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08:35:19 <TrueBrain> meh; just meh. Time to play some chess instead :D (git via browser is hard :P)
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08:56:32 * andythenorth played chess before
08:56:37 <andythenorth> not very well
08:59:24 <TrueBrain> I am not terrible, but for sure not any good :P
09:02:20 <TrueBrain> meh, I am kinda forces into either of two solutions: 1) put everything for TrueGRF in a single file, or 2) use git-wasm and put Cloudflare Worker in between for CORS "bypass"
09:02:29 <TrueBrain> I really do not like 1), as it makes terrible repositories
09:02:43 <TrueBrain> I don't like 2), as there might be cost involved if too many people use it :P
09:03:37 <TrueBrain> I was trying to create a 3), where I use the GitHub REST API to handle the repository, but tracking all the state is .. well, easy to fuck up :P
09:04:33 <TrueBrain> mostly, I cannot batch update files via the API
09:04:48 <TrueBrain> so every file that updates, is its own commit
09:05:50 <andythenorth> that's quite....noisy :)
09:05:52 <andythenorth> for history
09:05:56 <TrueBrain> yup
09:06:10 <TrueBrain> so alternatively, I could do a single file for each industry, and embed the PNGs in there
09:06:24 <TrueBrain> but it just sounds horrible, to have base64 encoded PNGs in files .. instead of just having them on disk
09:06:31 <TrueBrain> meaning I am working around the API limitations, not make good software
09:06:55 <andythenorth> it is horrible, but it's maybe the thing to do
09:07:10 <andythenorth> they could be extracted from the files with a utility?
09:07:22 <TrueBrain> sure, it is still a PNG
09:07:38 <TrueBrain> but I don't like working around limitations like this .. only results in more issues down the line
09:07:42 <andythenorth> I mean...this is not uncommon
09:08:25 <andythenorth> application file formats are a thing
09:08:45 <andythenorth> it's nicer when they're a bundle with a real filesystem inside, not some big binary blob, but eh
09:09:15 <andythenorth> in fact, not sure I've seen any that are a bundle like that
09:09:25 * andythenorth confusing it with mac apps
09:09:38 <TrueBrain> I am unsure what you are actually talking about .. "this" .. "like that" .. it is all very vague :P
09:10:00 <andythenorth> I think we can conclude I have no idea
09:10:09 <andythenorth> what visual effect to use for hydrogen trains?
09:10:12 <andythenorth> or battery trains?
09:10:17 <TrueBrain> lol
09:10:22 <TrueBrain> you are of no use like this! :P
09:10:42 <andythenorth> you need frosch
09:10:52 <TrueBrain> no, I need sanity! :P
09:10:56 <TrueBrain> (in the world)
09:10:57 <TrueBrain> or in my head
09:10:59 <TrueBrain> pick one :P
09:11:22 <andythenorth> which is better?
09:11:28 <andythenorth> sanity in an insane world?
09:11:33 <andythenorth> or insanity in a sane world?
09:12:07 <andythenorth> hmm not playing the tank game is bad for my brain
09:12:31 <andythenorth> the genre of 'like twitch gaming, but slow, for old men' is limited in scope
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10:34:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc opened pull request #9834: Add: [NewGRF] Map seed as global variable. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9834
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11:35:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9834: Add: [NewGRF] Map seed as global variable. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9834#issuecomment-1066082112
11:37:59 <frosch123> TrueBrain: is chess-via-git a modern variant of chess-via-mail ?
11:38:06 <TrueBrain> yes
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11:52:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #9834: Add: [NewGRF] Map seed as global variable. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9834#issuecomment-1066084911
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12:43:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc updated pull request #9834: Add: [NewGRF] Map seed as global variable. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9834
12:44:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #9834: Add: [NewGRF] Map seed as global variable. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9834#issuecomment-1066093703
12:46:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #9834: Add: [NewGRF] Map seed as global variable. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9834#pullrequestreview-908134129
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13:20:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #9834: Add: [NewGRF] Map seed as global variable. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9834
13:21:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] michicc opened pull request #250: Add: Map seed in patch variable 0x17. https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/250
13:22:26 <michi_cc> Hmm I think NML CI is quite broken :(
13:42:00 <frosch123> when will python drop the "3." from the version number?
13:43:05 <TrueBrain> lol, not a bad idea honestly :D
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14:00:45 <glx> michi_cc: yes it is, see https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/248
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14:04:10 <glx> oh and it will be more broken in 2 days :)
14:04:57 <glx> openttd CI will break in 2 days too
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14:28:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #9835: Change: [Actions] Remove VS2017 and restore VS2019 for CI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9835
14:29:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #9835: Change: [Actions] Remove VS2017 and restore VS2019 for CI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9835#pullrequestreview-908146105
14:36:18 <glx> oh of course I need to update required checks
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15:04:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] frosch123 approved pull request #248: Update: [Actions] python versions for regression test https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/248#pullrequestreview-908150588
15:05:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #9835: Change: [Actions] Remove VS2017 and restore VS2019 for CI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9835
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15:11:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 merged pull request #248: Update: [Actions] python versions for regression test https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/248
15:11:32 <glx> CodeQL still fails but that's another story
15:22:25 <glx> ok seems black is failing too
15:22:57 <TrueBrain> black format changed slightly
15:23:00 <TrueBrain> I had that on a few projects
15:23:26 <glx> - self.uvalue += 2 ** 32
15:23:26 <glx> + self.uvalue += 2**32
15:23:32 <glx> makes sense
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16:54:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 opened pull request #251: Codechange: black changed code style for power operators https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/251
16:55:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] frosch123 approved pull request #251: Codechange: black changed code style for power operators https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/251#pullrequestreview-908163291
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17:02:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 merged pull request #251: Codechange: black changed code style for power operators https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/251
17:03:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] michicc updated pull request #250: Add: Map seed in patch variable 0x17. https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/250
17:16:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] frosch123 approved pull request #246: Fix: advanced spritelayout may use no buildings https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/246#pullrequestreview-908165401
17:17:39 <andythenorth> so much grf spec commits :)
17:17:51 <andythenorth> will there be some docs to do? :P
17:20:17 <glx> hmm and I can't force merge
17:20:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 dismissed a review for pull request #246: Fix: advanced spritelayout may use no buildings https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/246#pullrequestreview-908165401
17:21:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 updated pull request #246: Fix: advanced spritelayout may use no buildings https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/246
17:21:22 <frosch123> why did force not merge?
17:21:39 <glx> because required checks
17:21:45 <glx> I can't bypass that
17:21:56 <frosch123> ah, so force is disabled in settings
17:22:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] frosch123 approved pull request #246: Fix: advanced spritelayout may use no buildings https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/246#pullrequestreview-908165941
17:24:40 <glx> indeed restrictions apply to admins for nml
17:32:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 merged pull request #246: Fix: advanced spritelayout may use no buildings https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/246
17:41:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 updated pull request #244: Add: support for stations https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/244
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