IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2023-11-09
            
00:14:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #11451: Codechange: Reword rail/road type label constants https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11451
00:23:12 <peter1138> Just sitting in my chair wishing it would recline a bit more...
00:58:51 <johnfranklin> wensimehrp: Well, I think *inm* is not popular in Western contexts...
01:11:42 <wensimehrp> johnfranklin: Popular in Zhejiang, the famous breakfast brand.
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07:57:24 <peter1138> Well
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08:17:27 <pickpacket> Master Hellish built a gigantic city in 100 years: https://youtu.be/sRT1jgeIpCk?si=KlQkJZ0G5Z10DD_r
08:18:19 <pickpacket> What I don't understand about that is that the town growth agent never built a new road anywhere. For me it keeps adding roads where none are needed, and when I remove them it often adds them again later
08:20:10 <bungus> you can prevent the town growth generator from making new roads by trimming the extra junctions so they are all through streets
08:21:10 <bungus> his road in the video was one giant road with only turns and no intersections in it, its all one continuous piece of road
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08:33:12 <locosage> pickpacket: he just have auto-roads off in settings
08:33:24 <locosage> growing towns with auto-roads is a royal pita
08:33:37 <pickpacket> locosage: ohhhh. Didn't even occur to me
08:35:08 <pickpacket> bungus: can you give an example? Not sure I understand what you mean
08:35:44 <locosage> bungus: it can build new intersections, the only way to combat it is to make one-way roads or smth like that
08:44:18 <bungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1172094302772527145/image.png?ex=655f10e2&is=654c9be2&hm=32e6b592a4bcb14de906a54fa72c5a33376f225ada9d8000d48cd1c336a21bfd&
08:44:18 <bungus> pickpacket: top is gonna give you a lot less stray roads then the bottom
08:44:46 <bungus> locosage: yeah it still can it just seems like its a lot less likely too in my experience
09:04:01 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1172099262759317514/image.png?ex=655f1580&is=654ca080&hm=611f3d1525e05da175b668dfcafb963dd1c83b62724b0591076db3bebb630835&
09:04:38 <peter1138> String system has me stumped... that's supposed to say "original_windows 1 corrupted file"
09:15:43 <peter1138> Oh it's becuase I copy & pasted the wrong thing, of course.
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09:36:21 <pickpacket> bungus: when I build straight roads the game keeps adding the type of stubs you have at the bottom one
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10:03:20 <peter1138> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/11/08/8gb-ram-m3-macbook-pro-like-16-gb-pc/
10:03:24 <peter1138> lol
10:46:17 <pickpacket> lol
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11:54:13 <peter1138> 488 changed files
11:54:13 <peter1138> with
11:54:13 <peter1138> 8939 additions
11:54:13 <peter1138> and
11:54:15 <peter1138> 17076 deletions
11:54:27 <peter1138> Oof, one: big commit, two: sorry about the line feeds :/
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12:32:18 <peter1138> o_O
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12:50:11 <peter1138> Who pressed the wrong button?
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12:55:48 <dwfreed> peter1138: nobody, that was intentional
12:56:03 <dwfreed> I have to replace the system that reticulum runs on
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13:25:32 <peter1138> Hmm, bootstrap is somewhat a mystery. It doesn't seem to have anything to choose which base graphics set it's going to download.
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16:30:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452
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17:35:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#issuecomment-1804269012
17:41:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison commented on pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#issuecomment-1804276942
17:42:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison updated pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452
17:49:12 <LordAro> zero length array is a bit strange..
18:17:31 <peter1138> Well
18:17:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#pullrequestreview-1723224277
18:17:47 <peter1138> It is valid, unlike ...[0]
18:17:48 <LordAro> thought i'd formalise it
18:19:20 <peter1138> According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24152435/is-there-a-reason-for-zero-sized-stdarray-in-c11
18:24:55 <peter1138> Cool, RouterOS v7.12 now shows a QR-code for wireguard. That'll make it easier to set up.
18:37:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/92816ac96b69b5e8027ee0da01ad988e1f968a4a
18:37:43 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
18:57:22 <peter1138> Wet and windy again :(
18:57:31 <peter1138> Apparently I became a fair-weather cyclist.
19:00:46 <LordAro> mm
19:25:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11453: Codechange: Apply some code-style fixes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11453
19:25:56 <peter1138> Forecast wasn't even going to rain... but it is.
19:27:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #11453: Codechange: Apply some code-style fixes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11453#pullrequestreview-1723341934
19:37:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452#pullrequestreview-1723356310
19:43:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11452: Codechange: Replace AllocatedStringParameters with std::array based type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11452
19:56:39 <peter1138> Well, less static routes at home now. Because everyone needs OSPF...
20:04:11 <_glx_> peter1138: Bootstrap downloads the first returned result (and content server is hardcoded to put opengfx as first result IIRC)
20:08:41 <peter1138> Yeah, it works because it immediately closes a window handling the content listing and so it just implicitly ignores the rest of the results...
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20:15:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11453: Codechange: Apply some code-style fixes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11453
20:54:18 <peter1138> Hmm, when should you use std::string_view vs std::string?
20:57:21 <jfs> std::string when you need to own the data, std::string_view when you need a temporary copy for reading
20:58:27 <jfs> if you'd pass a const std::string & to a function you may as well pass a string_view
20:59:06 <_jgr_> std::string is always null-terminated, but string_view doesn't have to be, that can be a bit of a gotcha
20:59:13 <_jgr_> string_view is essentially a span
20:59:38 <jfs> yeah, pointer and length to a buffer you don't know how far extends on either side
21:04:05 <peter1138> Also, what is this... StringReader(data, file.generic_string().c_str(), master, translation)
21:04:47 <peter1138> file is a std::string, as is the parameter)
21:09:25 <Rubidium> maybe StringReader's second parameter was char* before, and then it was changed afterwards... and nothing mentioned that doing std::string.c_str() isn't very useful when passing to a std::string&
21:10:15 <peter1138> Ah so it was just missed, rather than doing something I don't understand :)
21:13:56 <Rubidium> it's at least a hypothesis, otherwise I would've expected a comment around it why it's needed
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21:47:52 <peter1138> Hmm
22:18:19 <peter1138> Ah, that's a shame, passing nullptr to a string_view is UB.
22:24:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11454: Codechange: Redundant use of char * and c_str(). https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11454
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23:52:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11454: Codechange: Redundant use of char * and c_str(). https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11454#pullrequestreview-1723700438