IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2021-03-18
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00:00:07 <TrueBrain> but I think I can do a bit better, by making the drift-check not based on count, but on time
00:00:16 <TrueBrain> so basically, it sleeps for 2ms
00:00:21 <TrueBrain> gameloop notices it missed N frames
00:00:27 <TrueBrain> sleeps again for 2ms
00:00:31 <TrueBrain> makes a very unstable gamespeed
00:00:39 <TrueBrain> but .. at least it is not spinlocking like a mofo
00:01:20 <TrueBrain> I now allow this drift for 5 frames .. but .. 5 frames of 80us
00:01:26 <TrueBrain> is still greatly smaller than 2ms :D
00:02:27 <TrueBrain> currently, if the drift is more than 5 frames, it just says: what-ever, I am going to act like I will make my deadlines from now on! :P
00:03:09 <TrueBrain> basically, for Windows, at a certain point we just have to forget about sleep_for :P
00:03:44 <TrueBrain> I will see if I can make a nice fix for this this weekend .. difficult problem
00:06:06 <TrueBrain> oops, WIN32 -> _WIN32 for my fix
00:13:42 <TrueBrain> well, with my patch you can get to ~400x at 50k% (max)
00:13:49 <TrueBrain> better, not good :)
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08:23:05 <andythenorth> what if there was a way to mark newgrf action 2 chain as safe to cache?
08:23:34 <andythenorth> e.g. as author I know that some vehicles will change appearance when built in depot, but never again
08:23:44 <andythenorth> others need to change only when loading / unloading
08:24:10 <andythenorth> or if I could cache some persistent storage, I could avoid running complex varact 2 on every paint
08:24:47 <andythenorth> in crude tests, Horse is 30% slower to draw than vanilla vehicles, and some of the stupid things I do are 60% slower
08:24:56 <andythenorth> using ffwd as a measure
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08:52:09 <LordAro> andythenorth: would need actual profiling, but doesn't seem like a bad idea
09:24:53 <Timberwolf> I think JGR was trying that, it has a list of possible triggers that could cause an action 2 chain to need re-resolving.
09:25:03 <peter1138> FML. I need to get back out on the bike, A LOT.
09:25:03 <Timberwolf> It's global and not profiled per GRF/vehicle though.
09:27:07 <peter1138> Also shut up, tummy.
09:32:04 <andythenorth> mine talks a lot
09:32:08 <andythenorth> about wanting hula hoops
09:33:34 * andythenorth time for all-day-video-calls
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09:46:40 <peter1138> I worked out how to make the OpenTTD website look a bit more modern.
09:46:59 <peter1138> Just zoom it in to make everything massive.
09:52:01 <LordAro> it does feel a bit obnoxious, doesn't it?
09:58:43 <Timberwolf> You need at least one element that never loads because the microservice it talks to is down or over capacity.
10:06:17 <NGC3982> the openttd site is quite modern
10:14:11 <Timberwolf> Oh, and desktop notifications. That's an important aspect of modern design, you need to wait until someone's in the middle of concentrating on something and surprise them with a sudden, "*bling-tink!* OpenTTD has published a new article!"
10:15:55 <peter1138> And requesting your location.
10:23:47 <NGC3982> that is a horrible invention
10:36:37 <Wolf01> It's really nice, but it's about the 5th time they submit one and does not pass the 10k or is not selected after getting to it
10:38:21 <peter1138> Yeah. This person did one before but it was somewhat monstrous.
10:39:40 <Wolf01> The one in the last batch was perfect, but it was discarded (along with the other 35 creations which passed)
10:40:52 <Wolf01> The main problem is getting the rights, and iirc Pratchet's family is not giving rights anyone
10:42:16 <peter1138> Okay, I won't share models I think are cute. And I'll just vote Tory next time because everyone else does.
12:10:20 <peter1138> Feeling peckish, decide packet of crisps is too much for a snack, so have a Krisproll instead. Except slavered with marmite peanut butter, so oops.
12:10:28 <peter1138> And THEN... oh right, it's lunch time anyway, nearly.
12:52:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on issue #8871: SDL2/Linux: OpenGL: Window sometimes filled with unitialised pixels at startup https://git.io/Jqjv9
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13:06:20 <peter1138> how confident do you feel in using each of these systems:
13:06:37 <peter1138> Are they asking how I *feel* about using them?
13:07:14 <peter1138> Is "I'm not confident using this program because I know it inside out and it's a heap of shit" a 1 or a 10?
13:08:31 <peter1138> How confident am I at using Powerpoint or Word?
13:08:51 <peter1138> Well... I mean, I never have to use them becuase I have superior alternatives, such as plain text files.
13:33:36 <Eddi|zuHause> if you apply dunning-kruger, confidence is probably inversely proportional to proficience
14:29:54 <supermop_Home> Eddi|zuHause what if you are confident that you understand your own lack of ability
14:30:14 <Eddi|zuHause> the universe implodes
14:44:54 <Wolf01> I am totally confident that I understand my severe lacking of ability in almost all fields, still try to do something
14:45:43 <Wolf01> The problem is when people get angry because I'm not able to do it as they want
14:47:02 <Wolf01> The worst problem is when I get angry about the same reason, and I knew it in advance
14:47:21 <Timberwolf> Anyone else ever work in an office where half your co-workers would send you screenshots by pasting them into a Word document and then e-mailing them, or was that just me?
14:47:36 <Wolf01> No, it's the normal way
14:48:20 <Wolf01> Because you can open the document and enlarge the screenshot then...
14:48:30 <Wolf01> Maybe before printing it
14:48:47 <Wolf01> (specially in black and white)
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15:02:30 <Venemo> Timberwolf: hey, just wanted to thank you for making the UK road vehicles set, it is lovely. I'm curious, would you consider releasing a version of it that supports 4x zoom levels?
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15:35:11 <Timberwolf> I did that with v2 but the models aren't really good enough to support 4x, you just start seeing voxel jaggies rather than pixel jaggies.
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16:40:08 <Venemo> Timberwolf: I just took a quick look at v2, I admit it's not perfectly smooth but it does look a lot better zoomed in than v3
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16:51:12 <Venemo> also, different question, where can I reach the CZTR guys?
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18:52:41 <supermop_Home> somehow its taking me like 20 hours to add icons to purchase menu sprites
18:57:42 <andythenorth> that sounds valid
18:57:51 <andythenorth> I take 20 hours to choose a train name sometimes
18:58:36 <supermop_Home> of course it took completely reformatting my sprites, and the nomenclature for my pngs
18:59:10 <supermop_Home> i think i still do not have a plant fiber truck
18:59:17 <supermop_Home> better add that while im at it
19:04:06 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:17:44 <andythenorth> should we discuss my newgrf alternative var 41 on the livestream?
19:17:50 <andythenorth> the one with the massive loop unroll?
19:18:05 <andythenorth> that seems to reduce performance by 50% or some similar number
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20:53:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened issue #8873: GUI sprites incorrectly affected by setting to limit NewGRF sprite resolution https://git.io/JmwUJ
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21:44:44 <TrueBrain> Timberwolf: your Discord handle also Timberwolf?
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21:57:54 <TrueBrain> before I assign permissions to a random stranger :P
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22:13:51 <TrueBrain> frosch123: sunday evening test-run for livestream? Just to make sure your new webcam etc works :P
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22:23:54 <frosch123> sure, do we have that video proxy again?
22:24:27 <TrueBrain> At least, didn't ask, just assuming :D
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