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00:14:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #11451: Codechange: Reword rail/road type label constants https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11451

00:23:12  <peter1138> Just sitting in my chair wishing it would recline a bit more...

00:58:51  <johnfranklin> wensimehrp: Well, I think *inm* is not popular in Western contexts...

01:11:42  <wensimehrp> johnfranklin: Popular in Zhejiang, the famous breakfast brand.

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07:57:24  <peter1138> Well

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08:17:27  <pickpacket> Master Hellish built a gigantic city in 100 years: https://youtu.be/sRT1jgeIpCk?si=KlQkJZ0G5Z10DD_r

08:18:19  <pickpacket> What I don't understand about that is that the town growth agent never built a new road anywhere. For me it keeps adding roads where none are needed, and when I remove them it often adds them again later

08:20:10  <bungus> you can prevent the town growth generator from making new roads by trimming the extra junctions so they are all through streets

08:21:10  <bungus> his road in the video was one giant road with only turns and no intersections in it, its all one continuous piece of road

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08:33:12  <locosage> pickpacket: he just have auto-roads off in settings

08:33:24  <locosage> growing towns with auto-roads is a royal pita

08:33:37  <pickpacket> locosage: ohhhh. Didn't even occur to me

08:35:08  <pickpacket> bungus: can you give an example? Not sure I understand what you mean

08:35:44  <locosage> bungus: it can build new intersections, the only way to combat it is to make one-way roads or smth like that

08:44:18  <bungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1172094302772527145/image.png?ex=655f10e2&is=654c9be2&hm=32e6b592a4bcb14de906a54fa72c5a33376f225ada9d8000d48cd1c336a21bfd&

08:44:18  <bungus> pickpacket: top is gonna give you a lot less stray roads then the bottom

08:44:46  <bungus> locosage: yeah it still can it just seems like its a lot less likely too in my experience

09:04:01  <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1172099262759317514/image.png?ex=655f1580&is=654ca080&hm=611f3d1525e05da175b668dfcafb963dd1c83b62724b0591076db3bebb630835&

09:04:38  <peter1138> String system has me stumped... that's supposed to say "original_windows 1 corrupted file"

09:15:43  <peter1138> Oh it's becuase I copy & pasted the wrong thing, of course.

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09:36:21  <pickpacket> bungus: when I build straight roads the game keeps adding the type of stubs you have at the bottom one

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10:03:20  <peter1138> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/11/08/8gb-ram-m3-macbook-pro-like-16-gb-pc/

10:03:24  <peter1138> lol

10:46:17  <pickpacket> lol

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11:54:13  <peter1138>  488 changed files

11:54:13  <peter1138> with

11:54:13  <peter1138> 8939 additions

11:54:13  <peter1138> and

11:54:15  <peter1138> 17076 deletions

11:54:27  <peter1138> Oof, one: big commit, two: sorry about the line feeds :/

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12:32:18  <peter1138> o_O

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12:50:11  <peter1138> Who pressed the wrong button?

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12:55:48  <dwfreed> peter1138: nobody, that was intentional

12:56:03  <dwfreed> I have to replace the system that reticulum runs on

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13:25:32  <peter1138> Hmm, bootstrap is somewhat a mystery. It doesn't seem to have anything to choose which base graphics set it's going to download.

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16:30:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452

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17:35:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#issuecomment-1804269012

17:41:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison commented on pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#issuecomment-1804276942

17:42:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison updated pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452

17:49:12  <LordAro> zero length array is a bit strange..

18:17:31  <peter1138> Well

18:17:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#pullrequestreview-1723224277

18:17:47  <peter1138> It is valid, unlike ...[0]

18:17:48  <LordAro> thought i'd formalise it

18:19:20  <peter1138> According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24152435/is-there-a-reason-for-zero-sized-stdarray-in-c11

18:24:55  <peter1138> Cool, RouterOS v7.12 now shows a QR-code for wireguard. That'll make it easier to set up.

18:37:41  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/92816ac96b69b5e8027ee0da01ad988e1f968a4a

18:37:43  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

18:57:22  <peter1138> Wet and windy again :(

18:57:31  <peter1138> Apparently I became a fair-weather cyclist.

19:00:46  <LordAro> mm

19:25:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11453: Codechange: Apply some code-style fixes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11453

19:25:56  <peter1138> Forecast wasn't even going to rain... but it is.

19:27:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #11453: Codechange: Apply some code-style fixes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11453#pullrequestreview-1723341934

19:37:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#pullrequestreview-1723356310

19:43:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452

19:56:39  <peter1138> Well, less static routes at home now. Because everyone needs OSPF...

20:04:11  <_glx_> peter1138: Bootstrap downloads the first returned result (and content server is hardcoded to put opengfx as first result IIRC)

20:08:41  <peter1138> Yeah, it works because it immediately closes a window handling the content listing and so it just implicitly ignores the rest of the results...

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20:15:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11453: Codechange: Apply some code-style fixes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11453

20:54:18  <peter1138> Hmm, when should you use std::string_view vs std::string?

20:57:21  <jfs> std::string when you need to own the data, std::string_view when you need a temporary copy for reading

20:58:27  <jfs> if you'd pass a const std::string & to a function you may as well pass a string_view

20:59:06  <_jgr_> std::string is always null-terminated, but string_view doesn't have to be, that can be a bit of a gotcha

20:59:13  <_jgr_> string_view is essentially a span

20:59:38  <jfs> yeah, pointer and length to a buffer you don't know how far extends on either side

21:04:05  <peter1138> Also, what is this... StringReader(data, file.generic_string().c_str(), master, translation)

21:04:47  <peter1138> file is a std::string, as is the parameter)

21:09:25  <Rubidium> maybe StringReader's second parameter was char* before, and then it was changed afterwards... and nothing mentioned that doing std::string.c_str() isn't very useful when passing to a std::string&

21:10:15  <peter1138> Ah so it was just missed, rather than doing something I don't understand :)

21:13:56  <Rubidium> it's at least a hypothesis, otherwise I would've expected a comment around it why it's needed

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21:47:52  <peter1138> Hmm

22:18:19  <peter1138> Ah, that's a shame, passing nullptr to a string_view is UB.

22:24:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11454: Codechange: Redundant use of char * and c_str(). https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11454

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23:52:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11454: Codechange: Redundant use of char * and c_str(). https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11454#pullrequestreview-1723700438

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