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07:53:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Stratdan0 commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz
07:54:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Stratdan0 commented on issue #9640: [Bug]: Turning the music volume slider to 0 then back results only playing MIDI sounds at default volume https://git.io/Jikqf
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08:20:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic opened pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail and road depots can be changed https://git.io/JitGY
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08:53:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rau117 commented on issue #9641: [Bug]: Hardware acceleration makes the game sutter and slower https://git.io/JikYz
09:32:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail and road depots can be changed https://git.io/JitX5
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13:01:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic commented on pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail and road depots can be changed https://git.io/Jiq8V
13:13:09 <glx> hmm I have an idea that may improve ships, sometimes they can't find a path from ship to destination, but a path can be found from destination to ship
13:16:40 <glx> no it's logical, depending on where is the ship, the number of open tiles can be way bigger
13:30:03 <glx> https://imgur.com/ZPLcnLT <-- here (with disabled_node_optimisation so many open nodes), the ship easily finds path from "bords de lac" to "docks", but not from "docks" to "bords de lac"
13:42:14 <LordAro> bit more than a month ago :p
13:42:54 <glx> yes I didn't check the screenshot dates before this comment
13:42:59 <LordAro> i told Rb in one of the other PRs that .compare was 'dangerous'
13:46:46 <glx> compare result is the same as strcmp, but the conversion inverted the test
13:48:39 <LordAro> and the other one in the diff is fine
13:50:45 <glx> the other line was already == 0 :)
13:53:18 <dP> why not just == instead of .compare() ?
13:55:20 <andythenorth> was where we did France<-<UK school trips
14:01:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #9644: Fix #9643, 95386dc: Incorrect determination of screenshot format https://git.io/Jiq2C
14:09:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9644: Fix #9643, 95386dc: Incorrect determination of screenshot format https://git.io/JiqaN
14:10:51 <glx> it's nice we do RC and beta, and no bugs are reported ;)
14:11:35 <LordAro> this + the crash on title screen probably means we should do a release this weekend
14:13:25 <LordAro> dP: not found any desyncs yet, at least? :)
14:13:35 <glx> and the signal gui toggle
14:16:58 <dP> nope, all desyncs on 1.11.2
14:34:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #9644: Fix #9643, 95386dc: Incorrect determination of screenshot format https://git.io/Jiq2C
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15:46:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic updated pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail and road depots can be changed https://git.io/JitGY
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15:51:08 <TrueBrain> LordAro: maybe also good to look into disabling panning for title screen or something .. it seems to make people nauseous :)
15:52:43 <glx> or maybe slower panning ?
15:53:42 <glx> hmm but it depends on vehicle speed probably
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15:56:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #9612: Add: Draw rotor in cursor when dragging helicopters. https://git.io/JiqNE
15:57:43 <frosch123> i wondered about stopping the titlescreen animation when you move the mouse, and continue it only after 5 seconds of idle time
15:58:18 <frosch123> though i am unsure whether the animation is timed closely with what is happening in the game
15:59:09 <frosch123> i mean from the design point of view
15:59:19 <frosch123> is it timed to show some area while trains are there
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15:59:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic updated pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail and road depots can be changed https://git.io/JitGY
16:00:20 <glx> I think panning is worse for me when zoomed in
16:01:07 <LordAro> TrueBrain: disable entirely, or on an option?
16:01:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic updated pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail and road depots can be changed https://git.io/JitGY
16:02:18 <TrueBrain> LordAro: Dunno. Haven't thought it through ;)
16:02:41 <TrueBrain> Was mainly reading the steam thread :p
16:07:09 <glx> disabling panning is easy I think (just an extra setting)
16:07:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic commented on pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail and road depots can be changed https://git.io/Jiqp4
16:07:53 <glx> would allow jumping to new location, which I think is ok
16:08:30 <glx> zooming in and out can already be disabled via the settings
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16:13:26 <glx> ah no, zoom out can't be disabled
16:13:43 <TrueBrain> If we disable it by default, should it be a setting (panning), I wonder ;)
16:14:32 <TrueBrain> (And if this many people have issues with it, it should be disabled by default imo :p)
16:14:46 <TrueBrain> frosch123 in some form might work too ofc :)
16:14:58 <TrueBrain> frosch123's suggestion
16:16:31 <frosch123> i am trying some mouse-idle thing now
16:17:00 <glx> I think there's no real timing related to what happens in the area, it's just a loop showing whatever happens when it's on an area
16:18:46 <glx> SelectGameWindow::OnRealtimeTick() can decrease the idle timer before actually doing the animation, with input loop resetting it on mouse move
16:18:48 <frosch123> yes, the titlegame winner does not include any follow-vehicle commands
16:19:55 <LordAro> my solution was just going to be removing the scroll to commands
16:20:49 <glx> scrolling is nice when no focused on the window
16:27:54 <frosch123> lol, silly me... i checked out master, and wondered why nothing triggers the titlegame to move
16:28:45 <TrueBrain> Just wait a bit longer
16:28:53 <TrueBrain> Just a tinnnnyyyy bit longer
16:29:37 <glx> if you check 12.0 branch, be sure gui.zoom_min is at least 2x
16:33:11 <LordAro> which OTTD version had savegame v4? :p
16:33:18 <LordAro> open it in that and add some signs
16:33:56 <glx> easier to change savegame version in source
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16:45:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #9645: Pause panning in intro game while user is interacting with the GUI https://git.io/JimkT
16:45:34 <frosch123> triggered a preview build
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17:03:00 <frosch123> that's why i drafted it :p
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17:18:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #9645: Pause panning in intro game while user is interacting with the GUI https://git.io/Jim33
17:33:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #9645: Pause panning in intro game while user is interacting with the GUI https://git.io/JimkT
17:38:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9645: Pause panning in intro game while user is interacting with the GUI https://git.io/JimnW
17:39:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 merged pull request #9612: Add: Draw rotor in cursor when dragging helicopters. https://git.io/JKBHo
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17:48:34 <frosch123> nielsm: not sure whether you were asking about a translation dictionary.. but some teams use the github team discussions for that
17:49:53 <frosch123> not sure whether there is something like team wiki :p
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18:53:09 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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18:56:06 <andythenorth> did I offer to upload opengfx to bananas some weeks ago? :P
18:57:57 <frosch123> our lord already did
18:58:13 <LordAro> never did sort of osfx or omsx tho
18:58:40 <frosch123> does the installer still exist? or is there only bootstrap download now?
18:59:14 <frosch123> then the installer-opengfx may also need to be updated, no idea how :p
18:59:35 <LordAro> i think that uses a ogfx-latest type link?
19:00:54 * andythenorth considers an nml release
19:01:09 <andythenorth> 8 fixes since 0.6.1
19:08:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9642: Feature: Orientation of rail, road and ship depots can be changed https://git.io/Jimu1
19:09:57 <Rubidium> next step hangars? ;)
19:10:49 <TrueBrain> frosch123: installers no longer request to download the files
19:10:56 <TrueBrain> (as bootstrap takes care of that)
19:11:05 <TrueBrain> and updating it for older installers .... meh :P
19:11:38 <TrueBrain> I did update Steam and GOG with latest OpenGFX however :)
19:21:35 <andythenorth> did I test that one already? :)
19:21:54 <andythenorth> I don't have the branch name locally, so maybe not
20:00:35 <andythenorth> might be failing with Iron Horse
20:04:06 <andythenorth> glx nmlc ERROR: "generated/iron-horse.nml", line 14399: Unexpected identifier encountered: 'switch_graphics_mail_car_ruleset_position_check_last'
20:04:11 <andythenorth> can I get any more useful debug output?
20:05:19 <glx> or is it optimisation branch ?
20:05:48 <andythenorth> this was optimise_more
20:06:06 <andythenorth> switch is part of that silly loop unroll I wrote
20:06:42 <glx> maybe too much optimisation
20:23:33 <frosch123> is there a highscore for how often you can write "bollocks" in a PR description? :p
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