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02:45:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kevinfields777 started discussion #11178: Add option to hold open submenu when clicked on https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/11178



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03:12:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on discussion #11178: Add option to hold open submenu when clicked on https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/11178



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05:00:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #11179: [Bug]: Max competitors is ignored when AI interval is zero https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11179



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05:43:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #11180: [Bug]: When an aircraft crashes, in very rare cases the news points to the crash occuring near tile 0. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11180



05:51:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #11181: [Crash]: in string handling (possibly in AI/GS debug window) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11181



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09:30:10  <truebrain> okay, had to tune how the wiki is being cached a bit, as cloudflare did something I did not expect. But slowly the cache now seems to fill up nicely \o/ 😄



09:39:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kevinfields777 commented on discussion #11178: Add option to hold open submenu when clicked on https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/11178



09:40:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kevinfields777 commented on discussion #11178: Add option to hold open submenu when clicked on https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/11178



10:05:31  <LordAro> truebrain: what sort of savings are we looking at with this?



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10:10:57  <truebrain> about 10 dollars or so a month



10:11:21  <Eddi|zuHause> out of what budget?



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10:15:39  <truebrain> it is just so funny, how much price difference there is between AWS and Cloudflare .. so much I did ponder about porting TrueWiki to something that can run on Cloudflare 😛



10:17:39  <truebrain> the main obstacle there is that some wiki pages take a few seconds (yes, seconds) to render



10:17:58  <truebrain> mediawiki is such an inefficient "language" 😦



10:19:41  <LordAro> :<



10:21:54  <truebrain> (and for those that wonder, although savings is nice, it is not my primary goal; toying with new techniques is 😄 )



10:22:20  <LordAro> i did wonder how that "low maintenance" claim was holding up :p



10:22:44  <truebrain> well, Cloudflare does that for me, so that still holds up, ironically 🙂



10:22:47  <LordAro> :)



10:23:00  <truebrain> even dependency updates etc are done for us



10:23:10  <truebrain> so it requires less maintainance! 😛



10:23:15  <LordAro> i've been looking into the viability of proxmox docker set up



10:23:19  <truebrain> mostly, I am exploring how we could do cloud saves



10:23:21  <LordAro> or possibly truenas



10:23:28  <LordAro> or possibly both



10:23:36  <truebrain> TrueNAS is nice, for home-use



10:24:19  <truebrain> have been using it for a few months now; no complaints what so ever



10:24:34  <truebrain> the only "issue" I have is with TrueCharts (an unrelated projects that gives quick-to-install charts for TrueNAS)



10:24:39  <truebrain> they just have the worst update policy ever



10:24:48  <truebrain> basically: just delete and reinstall your application (and you lose all your data)



10:24:54  <truebrain> instead of having a proper path to upgrade



10:25:00  <LordAro> there's also the "enterprise grade" stuff: https://www.ixsystems.com/



10:25:05  <LordAro> oh lovely



10:25:40  <truebrain> but you can't blame a bad community on TrueNAS, so TrueNAS is nice 🙂



10:26:05  <LordAro> i was thinking dual proxmox docker hosts + truenas filestore for all the persistent stuff



10:26:17  <LordAro> but as i've previously mentioned, i'm kinda out of my depth here



10:26:25  <LordAro> probably worth just sending both of them an email saying "what do you think?"



10:26:42  <truebrain> if it is for business, that is always a good idea 🙂



10:26:49  <Eddi|zuHause> cloud saves sound like an annoying project. authentication, monitoring, GDPR, ...



10:26:56  <truebrain> now lunch time! Me hungry ... and I don't have food ... guess I should get some 😦



10:27:16  <LordAro> i'd probably do that.. only i'm about to go on holiday for 2 weeks



10:32:26  <truebrain> W00p! Time to develop shit for OpenTTD? 😄



10:42:02  <Eddi|zuHause> try to make the game more performat. that's what the people want.



10:45:25  <_jgr_> For most of "the people" it's a non-issue



10:45:54  <Eddi|zuHause> but there were two loud dudes on the forums...



10:46:55  <LordAro> not going to have a lot of time for computer activities i'm afraid



10:48:24  <Eddi|zuHause> the numbers will change with evolving computers and optimisations, but the "performance" issue is inherently unfixable in tycoon-style games



10:48:35  <_jgr_> I think describing that thread as "loud" is a bit ungenerous



10:48:50  <LordAro> have i missed some drama?



10:50:36  <_jgr_> <https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=91107> there isn't really any drama at all, just a user with too many trains for their machine



10:50:59  <LordAro> "Also, JGRPP runs like 2-3 times faster than vanilla." i'm curious about this claim



10:51:51  <_jgr_> I think that much of an improvement would only be true in fairly narrow circumstances



10:55:17  <LordAro> what sort of circumstances?



10:55:23  <LordAro> and how can we make that not the case? :)



10:57:54  <_jgr_> A fair bit of it is because I've prioritised performance over nice code which would be easy to review



10:58:33  <LordAro> there are usually solutions to that



11:00:43  <_glx_> Hmm seems I forgot to fully test step 5 in #11179



11:00:57  <_jgr_> Some stuff that I've done is listed in here: https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/blob/jgrpp/docs/jgrpp-low-level-changes.md



11:01:19  <_jgr_> Though it is a little out of date now



11:11:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11153: Fix: crash when not passing parameter for -n https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11153#pullrequestreview-1573465536



11:12:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11169: Fix #10478: Clarify airport noise control setting texts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11169#pullrequestreview-1573467535



11:15:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11173: Codechange: Add a DateToYear function instead of dividing each time https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11173#pullrequestreview-1573471553



11:17:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11174: Codechange: Use DateAtStartOfYear() instead of multiplying by DAYS_IN_LEAP_YEAR https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11174#pullrequestreview-1573474124



11:17:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11175: Codechange: Use auto type when sorting dates https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11175#pullrequestreview-1573474625



11:18:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11176: Codechange: Use proper date type in ClickChangeDateCheat https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11176#pullrequestreview-1573475503



11:20:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #11177: Codechange: Use proper date types in various places https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11177#pullrequestreview-1573476483



11:22:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #11094: Codechange: use Textbuf directly, instead via several virtual functions in Window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11094#issuecomment-1674591482



11:43:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain opened pull request #11182: Codechange: simplify the type of loaded_at_xy https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11182



11:44:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain opened pull request #11183: Codechange: make no assumptions on how the internals of TileIndex work https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11183



11:45:09  <truebrain> your turn talltyler 😄



11:45:46  <talltyler> Okay! Will take a look after breakfast



11:45:52  <truebrain> no rush / worries 🙂



11:46:02  <truebrain> you pickled some changes from my PR, I did the same 😛



11:53:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11176: Codechange: Use proper date type in ClickChangeDateCheat https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11176



11:55:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #11182: Codechange: simplify the type of loaded_at_xy https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11182#pullrequestreview-1573521540



11:55:18  <_glx_> This union is weird



11:55:37  <truebrain> lol, didn't even see it was a union



11:55:39  <truebrain> oops 😛



11:55:59  <truebrain> next_station was even weirder, but let me try to decypher



11:58:34  <_glx_> Same type for both fields, looks like it's just to use the right name when accessing, ignoring the underlying type



11:58:53  <truebrain> I guess the author had some issues with the union for one reason or the other



12:00:45  <truebrain> okay, Reassign has that type too, but it is always a station



12:00:46  <truebrain> just odd code



12:01:10  <truebrain> I am tempted to remove the Union



12:02:57  <truebrain> I could make it a variant, but that consumes the same amount of memory



12:03:36  <truebrain> owh, save/load issues if I would do that



12:03:38  <truebrain> bah, what-ever



12:04:43  <truebrain> StationID is 16bit, TileIndex is 32bit 😄



12:04:57  <truebrain> I am a bit surprised this hasn't caused any issues ...



12:05:36  <truebrain> owh, I think this is why the author made this TileOrStationID



12:05:48  <truebrain> as that was the actual problem .. the union was of unequal size, and alignment was making life hard



12:06:43  <truebrain> poeh, what is a proper way without rewriting this 😛



12:10:39  <truebrain> how about this



12:10:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #11182: Codechange: simplify the type of loaded_at_xy https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11182



12:12:03  <truebrain> at least a lot more clear what `loaded_at_xy` and `next_station` are, type-wise 🙂



12:16:43  <pickpacket> I'm listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlp1cebFxEM (seen it before)



12:16:59  <pickpacket> It feels a lot like what any type of stock market would be like in the game



12:18:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11175: Codechange: Use auto type when sorting dates https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11175



12:19:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11174: Codechange: Use DateAtStartOfYear() instead of multiplying by DAYS_IN_LEAP_YEAR https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11174



12:19:08  <pickpacket> if player actions affect the value, that is. And if player actions don't affect the value, then I don't see any point to a stock market.



12:19:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11169: Fix #10478: Clarify airport noise control setting texts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11169



12:19:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler closed issue #10478: [Bug]: Noise control setting doesn't describe airport number limit well https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10478



12:19:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11173: Codechange: Add a DateToYear function instead of dividing each time https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11173



12:25:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11183: Codechange: make no assumptions on how the internals of TileIndex work https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11183#pullrequestreview-1573563418



12:27:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11182: Codechange: simplify the type of loaded_at_xy / next_station https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11182#pullrequestreview-1573566804



12:27:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #11177: Codechange: Use proper date types in various places https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11177



12:53:41  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11177: Codechange: Use proper date types in various places https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11177#pullrequestreview-1573606975



12:53:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain merged pull request #11183: Codechange: make no assumptions on how the internals of TileIndex work https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11183



12:56:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain merged pull request #11182: Codechange: simplify the type of loaded_at_xy / next_station https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11182



13:13:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #11184: Fix #11180: Use TileVirtXY for aircraft crash tile https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11184



13:32:46  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11177: Codechange: Use proper date types in various places https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11177



13:33:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #11184: Fix #11180: Use TileVirtXY for aircraft crash tile https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11184#pullrequestreview-1573679676



14:04:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on issue #11042: [Bug]: New Oil Wells do not spawn in Temperate https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11042



14:04:29  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler closed issue #11042: [Bug]: New Oil Wells do not spawn in Temperate https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11042



14:05:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11184: Fix #11180: Use TileVirtXY for aircraft crash tile https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11184



14:05:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler closed issue #11180: [Bug]: When an aircraft crashes, in very rare cases the news points to the crash occuring near tile 0. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11180



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14:18:52  <peter1138> Damn so much going on



14:19:23  <truebrain> sorry



14:22:54  <talltyler> So much PROGRESS 😛



14:31:23  <LordAro> Smells like restricting gameplay styles in here



14:31:27  <LordAro> #helpful



14:42:25  <peter1138> Plague?



14:44:19  <truebrain> Who is running the MBP?



14:44:31  <truebrain> Let me check the DHCP server ...



14:44:42  <truebrain> (Did we finish the bingo now?)



14:45:05  <peter1138> You should google it.



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14:59:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #11181: [Crash]: in string handling (possibly in AI/GS debug window) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11181



15:15:12  <_glx_> hmm #11179 should not happen based on the actual code, let's try to reproduce



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15:26:09  <_glx_> oh no I see what's probably wrong



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15:32:42  <_glx_> ok confirmed, I did a stupid mistake



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16:21:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] danielplaumann opened issue #22: Wrong colours when decoding under macOS https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/issues/22



16:23:28  <leothejewishturtle> Should I start coding in VS Code or VS 2022?



16:25:00  <leothejewishturtle> it seemed like the readme for compiling in openttd only mentioned VS2022 and not VS Code but I wanted to ask what you all use



16:35:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #11185: Fix #11179, a979d9c: Don't start more competitors than allowed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11185



16:36:17  <_glx_> VS code should work too, but I'm using VS2022



16:36:31  <_glx_> I think peter1138 uses VSCode



16:46:35  <peter1138> I do, with WSL2



17:10:40  <frosch123> https://dpaste.org/SCD9A <- tempting



17:16:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #11185: Fix #11179, a979d9c: Don't start more competitors than allowed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11185#pullrequestreview-1574101882



17:16:59  <talltyler> I also use VS2022



17:21:48  <leothejewishturtle> Ok I’ll start w VS then. I appreciate everyone help make this thing happen



17:22:01  <alfagamma_0007> I use a random text editor



17:28:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] github-code-scanning[bot] commented on pull request #11185: Fix #11179, a979d9c: Don't start more competitors than allowed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11185#pullrequestreview-1574119647



17:32:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #11185: Fix #11179, a979d9c: Don't start more competitors than allowed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11185



17:38:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #11185: Fix #11179, a979d9c: Don't start more competitors than allowed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11185#issuecomment-1675150390



18:01:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11185: Fix #11179, a979d9c: Don't start more competitors than allowed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11185#pullrequestreview-1574159609



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18:24:39  <leothejewishturtle> alfagamma_0007: I might start using MS Paint



18:24:40  <leothejewishturtle> https://youtu.be/6rZ8NJhymPc



18:25:03  <alfagamma_0007> Good lord no



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18:31:51  <andythenorth> I can boot the MBP next week, so thst will solve our hosting dilemmas



18:32:30  <andythenorth> I actually have a spare one, but it’s only an Intel i9 so it’s quite crippled



18:58:47  <peter1138> +



18:58:57  <peter1138> i9 is crippled...



18:59:35  <andythenorth> Only 8 cores or something



19:00:50  <andythenorth> Although, putting the satire aside, after approx 2 mins of sustained load, the thermal protection throttles CPU to about 30% perf



19:01:05  <andythenorth> So really not ideal



19:01:42  <andythenorth> There’s 140w TDP of CPU + GPU in a chassis with 100w cooling



19:04:57  <andythenorth> But will probably be ok for Bananas



19:07:37  <peter1139> Yeah, power hungry CPUs not really good in a laptop.



19:08:40  <peter1139> ARM-based PCs are not really a thing yet.



19:08:43  <truebrain> frosch123: hahaha, lol 😄



19:08:47  <truebrain> that is just perfect 😄



19:09:20  <peter1139> And running Linux on Apple M1/M2 is.. risking it.



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19:10:00  <truebrain> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1139636856187781170/image.png



19:10:00  <truebrain> Can you tell where I deployed the fixes to how Cloudflare cache our wiki? 🙂



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19:28:25  <andythenorth> peter1139: It’s nearly ready. Asahi project + support for some major distro (Linux details evade me)



19:29:10  <leothejewishturtle> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1139641679306043524/image.png



19:29:10  <leothejewishturtle> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1139641679771619338/image.png



19:29:10  <leothejewishturtle> I have downloaded VS2022 and the extensions from _glx_ 's git link, but when I try to open a new project with Cmake, VS freezes and I have to close the program. I tries uninstalling Cmake and VS works with no issues. What could be the problem?



19:31:51  <_glx_> you are creating a new project ?



19:32:27  <leothejewishturtle> I'm planning on importing OpenTTD source code but right now yes I was trying to create a new project



19:33:08  <_glx_> just open openttd folder, no need to create a project, it's already in openttd source



19:33:19  <leothejewishturtle> ok ill try that



19:34:46  <frosch123> truebrain: nice, but why is it so spikey?



19:34:59  <truebrain> some wiki pages have more images than others 🙂



19:35:58  <leothejewishturtle> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1139643390691131533/image.png



19:35:58  <leothejewishturtle> Should I enable?



19:36:50  <_glx_> yes



19:36:59  <leothejewishturtle> what should the directory be?



19:37:37  <_glx_> root dir



19:38:26  <leothejewishturtle> would that be like C: ?



19:38:40  <_glx_> non the openttd source root



19:42:01  <leothejewishturtle> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1139644913739374714/image.png



19:42:01  <leothejewishturtle> so in this case would that be OpenTTD-master? It's only giving me the option to open the file and not select it for some reason



19:43:23  <_glx_> open CMakeLists.txt



19:43:37  <_glx_> that's what it wants



19:43:43  <leothejewishturtle> ok thats what i was thinking but i didnt want to fuk something up



19:43:50  <leothejewishturtle> it worked



19:47:54  <leothejewishturtle> i probably should have installed vcpkg and all the recomended libraries before i did that right? i just got a bunch of internal errors when i tried to open a file lol



19:58:14  <Bouke> I'm trying to build OpenTTD with Xcode. This worked in the past, I think, but is now resulting in a build failure: `clang: error: no such file or directory: '/Users/bouke/Developer/OpenTTD/build-xcode/openttd.build/Debug/openttd_lib.build/Objects-normal/x86_64/game_info.o'`. The problem appears to be that cmake and Xcode don't play nice when there are two files with the same name:



19:58:14  <Bouke> `src/game/game_info.cpp` and `src/network/core/game_info.cpp`. There's a discussion about this on the mailing list, but their resolution is the workaround of renaming one of the files: https://cmake.org/pipermail/cmake/2016-April/063171.html. What can I do about this?



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20:20:51  <leothejewishturtle> Bouke: Are you trying to publish OpenTTD on the app store?



20:22:22  <Bouke> No



20:23:04  <Bouke> I've found the problem:  https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/9b56505feca991736c323ae64e3fc5416522de70 https://gitlab.kitware.com/cmake/cmake/-/issues/20501 😢



20:24:12  <_glx_> clear the cmake cache if there is one from the past and you updated



20:24:24  <peter1138> Used to be an issue with old MSVS too.



20:25:47  <Bouke> The problem is that the build is now split into library and executable. cmake's Xcode project file generation can't handle that. So Xcode can no longer be used to build OpenTTD.



20:25:48  <_glx_> oh wrong understanding of the error message from me



20:26:49  <_glx_> yeah CI uses xcode but not directly, we only use command line



20:30:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #11185: Fix #11179, a979d9c: Don't start more competitors than allowed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11185



20:30:09  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 closed issue #11179: [Bug]: Max competitors is ignored when AI interval is zero https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11179



20:36:42  <peter1138> Bouke: You could rename the files and make a PR.



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20:38:35  <Bouke> peter1138: I'll do that; seems like a regression.



20:39:19  <Bouke> https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Archive/Compilation%20and%20Ports/Compiling%20on%20GNU%E2%88%95Linux%20and%20🟉BSD is that 'unsupported glyph' just before 'BSD' a left-over from porting the wiki?



20:56:03  <LordAro> probably '*'



20:56:16  <LordAro> all of the wiki compilation stuff is long out of date



20:56:25  <LordAro> pretty sure all of it predates cmake



21:03:59  <Bouke> LordAro: Ah makes sense; the `/` in the name is also a glyph with a similar appearance. Probably to avoid invalid characters in filenames.



21:05:20  <peter1138> That page is a mess. Like it just switches to monospace half-way...



21:06:13  <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1139666104357240842/image.png



21:06:13  <peter1138> Not unsupported though :p



21:06:54  <peter1138> It's very out of date, you should use the documentation on github.



21:12:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] Bouke opened issue #25: Move/rename page 'en/Archive/Compiling on GNU∕Linux and 🟉BSD' https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/25



21:28:46  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] Bouke commented on issue #25: Move/rename page 'en/Archive/Compiling on GNU∕Linux and 🟉BSD' https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/25



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21:46:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Bouke opened pull request #11186: Workaround CMake/Xcode duplicate file name issue https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11186



21:46:22  <peter1138> It's not invalid unicode.



21:47:08  <peter1138> "i don't have a typeface installed that can handle this" is a you issue 🙂



21:48:36  <Bouke> Well yes. But what if the "me" is a lot of "mes", then it sorta becomes "you"



21:52:04  <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1139677640819748954/image.png



21:52:07  <_glx_> works fine here



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21:54:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #11186: Workaround CMake/Xcode duplicate file name issue https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11186#issuecomment-1675444611



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21:55:24  <truebrain> You all know it is a wiki right? And you can just fix things if you like? 😛



21:57:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Bouke updated pull request #11186: Workaround CMake/Xcode duplicate file name issue https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11186



22:01:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Bouke commented on pull request #11186: Workaround CMake/Xcode duplicate file name issue https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11186#issuecomment-1675449641



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