IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2022-07-19
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03:53:21 <ely-the-kitsune> this game is awesome
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06:30:25 <wallabra> What did I do wrong in my world generation parameters? ECS Vectors industries fail to spawn a handful of industry types, which didn't happen before :<
06:30:59 <wallabra> I'll double check my GRF list
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06:39:19 <wallabra> I wonder if it's ECSext's fault.
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06:41:28 <wallabra> Maybe it's the low number of towns but I don't want them to be too close together.
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07:02:43 <wallabra> And I wish there was a way to set the % of cities that would be linked with public roads by worldgen (apart from either none or all).
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12:52:34 <glx> no nightlies for 20 days and nobody told us
12:53:41 <glx> disabled workflows as usual (the 60 days limit)
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13:33:50 <DorpsGek> Samu: 12832.702702702703
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13:45:56 <LordAro> 35 years to pathfind across the entire map doesn't seem so bad
13:49:41 <LordAro> that's the absolute worst case
13:49:57 <LordAro> which is absolutely never going to happen in "reality"
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14:45:11 <FLHerne> eh, on larger maps 256 tiles isn't an unreasonable or even unlikely distance
14:46:18 <LordAro> FLHerne: look at the image samu posted
14:46:23 <LordAro> it's not exactly a reasonable distance
14:46:48 <FLHerne> it's still doing that spaghetti thing
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15:20:29 <glx> but why doing these weird PF runs ? 35 years seems right here
15:23:16 <glx> and 1 build command per tick for the number of track tiles
15:26:51 <glx> (building time is around 2.5 years if my math is correct)
15:28:55 <glx> finding the worst path is of course slower because it can't discard branches before they reach the destination
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16:57:41 <Samu> im just testing consecutive turns and slopes penalties on the dual rail pathfinder, it's too restrictive apaprently
16:58:54 <Samu> it's amazing i can pack these many features into the pf
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18:39:11 <Samu> hmm the pf is no longer memory efficient, i screwed up somewhere
18:56:03 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:36:58 <LordAro> i like the bit about std::regex
19:38:45 <frosch123> if you want to know the future, look at the past :)
19:38:53 <frosch123> c++11 broke the ABI for std::list
19:39:08 <frosch123> gcc had some compatibility flag, so distros could pick
19:40:30 <frosch123> in the end it comes down: c++ libraries tend to not be ABI compatible whatsoever between versions, unless the interface is restricted to very simple data types and no templates
19:41:41 <LordAro> i literally today ran into the std::string issue in gcc 4.8
19:42:05 <LordAro> where they changed in in v5, i think?
19:43:38 <LordAro> turns out, linking against a library compiled with the system g++ on centos7 does not work so well if the program was compiled with gcc10
19:47:31 <frosch123> yeah, enterprise linux :) old by design
19:47:55 <frosch123> luckily there are only 2, otherwise they would probably compete on who is older
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20:12:45 <wallabra> can openttd run doom?
20:19:35 <LordAro> well you can do logic gates
20:19:52 <nielsm> use a GS and/or set of AIs to manipulate the map
20:20:07 <nielsm> and take playing inputs by building stuff in a specific area
20:21:20 <nielsm> if you use a full set of AIs you can do map updates faster
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20:38:32 <Samu> what's the difference between append and push?
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20:40:07 <Samu> why do both exist if they do the same
20:51:32 <Rubidium> probably to support something like stacks with arrays out of the box. With a stack you'd do push and pop, whereas if you use it as an array you'd use append
21:16:34 <DorpsGek> Samu: 0.7756623077444271
21:18:57 <Samu> but im cutting many corners
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