IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2022-06-22
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09:19:43 <Samu> ais need a function to compute cargo weight
09:20:05 <Samu> might be useful, I think
09:56:30 <peter1138> Isn't that just maths?
10:17:53 <Samu> how much does a passenger weight
10:18:09 <Samu> how much does 40 passengers weight in tonnes
10:25:29 <peter1138> cargo->weight / 16, but also take into account FreightWagonMult()
10:42:41 <peter1138> Or maybe just add a method to get the current weight of a vehicle.
10:44:46 <peter1138> That would be most accurate because, of course, NewGRF can vary capacity.
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10:46:57 <Samu> they can make a passenger weight more than it should?
10:47:48 <Samu> i'm working on ScriptCargo::GetWeight
10:48:02 <Samu> it gets it from the cargo spec
10:48:25 <peter1138> Vary capacity, not vary weight.
10:48:38 <Samu> ScriptCargo::GetWeight(cargo_type, amount)
10:50:07 <Samu> return ::CargoSpec::Get(cargo_type)->weight * static_cast<int64>(amount) / 16;
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11:05:50 <Samu> uint in one side, uint32 in the other
11:14:14 <peter1138> Samu, I would include the freight multiplier inside the AI function.
11:14:20 <peter1138> Then the AI doesn't have to know or care about it.
11:15:53 <peter1138> Using AIGameSettings.GetValue("freight_trains") is a red flag
11:20:37 <Samu> but the problem is, that only applies to trains
11:25:06 <peter1138> Maybe include vehicle type as a parameter instead.
11:25:21 <peter1138> getweight(cargo_type, vehicle_type, amount)
11:35:56 <andythenorth> I tried to make it work once, but it crashed a lot :P
12:39:28 <Samu> i dont know how to regression test again
12:39:39 <Samu> where is the log file generated
13:02:21 <Samu> what weight should i return for ships and aircraft?
13:02:48 <Samu> the actual value without freight multiplier?
13:03:39 <Samu> does weight even affect them?
13:06:30 <Samu> btw I noticed GetDistributionType (CargoID cargo_type) doesn't have regression tests
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13:21:29 <Samu> great, another hidden weight...
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14:14:28 <Samu> tractive effort for maglevs is still computed, very confusing
14:49:00 <Samu> do wagons have tractive effort?
14:50:25 <Samu> also there is power and power
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18:04:32 <Teshiron> Quick question re: NoAI AILists, is there an easy way to Valuate the list by performing an operation on the current value? it seems wasteful to have to re-calculate the current value first.
18:27:27 <frosch123> never heard something like that
18:27:42 <frosch123> i would make a copy of the list, or "transform" the value during the copying
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18:51:15 <Teshiron> sorry, if anyone had previously responded, I missed it when the computer went to sleep :P
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20:05:40 <Samu> hi Teshiron, I will look forward for an updated Teshinet :p
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20:17:08 <Teshiron> I decided to write a new one instead, but it'll be pretty similar to start with
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21:37:40 <Samu> i was calculating the wrong max speed for the train :( dumb me
21:39:24 <Samu> which newgrf has imposed track speed limits that works well with UKRS2 or Iron Horse?
21:49:52 <Samu> Zeus (Electric) with 5x Railcar Trailer running on Advanced electric high-speed line construction
21:52:49 <Samu> not really sure why it has to be Advanced electric high-speed line construction
21:53:18 <Samu> if max speed is 159 km/h
21:54:24 <Samu> tomorrow I'll improve this
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