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07:44:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9589: Fix #9588, 140a96b: [Squirrel] Reaching memory limit during script registration could prevent further script detections https://git.io/J2Yzx
08:55:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/py-protocol] TrueBrain opened pull request #19: Fix: better guard the process_queue() coroutine for exceptions https://git.io/J2Oov
08:56:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/py-protocol] TrueBrain merged pull request #19: Fix: better guard the process_queue() coroutine for exceptions https://git.io/J2Oov
09:02:28 <TrueBrain> ah, I finally have an idea why we see so many aborts
09:02:40 <TrueBrain> it is just the OpenTTD client being a bit slow in sending the GC packets, I think
09:45:29 <Heiki> STR_NETWORK_SERVER_LIST_INFO_ICONS_TOOLTIP says “Language, server version, etc.”, but there is no language information any more
09:46:18 <TrueBrain> nielsm: cool :D Did you read what I wrote yesterday by any chance btw?
10:06:50 <nielsm> I don't think I did no
10:07:08 <TrueBrain> nielsm: would it be an idea to create a dev-build (read: by you) title game for 12.0, and extend the competition a bit and add that to 12.1?
10:07:11 <TrueBrain> as it seems people are either short on time or it is massive more work for them to make title games :)
10:08:11 <michi_cc> Multi-stream to OTTD Twitch, too? :)
10:08:55 <nielsm> sure, if you give me a stream key
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11:39:26 <peter1138> Who even streams on Youtube... :p
11:39:39 <TrueBrain> gatekeeping where people stream? :o
11:40:04 <peter1138> No just asking who!
11:40:45 <nielsm> all the vtubers I watch do
11:41:15 <nielsm> (who tend to get thousands of concurrent viewers and way too much money thrown at them)
11:42:00 <nielsm> but I did get something made
11:42:19 <peter1138> They would do if they are "vtubers" I guess.
11:42:56 <peter1138> It's kinda in the name.
11:43:26 <nielsm> nah you can call yourself that even if your presence is entirely on twitch
11:43:41 <nielsm> (or billibilli for the chinese ones)
11:58:12 <TrueBrain> I am trying to figure out why a CancelledError isn't propagating correctly in asyncio ... this is annoying :P
11:58:45 <TrueBrain> print-debugging only brings you so far
11:58:53 <TrueBrain> I rarely have that with prints alone I can't figure out what is going on :)
12:02:00 <TrueBrain> on shutdown one of the tasks isn't stopping, and something is preventing that .... :D
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12:07:35 <owo> this is the first IRC I have seen in my life
12:08:51 <nielsm> (it's difficult to respond to that when IRC as a technology/protocol is over 30 years old in practice by now)
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12:24:37 <Rubidium> imagine someone seeing toilets for the first time ;)
12:32:58 <Timberwolf> Someone produces an actual machinima in the title screen when? :)
12:35:53 <nielsm> emperorjake asked about a mode to use the same system for regular savegames too, actually
12:36:18 <nielsm> and I suppose it'd be nice just for testing the title screen, if there was an easy way to switch that
12:36:24 <nielsm> like a console command
12:36:26 <TrueBrain> make a console command :P
12:36:39 <TrueBrain> make your gamescript do it!
12:37:12 <TrueBrain> make it possible! Good for tutorials too :D
12:37:46 <nielsm> the GS can center the screen on a tile, but it can't know what screen size you have so it can't do the edge or corner alignments
12:38:12 <nielsm> and centering like that causes the game to pan to the site quickly instead of an instant cut, I think
12:38:55 <nielsm> and I don't think it'd be realistic to have it actually perform a pan, I think that would cross some threshold or something
12:40:38 <nielsm> I think what would be better would be a simulated title screen, where it hides the menu and statusbars and puts up a main menu sized window that instead has just a button to go back to normal
12:41:01 <TrueBrain> all I can say, I can see that a tutorial GS would like similar functionality :)
12:47:00 <nielsm> a tutorial GS would benefit from a way to highlight a group of tiles
12:47:35 <nielsm> and maybe put bigger blobs of text on the landscape than regular signs are
13:00:11 <TrueBrain> hmm, the TURN statistics are a bit optimistic
13:00:17 <TrueBrain> usage-time is counted for both sides
13:00:23 <TrueBrain> so basically: it is twice the correct value :P
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13:06:17 <TrueBrain> right, I can fix that in the graphs
13:09:19 <Samu> im unable to use hexchat to connect to oftc irc
13:09:35 <Samu> Connection failed (certificate has expired.? (10))
13:09:43 <Samu> anyone knows what this is?
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13:10:21 <nielsm> or maybe if they use a Let's Encrypt cert you need to update your own root certificate store
13:11:18 <nielsm> I think hexchat might be shipping its own root cert store instead of using windows' built-in
13:11:25 <nielsm> so you may need to update the client
13:13:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain opened pull request #64: Fix: race condition when a client aborts just at the wrong moment https://git.io/J23Ay
13:13:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain opened pull request #65: Fix: don't give up on the same connection more than once https://git.io/J23AQ
13:14:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #9589: Fix #9588, 140a96b: [Squirrel] Reaching memory limit during script registration could prevent further script detections https://git.io/Jgb7k
13:14:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 closed issue #9588: [Bug]: OpenTTD can think that no AI or GS are available if `Maximum memory allocation exceeded` https://git.io/Jgfn9
13:15:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] glx22 commented on pull request #64: Fix: race condition when a client aborts just at the wrong moment https://git.io/J23xt
13:15:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain opened pull request #66: Fix: ensure that if a coroutine is cancelled, it always stops https://git.io/J23xq
13:15:26 <FLHerne> glx: I'm surprised and impressed that someone cared to fix that :D
13:15:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain updated pull request #64: Fix: race condition when a client aborts just at the wrong moment https://git.io/J23Ay
13:15:39 <Samu> ok, i got 2.14.3 installed, but I see there's a 2.16.0, gonna see if that solves
13:15:57 <TrueBrain> meh, the moment that "commit suggestion" isn't enough
13:15:58 <FLHerne> Usually everyone sees OOM as "well get more RAM, or don't do that"
13:16:06 <glx> FLHerne: the major issue was it could crash openttd at start
13:16:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain updated pull request #64: Fix: race condition when a client aborts just at the wrong moment https://git.io/J23Ay
13:17:35 <Samu_> check for updates was always telling me i was running the latest version, 2.14.3
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13:18:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain updated pull request #66: Fix: ensure that if a coroutine is cancelled, it always stops https://git.io/J23xq
13:18:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain merged pull request #64: Fix: race condition when a client aborts just at the wrong moment https://git.io/J23Ay
13:18:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain merged pull request #65: Fix: don't give up on the same connection more than once https://git.io/J23AQ
13:20:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain updated pull request #66: Fix: ensure that if a coroutine is cancelled, it always stops https://git.io/J23xq
13:20:14 <TrueBrain> grrr, sometimes splitting up your branch into several PRs is annoying :P
13:21:15 <glx> you can also use a multi commit PR
13:22:10 <TrueBrain> bad for the changelog :)
13:22:31 <TrueBrain> and this way I found several typos and weird things, so it is for the better :)
13:22:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain merged pull request #66: Fix: ensure that if a coroutine is cancelled, it always stops https://git.io/J23xq
13:23:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain opened pull request #67: Add: implement graceful shutdown to clean up open sockets https://git.io/J23h8
13:24:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain updated pull request #67: Add: implement graceful shutdown to clean up open sockets https://git.io/J23h8
13:25:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain merged pull request #67: Add: implement graceful shutdown to clean up open sockets https://git.io/J23h8
13:26:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain opened pull request #68: Add: updates TURN usage stats as we go, instead of on-connection-close https://git.io/J23jq
13:27:16 <TrueBrain> right, hopefully this fixes a bunch of issues sentry found; nothing was a real issue, this is just nicer :D
13:27:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain merged pull request #68: Add: updates TURN usage stats as we go, instead of on-connection-close https://git.io/J23jq
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14:07:56 <andythenorth> flat docks then?
14:14:56 <peter1138> I updated my PR the other day. I will test if it still runs...
14:17:43 <andythenorth> I need a new reason to not work on unfinished grfs
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15:34:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kneekoo opened issue #9590: [Bug]: strgen should be integrated with the translation system https://git.io/J2ZMG
15:34:52 <glx> I think I know what happens in #9548, I just need to confirm it with a test ai
15:35:19 <nielsm> hmm... would it be realistic to let openttd itself load text format translations? instead of compiled
15:36:04 <nielsm> (translations for AI/GS are already loaded from text format)
15:41:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #9590: [Bug]: strgen should be integrated with the translation system https://git.io/J2ZMG
15:45:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #9590: [Bug]: strgen should be integrated with the translation system https://git.io/J2ZMG
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15:53:56 <glx> oh I found another bug with my test AI
15:54:39 <glx> recent changes made it possible, and visible
15:56:13 <glx> easy to fix, let's retry to reproduce #9548
15:59:49 <glx> hmm ok still not reproduced, but possibly found another leak
16:01:07 <nielsm> glx: how about (somehow) extending eints to support translating both the main branch and a release branch at the same time?
16:01:19 <nielsm> every string is marked with which branches it's valid for when you are on it
16:01:37 <glx> I don't really know eints internal
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16:11:22 <glx> ok my test seems to confirm what happens in #9548, it's a realloc reaching the memory limit, with old pointer freed and new pointer discarded, and on cleaning an access to old pointer is made
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16:23:13 <Rubidium> maybe replace realloc with malloc, memcpy, free instead? Though then things might hit memory limits faster
16:23:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kneekoo commented on issue #9590: [Bug]: strgen should be integrated with the translation system https://git.io/J2ZMG
16:24:42 <glx> should not affect memory limit detection
16:28:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened issue #9591: [Bug]: Building a water object on a plain water docking tile does not correctly remove the docking tile https://git.io/J2cXx
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16:46:50 <LordAro> glx: clearly should use new/delete/automatic allocation instead ;)
16:48:34 <glx> and of course accounting is broken
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17:55:44 <Samu_> if (IsPossibleDockingTile(t)) CheckForDockingTile(t);
17:55:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #9592: Fix #9548, e5fedcd: [Squirrel] Crash during engine cleanup after reaching memory limit on realloc https://git.io/J2lzC
17:55:59 <Samu_> missing at line 125 object_cmd.cpp
17:56:44 <glx> oh no another bump needed for docking tiles :)
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17:57:36 <dP> hm... is it a regression if missing newgrf crashes 12.0 but not 1.11.2?
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18:00:11 <dP> also it's kinda weird in general that missing newgrf can crash the game on load
18:04:27 <LordAro> dP: that's a regression, yes
18:05:21 <LordAro> also, probably #9562 ?
18:06:28 <dP> Error: Assertion failed at line 227 of /home/pavels/Projects/cmclient/src/road.h: roadtype < ROADTYPE_END
18:07:14 <LordAro> doesn't look like it, no
18:13:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9592: Fix #9548, e5fedcd: [Squirrel] Crash during engine cleanup after reaching memory limit on realloc https://git.io/J2ljp
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18:18:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl opened issue #9593: [Bug]: Assertion fails when loading the save while missing a newgrf https://git.io/J28qA
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18:38:12 <TrueBrain> right, lets see if that results in less sentry errors :D
18:46:38 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
18:46:57 <TrueBrain> I love how it produced a sentry report minutes after deployment :P
18:53:41 <TrueBrain> I think the report is just a side-effect of the redeployment .. which should be solved from 1.4.0 onwards .. lets see if that is actually the case, and wait to see if it happens again :)
18:53:51 <TrueBrain> I love Sentry for that .. you just mark it as "let me know when it happens again"
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18:58:14 <Samu_> ah, i see the desync outputs to a fil
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19:08:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #9592: Fix #9548, e5fedcd: [Squirrel] Crash during engine cleanup after reaching memory limit on realloc https://git.io/J2lzC
19:13:56 <glx> dP: asserts are disabled in 1.11.2
19:14:30 <dP> I didn't use official build
19:15:32 <dP> though I've long forgot how I compiled mine
19:18:16 <dP> guess they would still be disabled since I used source package
19:18:24 <dP> so, yeah, may be the case too
19:19:02 <dP> anyway, it feels like a bug that game asserts just on game load
19:19:24 <dP> but dunno if that's considered normal since it gives a custom message
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19:25:44 <TrueBrain> lets see if we can not forget that for 12.0 :P
19:31:24 <Samu_> I still don't understand why the desync detector catches station docking mismatch only when placing objects and not when doing something similar such as bombing or leveling terrain
19:50:13 <Samu_> alright, got it, no more desync warning
19:51:11 <dP> placing objects consumes random, terraforming doesn't
19:54:04 <Samu_> it's because placing objects on water don't really run CMD_LANDSCAPE_CLEAR at all
20:04:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #9594: Fix #9591: Update station docking tiles upon placing a water object on a docking tile https://git.io/J2RyN
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20:08:33 <glx> oh removing object doesn't clear water either
20:09:16 <Samu_> I wasn't even sure I could use IsDockingTile(t) that late into
20:10:27 <Samu_> does that mean more desyncs?
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20:46:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #9594: Fix #9591: Update station docking tiles upon placing a water object on a docking tile https://git.io/J2EID
20:47:58 <Samu_> wow, a savegame bump? wow
20:48:59 <Samu_> didn't even think of it
20:51:41 <Samu_> how should I name this SLV_
20:52:21 <nielsm> it's about repairing docking tiles, so maybe SLV_REPAIR_OBJECT_DOCKINGTILES
20:53:14 <glx> btw clear water objects are a nasty feature
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20:56:29 <Samu_> how do i comment this SLV_
20:56:40 <Samu_> got the name nielsm suggested
20:57:50 <nielsm> "Fixing issue with docking tiles overlapping objects, see issue #xxxx"
20:57:59 <glx> you can remove v12 from 298 and readd it in yours
21:02:24 <Samu_> if (st->ship_station.tile != INVALID_TILE)
21:02:52 <Samu_> and not update it unconditionaly
21:02:57 <glx> only ship stations have docking tiles
21:03:21 <Samu_> oh, that's what that is, i see
21:03:52 <Samu_> wouldn't it be better to check for facility?
21:06:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #9594: Fix #9591: Update station docking tiles upon placing a water object on a docking tile https://git.io/J2RyN
21:08:37 <Samu_> comment seems misplaced now :o damn
21:10:55 <Samu_> All tiles around docks may be docking tiles.
21:11:05 <Samu_> but that was for the other save
21:11:33 <glx> yes and before that the comment was for something else
21:13:03 <Samu_> what comment should I place there, I'm a little lost
21:23:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #9594: Fix #9591: Update station docking tiles upon placing a water object on a docking tile https://git.io/J2RyN
21:23:35 <Samu_> if there's still an issue, i'll look at it tomorrow
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21:40:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kneekoo opened issue #9595: [Bug]: Localized plural strings required in certain instances https://git.io/J2uxb
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22:05:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kneekoo opened issue #9596: [Bug]: Buggy locale in a Romanian string involving bags https://git.io/J2zHv
22:18:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kneekoo opened issue #9597: [Bug]: Badly localized string for the language name "Română" https://git.io/J2gmu
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22:36:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #9596: [Bug]: Buggy locale in a Romanian string involving bags https://git.io/J2zHv
22:40:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kneekoo commented on issue #9596: [Bug]: Buggy locale in a Romanian string involving bags https://git.io/J2zHv
22:40:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kneekoo closed issue #9596: [Bug]: Buggy locale in a Romanian string involving bags https://git.io/J2zHv
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