be `x64-windows-static`
19:56:51 <gerrard_> Yep, that fixed it! This was after a couple of hours Googling various things.
19:57:51 <gerrard_> I did find an answer that said to add the variables, but I think I had originally put it outside the "configuration" part which is why it didn't work then.
20:00:28 <gerrard_> All good now, thanks. No longer get the zlib debug error in the background.
20:01:48 <peter1138> Nice!
20:04:17 <_glx_> 13.1 doesn't have manifest mode, so you have to make sure both openttd and vcpkg install use the same triplet
20:05:00 <_glx_> with 14 vcpkg deps are auto built by cmake
20:12:23 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1235322953420374057/20200908port031-08165820.png?ex=6633f3a7&is=6632a227&hm=defe674afbd23c001692558377c323309d45f5acb802c6b7ded3057dd83be5b7&
20:12:23 <andythenorth> is this dock flat?
20:12:36 <andythenorth> that crane is out of scale to the truck I think
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20:40:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #12542: Change: [Linkgraph] Improve distance scaling algorithm in demand scaler https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12542
21:03:39 <kamnet> andythenorth: Two ships not merged together at the dock? What witchcraft is this??
21:08:25 <peter1138> It's illegal.
21:10:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #12596: Fix 2d27e8e: Update numpad keycodes for SDL2, making it usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12596
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21:11:53 <_glx_> oups it was a codefix
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21:15:11 <peter1138> It's a fix, no?
21:16:24 <peter1138> Yeah, they will all be mapped incorrectly until this fix.
21:17:01 <peter1138> I think that's worthy of a backport?
21:21:24 <truebrain> sounds like it
21:24:25 <andythenorth> is bedtime?
21:29:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607
21:31:38 <peter1138> Ah phew, I did change airport specs from memcpy to std::copy a while ago 🙂
21:58:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12608: Codechange: Ensure SDLK mappings stay in the expected order. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12608
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22:26:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607
22:52:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607
22:57:07 <talltyler> Peter, there’s one outstanding review item on your picker PR and then I could be talked into a YOLO approval. 🙂
22:57:28 <talltyler> You have a track record of fixing your own bugs 🙂
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23:21:26 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a path to disaster
23:37:32 <talltyler> I mean, I’ve read the whole thing but the GUI diffs are enormous and I certainly could have missed things 🙂
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