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00:15:10 <glx> well the arrays are initialised, but the not the SettingTable inside the arrays
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02:08:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #9414: Codechange: Split off settings.cpp into several separate files https://git.io/JcPsW
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07:46:20 <peter1138> I added dependencies to my dependency injection interface implementations. Hmm.
07:46:32 <peter1138> I heard you like... etc etc.
07:46:48 <peter1138> Hmm, HR went up to 188 yesterday. "220 - age" is somewhat bollocks :D
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07:59:59 <peter1138> Maybe I'm as fit as a 32 year old... (as if)
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10:56:31 <Samu> i'm investigating my older versions of the AI...
11:14:36 <Samu> so it seems, the issue was being "masked" by aircraft code taking most of the time
11:15:50 <Samu> more time managing aircraft routes, less road vehicle management which is where m_nearCityPairArray is used
11:16:37 <Samu> stupid "too long to save"
11:17:18 <Samu> wouldn't trigger in 100 years thx to aircraft code taking most of the time!
11:19:16 <Samu> ... but it would eventually trigger
11:24:43 <Samu> is github.com offline or what
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12:43:11 <Rubidium> glx: thanks for the possible solution. Are you allowed to push that to my branch? Or do I need to do some gymnastics to get it accredited to you when pushing it myself?
12:51:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #9414: Codechange: Split off settings.cpp into several separate files https://git.io/Jc6h3
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13:04:05 <andythenorth> eh is that frosch123? :)
13:04:17 <andythenorth> and it's not evening time
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15:49:31 <Samu> i saved a value that was saved as 4297851088
15:50:01 <Samu> but when it is loaded, it's only 2883792
15:51:56 <Samu> where in the code is openttd saving ai data
15:56:30 <glx> SaveObject and LoadObject
15:57:10 <glx> seems numbers are saved as int32
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15:59:58 <glx> probably from before we forced squirrel to be in 64 bit
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16:16:39 <glx> I think it's easy to fix, but will require a savegame bump
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16:46:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #9415: Fix 39e90ec: Integers for scripts are 64bit, but saved as 32bit https://git.io/Jc1h5
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16:51:30 <Xaroth> he came, he saw, he fixed.
16:54:16 <peter1138> My computer just said it encountered a problem and needs to restart in 1 minute, please save everything...
16:54:21 <peter1138> Then it restarted. Hard.
16:54:50 <nielsm> windows? make sure to check the event log
16:54:51 <peter1138> It did as it said it would.
16:55:00 <nielsm> it might point out what was going on
16:55:26 <peter1138> It booted back up with "Updating (100% complete)" then rebooted again...
16:55:54 <glx> ah maybe it was installing an update
16:56:12 <glx> but usually it nicely asks for reboot
16:56:25 <peter1138> Yeah, it wasn't a normal update reboot.
16:56:42 <peter1138> It didn't do a shutdown at all, it was a reset.
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16:59:48 <peter1138> A corrected hardware error has occurred.
16:59:48 <peter1138> Component: PCI Express Root Port
16:59:48 <peter1138> Error Source: Advanced Error Reporting (PCI Express)
16:59:56 <peter1138> Seems to be about 1 minute before it rebooted, so...
17:00:04 <peter1138> But a corrected hardware error would mean it's corrected.
17:00:37 <Wolf01> Task failed succesfully
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17:04:56 <peter1138> Misread, it wasn't that.
17:05:19 <peter1138> The previous system shutdown at 5:45:29 PM on 7/6/2021 was unexpected.
17:06:34 <peter1138> So it shut down itself... and said it was unexpected.
17:08:15 <peter1138> Comment: The system process 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe' terminated unexpectedly with status code -1073740940. The system will now shut down and restart.
17:10:01 <glx> oh it's a known issue from last year
17:11:14 <peter1138> Mine has definitely been updated since then :)
17:11:27 <peter1138> That's the error box though, yeah.
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17:27:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #9415: Fix 39e90ec: Integers for scripts are 64bit, but saved as 32bit https://git.io/JcMTc
17:29:28 * andythenorth cycled to the office and back
17:29:39 <andythenorth> as stories go, it's a cool one
17:30:02 <andythenorth> TrueBrain did you cycle to the office? o_O
17:30:35 <frosch123> oh noes, tb works again?
17:31:51 * andythenorth is going to convert irc chat about regions to some draft spec
17:32:50 <andythenorth> frosch123 there are no russian doll 'related objects' currently for variable access? e.g. no parents with a parent?
17:33:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcMka
17:33:35 <frosch123> there is industrytile->industry->town
17:33:41 <frosch123> but the town is not accessible from the tile
17:33:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcMkK
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17:34:16 <andythenorth> so industry tile couldn't read town storage
17:34:23 <andythenorth> but industry could, and copy the values in
17:34:39 <andythenorth> tiles aren't a real use case :P
17:34:55 <andythenorth> the case is if we had regions, which might be a parent to a town
17:37:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #9415: Fix 39e90ec: Integers for scripts are 64bit, but saved as 32bit https://git.io/Jc1h5
17:44:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcVdQ
17:49:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcMtJ
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17:49:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #9415: Fix 39e90ec: Integers for scripts are 64bit, but saved as 32bit https://git.io/JcMtO
17:51:58 <Samu> stupid squirrel, (bestRoutesBuilt & 3) is a bool
17:52:29 <glx> should be a number, as it's a bitwise &
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18:06:25 <andythenorth> glx I'll get some feedback from discord about procedures docs :)
18:22:45 <Samu> nevermind, I was looking at this wrong
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18:50:41 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:01:18 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: pfft, I am not like some other people in this channel
19:01:33 <TrueBrain> from time to time I use a bike to get from A to B, sure .. but I do not cycle
19:01:41 <Rubidium> only cycling you do is power cycling?
19:02:11 <TrueBrain> I don't many non-bike-countries don't understand how much of a difference there is between cycling and taking your bike :P
19:02:52 <peter1138> I understand but many people really really really object to the difference for some reason.
19:03:20 <TrueBrain> only people who don't understand what they are talking about, I am sure :)
19:03:25 <TrueBrain> for those people a BBQ and a grill is also the same
19:05:00 <andythenorth> TrueBrain do you not have special cycling clothes and stuff?
19:06:09 <TrueBrain> thinking I am that athletic is .. unwise :P
19:06:12 <LordAro> might as well not even bother
19:06:25 <Rubidium> do rain pants count as special cycling clothes?
19:06:35 <glx> I can't remember the last time I used a bike
19:09:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #9415: Fix 39e90ec: Integers for scripts are 64bit, but saved as 32bit https://git.io/Jc1h5
19:09:30 <TrueBrain> I use my bike at least once a week
19:09:35 <glx> I think it was at least 15 years ago
19:09:38 <TrueBrain> but not for those crazy distances LordAro and peter1138 do :P
19:09:51 <TrueBrain> I just bike for like 5km to my parents, and a few hours I peddle back
19:11:21 <LordAro> i did... 50 times that
19:11:50 <glx> hmm squash or rebase for #9413 ?
19:11:52 <TrueBrain> I rest my case: I do not cycle :D
19:14:56 <glx> probably rebase, easier to see what it did in the future
19:15:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #9414: Codechange: Split off settings.cpp into several separate files https://git.io/Jc6h3
19:15:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #9414: Codechange: Split off settings.cpp into several separate files https://git.io/JcMWt
19:15:59 <TrueBrain> still no clue what is really causing this, but what-ever
19:16:13 <glx> haha now it will be a "who merge first" :)
19:17:10 <glx> at least translation unit should be smaller now
19:18:09 <glx> and there's some decoupling too
19:19:22 <glx> Rubidium: I'll let you merge first, I'm used to rebasing my stuff ;)
19:32:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #9414: Codechange: Split off settings.cpp into several separate files https://git.io/Jc6h3
19:39:55 <TrueBrain> right, lets tomorrow see if I can link the old master-server to the new game-coordinator .. should be possible :D
19:40:36 <TrueBrain> I think we no longer request the NewGRFs used on the master-server
19:40:49 <TrueBrain> so there might be a bit loss of data when looking at those entries from the game-coordinator
19:40:51 <TrueBrain> but .. what can you do!
19:41:26 <TrueBrain> if you talk to the game-coordinator, you cannot join them anyway
19:41:52 <TrueBrain> (as they talk to the master-server, and as such are pre 1.12 :P )
19:46:55 <glx> empty means return calculated value, as any switch
19:48:02 <glx> just be careful, it's a 15 bit value ;)
19:48:22 <TrueBrain> he is just 1 bit from being full grown!
19:48:28 <TrueBrain> don't think any less of him plz
19:49:23 <glx> and hard 32 to 15 conversion, without any sign check
19:51:18 <glx> ok first conflict solved, builds and run fine
19:51:40 * andythenorth never really understood nml :)
19:51:58 <glx> it's same as NFO in this case
19:51:58 <andythenorth> I just copy-paste the stuff other people wrote :)
19:52:14 <andythenorth> it's funny that I'm now the docs author
19:52:56 <andythenorth> in the country of the blind, even a one-eyed man can be king :P
19:56:15 <TrueBrain> I always found that really offensive :P
19:56:19 <TrueBrain> like a blind person cannot be king!
19:57:09 <glx> oh blind person can, but one-eyed has an advantage ;)
19:57:20 <TrueBrain> that is not what the saying says ;)
20:00:10 <glx> second conflicting commit fixed too, now there should be a third one
20:01:27 <Timberwolf> The monarch's constitutional duty is to visually identify things.
20:01:57 <TrueBrain> pfffffffffff, who made you king over what a monarch is :P
20:02:13 <Timberwolf> If you are a British citizen you can post things to Buckingham Palace and they will be returned some time later with a note attached along the lines of, "this appears to be an apple".
20:03:14 <TrueBrain> so Google AI, but oldskool?
20:04:21 <Timberwolf> Less identifying your dog as, variously, "cat", "sheep" and "sandal".
20:04:40 <TrueBrain> you mail your dog to Buckingham Palace?
20:05:09 <TrueBrain> not sure what to think of that, honestly :P
20:05:34 <Timberwolf> Technically a "large letter" according to Royal Mail.
20:05:53 <TrueBrain> "dead on arrival" gets another meaning :P
20:06:12 <glx> it's the original meaning
20:08:49 * Timberwolf gets distracted by the game of "what can you enter as a Google Photos search term and still get your dog?"
20:09:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 dismissed a review for pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcMtJ
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20:09:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcVdQ
20:09:55 <glx> was way easier than all TrueBrain's commits ;)
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20:13:35 <glx> <andythenorth> it's funny that I'm now the docs author <-- because nobody else wants to do it
20:16:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcM0X
20:29:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #9413: Codechange: Introduce and use ChunkHandler sub-classes https://git.io/JcVdQ
20:37:04 <andythenorth> in the actual story the man with sight doesn't really do so well
20:37:16 <andythenorth> the blind people kind of dismiss the idea that he can see
20:56:17 <TrueBrain> haha, that is really hard to proof indeed :D
20:56:28 <TrueBrain> predict where they are going to walk into :P
21:04:03 <andythenorth> they already know though :)
21:04:08 <andythenorth> so that doesn't impress them
21:04:53 <andythenorth> they have an entire mini-civilisation without needing to see
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21:59:43 <peter1138> Table Name: Consortia, Plural Name: Consortias.
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