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00:05:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9888: Fix #9870: Don't update infrastructure totals when overbuilding object on canal https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9888
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01:00:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9889: Fix #9883: Show cost/income float over end tile of rail or road construction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9889
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12:19:42 <antz> anyone using open ttd
12:20:08 <antz> looking to edit orginal bank balance upon entering agame
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13:44:32 <peter1138> Edit how?
13:44:52 <peter1138> If you just want more money there's a cheat for that...
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14:52:48 <TrueBrain> https://github.blog/changelog/2022-05-11-default-to-pr-titles-for-squash-merge-commit-messages/
14:52:52 <TrueBrain> :o :o
14:53:01 <TrueBrain> Can we enable this?!
14:56:46 <glx> I though it was already the case
14:57:13 <glx> plus PR number
14:59:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh closed issue #9882: [Bug]: Negative train total cargo https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9882
15:00:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #9887: Change: Use an indent, not a dash, to list train capacity https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9887
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16:18:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9890: Fix #9712: Cap town bridge length at original 11-tile limit https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9890
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17:07:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9891: Feature: Towns don't build parallel, redundant bridges https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9891
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17:09:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on discussion #9299: Cities build irrational bridges: right on the shore, along the lake, next to each other https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/9299
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17:21:12 <andythenorth> yo
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17:27:48 <frosch123> moo
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17:43:35 <andythenorth> what shall we do today?
17:44:04 <frosch123> apparently i wanted to test my eints fies
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18:20:16 <frosch123> hmm... wording...
18:20:31 <frosch123> if eints translation history shows two translations
18:20:56 <frosch123> one was just changed and is not commited. i label it "commit pending"
18:21:09 <frosch123> what do i label the one which is still in the repository?
18:21:17 <frosch123> "last commit"?
18:21:49 <frosch123> "lame duck"?
18:23:42 <Rubidium> "currently in main" (potentially with a "currently in 12.x")?
18:24:59 <frosch123> "last build"?
18:25:07 <frosch123> i do not know the branch name
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18:36:32 <TrueBrain> "Most recent version"
18:36:52 <TrueBrain> "Committed"
18:36:57 <frosch123> yep, i went for "committed" :)
18:37:01 <nielsm> "Current published"
18:37:08 <TrueBrain> W00p, I won!
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19:03:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71
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19:03:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72
19:04:40 <frosch123> hmm, oh, that includes #71
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19:06:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 updated pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72
19:06:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73
19:08:12 <frosch123> let's see whether i can restore the correct translations
19:10:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71#pullrequestreview-971337462
19:11:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain approved pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71#pullrequestreview-971337836
19:11:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] LordAro approved pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71#pullrequestreview-971338266
19:12:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain approved pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72#pullrequestreview-971339031
19:12:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72#pullrequestreview-971339300
19:12:38 <TrueBrain> Debug features
19:12:44 <TrueBrain> Beautiful name
19:12:54 <TrueBrain> At least you get enough approvals
19:13:52 <frosch123> numbers per PR are degrading though, 3 approvals, 2 approvals, 0 approvals :p
19:13:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain approved pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73#pullrequestreview-971340884
19:14:15 <TrueBrain> We are reading ffs :p
19:14:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73#pullrequestreview-971341202
19:14:19 <TrueBrain> And nasty bug
19:14:34 <glx> that's a nice oupsie
19:15:03 <glx> how many languages affected by it ?
19:15:14 <frosch123> no idea :)
19:15:24 <glx> at least one is known
19:15:48 <frosch123> i would have to make 280k webcalls to find out
19:16:07 <frosch123> unless there is a ways to get the file from the eints-disk storage
19:16:52 <glx> there's the download button, but it gives the same as openttd master
19:17:09 <TrueBrain> I can get you those files frosch123
19:17:30 <TrueBrain> Just requires me to get off the couch
19:17:42 <frosch123> glx: yeah, you can only see it, if you go to the individual string pages :)
19:19:48 <TrueBrain> how do you want the files? :P
19:20:01 <frosch123> as gist?
19:20:18 <glx> lol
19:20:23 <TrueBrain> eeuuuhhh
19:20:34 <frosch123> well, whatever, i use gist as pastebin :)
19:20:56 <frosch123> if you use git to push to gist, you can upload any filetype
19:21:01 <frosch123> also zips
19:22:10 <TrueBrain> hmm ... seems I need to recover my aws-cli profile from my old system .. that is difficult right now .. hmm .. how else can I download the content of a bucket ...
19:25:58 <TrueBrain> ah, found it :D w00p
19:26:22 <frosch123> the cli profile? or the old system? :p
19:26:30 <TrueBrain> cli profile :)
19:27:11 <TrueBrain> it is 188MB of data
19:27:33 <TrueBrain> lets hope compression does a lot :D
19:28:08 <frosch123> i don't need the weird backup files
19:28:37 <TrueBrain> compressed it is 117MB .. lol .. okay, lets remove those weird files :D
19:29:14 <TrueBrain> bup01 .... what was wrong with the more commonly used name "bak" :P
19:29:29 <frosch123> maybe it's dutch?
19:29:34 <TrueBrain> nope
19:29:46 <TrueBrain> backup is also backup
19:30:07 <frosch123> even in the 90s?
19:30:18 <TrueBrain> yeah ...
19:30:21 <TrueBrain> strange, not? :D
19:30:40 <TrueBrain> fetching the latest eints backup takes a bit, as the dorpsgek backup is in the same folder
19:30:43 <frosch123> at least here CS switched from german to english only with public internet
19:30:47 <TrueBrain> which is just 25000 files it is validating ...
19:30:58 <frosch123> there are all these fancy translations for compiler, linker and so one
19:31:12 <TrueBrain> we have some purist that try to introduce Dutch words for English words
19:31:34 <TrueBrain> they fail horribly
19:31:39 <TrueBrain> as it sounds very Belgium
19:31:42 <TrueBrain> (no offense meant)
19:31:44 <glx> oh we have the same here
19:32:15 <glx> when they could use existing beautiful QC translations
19:32:29 <TrueBrain> a milkshake becomes "melkgeschud" .. milk -> melk, shake -> schudden, or in the right tense: geschud .. melkgeschud .. yes, now you made a new word for absolutely no good reason other than being a fucking twat
19:32:52 <frosch123> yeah, i work in a french company. some home-grown infrastructure has only french names
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19:34:34 <TrueBrain> 60MB still
19:34:40 <TrueBrain> how to get that to you ... euuuhhhhhhhhh
19:34:56 <LordAro> start an ftp server
19:35:14 <TrueBrain> ftp, no, but ... you do have the right idea, tnx
19:35:21 <LordAro> damn
19:35:22 <LordAro> :p
19:35:37 <glx> and I think the worst is marketing forcing to use digital everywhere but digital is related to fingers here :)
19:36:26 <frosch123> ah that's why the CEO always plays with his fingers, when talking about the cloud
19:37:01 <glx> the right term is and always was numérique
19:38:00 <TrueBrain> ngrok to the rescue!
19:38:07 <TrueBrain> keep forgetting how ease that makes a lot of shit these days :)
19:39:28 <frosch123> is that a turn server?
19:39:46 <TrueBrain> sort-of, yes
19:39:46 <TrueBrain> https://ngrok.com/
19:40:06 <TrueBrain> I love how websites do not make clear what it actually does :P
19:40:27 <TrueBrain> all these fancy words, for simply saying: we tunnel your connection to one of our edge public IPs :P
19:40:28 <frosch123> yeah, that's why i asked :)
19:41:37 <TrueBrain> cloudflared is similar, but requires more setup :P
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19:46:15 <michi_cc_> The best German CS term is still Kellerspeicher, IMHO.
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19:46:43 <frosch123> i only used Kellerautomat
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19:47:23 <glx> I remember when VBA was localised
19:47:38 <glx> not a good idea :)
19:47:40 <frosch123> is it no longer?
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19:48:04 <glx> dunno maybe it's still an option
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19:48:59 <glx> macros are still localised I think, but IIRC excel understands both
19:50:05 * andythenorth waves at `color` again :P
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19:51:07 <nielsm> in excel the function names in formulas in the regular UI are localized but the VBA is not, yeah
19:51:50 <LordAro> fun excel fact i was reminded of recently: guess the result of `=2+"2 a"`
19:52:14 <nielsm> either it's 4 or it's an error
19:52:15 <glx> it should error
19:52:24 <LordAro> nope
19:52:25 <nielsm> the operator for string concatenation is &
19:52:49 <LordAro> (and when you give in and type it into excel, can you explain the output?)
19:53:36 <glx> 2,083333333
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19:54:00 <glx> but I don't know why
19:54:13 <nielsm> ah right, it's "2 o'clock am"
19:54:32 <nielsm> which is one twelvth of a day
19:54:42 <LordAro> isn't excel great?
19:54:50 <TrueBrain> No
19:55:10 <TrueBrain> At least it integrates with Eve now
19:55:10 <LordAro> :)
19:55:13 <LordAro> lol
19:55:38 <glx> oh yeah I just typed `2 a` in a cell and it converted to `2:00 AM`
20:19:23 <andythenorth> hmm Horse time
20:19:27 <andythenorth> enough obsessing
20:20:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9888: Fix #9870: Don't update infrastructure totals when overbuilding object on canal https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9888#pullrequestreview-971411488
20:21:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9890: Fix #9712: Cap town bridge length at original 11-tile limit https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9890#pullrequestreview-971411766
20:24:43 <frosch123> https://dpaste.org/ZUbEH <- glx: number of affected strings :)
20:25:22 <glx> could have been worse
20:25:34 <frosch123> only one french
20:26:00 <glx> in openmsx
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20:33:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #71: Fix: Translation-hints from related languages showed the text from the current language, not from the related one. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/71
20:33:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #72: Feature: the string translation history shows exact time-stamps, and which version is committed or pending. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/72
20:34:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #73: Fix #70: commited translations were not tagged as "committed". https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/73
20:34:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 closed issue #70: Eints is reverting/ignoring translations, but they still exist in the History https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/issues/70
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20:35:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on issue #70: Eints is reverting/ignoring translations, but they still exist in the History https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/issues/70
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20:38:02 <TrueBrain> Don't forget to tag for a new release when you are ready
20:38:15 <TrueBrain> Don't forget to hit the autogenerate changelog button
20:38:24 <frosch123> waiting for staging
20:38:37 <TrueBrain> Smart
20:38:38 <frosch123> ok, never saw/pressed that button
20:42:46 <TrueBrain> Ain't it a pretty button? :d
20:42:56 <glx> it's a cute button :)
20:46:12 <frosch123> lol, staging confused me yesterday when all translations were "2 months old"
20:46:22 <frosch123> turns out, eints does not know what a month is
20:46:31 <frosch123> apparently a month is 30 weeks
20:46:42 <glx> another thing to fix ?
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20:49:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 opened pull request #74: Fix: relative age of translations assumed months to be 30 weeks long. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/74
20:50:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] glx22 approved pull request #74: Fix: relative age of translations assumed months to be 30 weeks long. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/74#pullrequestreview-971442030
20:51:07 <glx> years was right, but it's better now
20:53:31 <frosch123> the new debugging feature paid out :)
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20:58:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #74: Fix: relative age of translations assumed months to be 30 weeks long. https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/pull/74
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21:06:17 <TrueBrain> 30 week months .. that is funny
21:09:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 created new tag: 1.2.3 https://github.com/OpenTTD/eints/releases/tag/1.2.3
21:09:59 <frosch123> i think i pressed that button before, i just forgot about it :)
21:10:07 <LordAro> i'd have called it 1.3.0 :p
21:10:32 <frosch123> aw, i was pretty excited to get to tag 1.2.3
21:11:20 <LordAro> true
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