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10:06:40 <TrueBrain> funny, to automate Steam uploads, you need to do some tricks
10:06:44 <TrueBrain> as they do not have API keys
10:06:50 <TrueBrain> an account can get a 2FA challenge
10:07:07 <TrueBrain> cannot believe they do not have API keys :P
10:08:39 <TrueBrain> so what you have to do, is enable 2FA via "mobile", but with a desktop app
10:08:46 <TrueBrain> which can export the shared secret the 2FA is based on
10:08:58 <TrueBrain> and use a nodejs library to generate 2FA challenges based on that
10:09:14 <TrueBrain> always fine, if you need 3rd party software to do authentication in an automated way :P
10:14:02 <TrueBrain> no active projects on GitHub that are public automatically upload to Steam
10:14:07 <TrueBrain> that .. doesn't sound promising :P
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10:18:28 <LordAro> it wouldn't be unreasonable to have "upload x y z binaries to steam" as part of the release process :p
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10:40:26 <TrueBrain> if it is not part of the release process, it will be annoying as fuck :P So I am going to do the weird 3rd party way
10:40:28 <TrueBrain> but boy .. weird it is
11:25:57 <TrueBrain> "Note that the 'default' branch can not be set live automatically. That must be done through the App Admin panel." <- so what-ever we do, for official releases, someone has to login and press a button
11:30:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #8641: Feature: [Actions / CMake] support for generic linux builds https://git.io/JtgPU
11:31:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain merged pull request #8641: Feature: [Actions / CMake] support for generic linux builds https://git.io/Jtzxl
11:31:39 <TrueBrain> very curious how this will go over time :)
11:32:08 <Wolf01> You can't automate everything :(
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11:47:48 <TrueBrain> well, we could, but that would get really dirty :P
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11:49:40 <TrueBrain> okay, locally I can now upload nightlies, and even automatically put them live
11:49:43 <TrueBrain> so that is something :D
12:25:07 <orudge> Is Valve going to have to approve each build?
12:42:49 <TrueBrain> the review, I guess, is only to make sure you have something real, instead of a copy/paste from some tutorial
12:42:53 <TrueBrain> the issue Steam had in the past :P
13:10:42 <TrueBrain> okay, the Linux version on Steam also works for other people that use Steam more often
13:55:07 <Wolf01> Interesting FFF, btw I would have expected they announced to work on a new different game
13:56:27 <Wolf01> Also I might want to find a new workplace
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13:57:48 <TrueBrain> not related, I assume :D
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14:00:42 <Wolf01> It's related with "starting a new game"
14:02:31 <Wolf01> I am really frustrated with my current job
14:09:51 <supermop_Home_> well finally someone answered on forum, but apparently you can't set the size of bounding boxes for catenary at all?
14:31:02 <TrueBrain> you got to love 30 minutes between tests :P
14:31:10 <TrueBrain> this is not a lengthy process at all
14:31:17 <TrueBrain> I blame orudge for macos-universal taking most time :)
14:41:44 <glx> I had some fun with cmake and ICU related to minimal version bump
14:41:59 <glx> since 3.7 cmake provides a FindICU
14:42:20 <glx> the doc is full of error and it's a pain to use
14:42:32 <TrueBrain> so we keep our own? :D
14:43:31 <glx> cmake one is supposed to set ICU_LX_FOUND but instead it's LX_FOUND
14:44:14 <glx> you can't just pass optional components in the find call, you also need to pass all other components
14:44:40 <glx> they provide targets, but only link to the component lib, not it's deps
14:45:31 <glx> I guess nobody ever used cmake one
14:45:54 <LordAro> maybe put a note in our one to prevent people from wasting time in future?
15:00:35 <supermop_Home_> is there really no way to adjust catenary bounding boxes?
15:01:04 <supermop_Home_> tragic defeat for my log flume concept
15:05:37 <TrueBrain> someone is dissapointed he cannot pay for OpenTTD on Steam ... people are weird :P
15:05:43 <TrueBrain> guess we should make "donation" DLCs :P
15:05:49 <LordAro> did you point them at the donation page?
15:09:05 <TrueBrain> not directly, as I am not sure if that is allowed on Steam
15:09:09 <TrueBrain> I just strongly hinted to it :D
15:12:16 <TrueBrain> but I guess what he refers to, is that on Steam you cannot "own" a free-to-play game
15:12:18 <TrueBrain> if you deinstall it
15:12:21 <TrueBrain> it is gone from your list
15:12:31 <TrueBrain> so people like to buy "something" of a game
15:12:34 <TrueBrain> so it sticks around
15:13:06 <TrueBrain> bit weird incentive to pay for a game :P
15:15:50 <TrueBrain> okay, Steam automation seems to work .. I just need to create an account and set it up properly ..
15:15:54 <TrueBrain> something for tomorrow :D
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15:59:21 <glx> oh finally it seems there's no need to bump minimal cmake version, just need to move policy setting before first project()
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16:04:55 <glx> yup doesn't work, if IPO detection is before project() it fails
16:05:21 <glx> makes sense as project() also sets languages
16:08:38 <supermop_Home_> TrueBrain make and sell little lapel pins?
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17:37:06 <supermop_Home_> nice TGV hauled open grain hoppers
17:38:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] frosch123 commented on issue #50: Tram building menu has some slightly incorrect images https://git.io/JtztX
17:38:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] frosch123 closed issue #50: Tram building menu has some slightly incorrect images https://git.io/JtztX
17:41:01 <supermop_Home_> opengfx+ trains should go one further and match freight wagon styles to TIM and AsiaStar instead of just passenger
17:42:38 <supermop_Home_> would be true to the spirit
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18:17:19 <TrueBrain> okay, if I did everything correctly, my action run should now publish a new version to a Steam branch ... pam pam pammmmm
18:22:38 <supermop_Home_> hi andythenorth
18:32:06 <TrueBrain> "Error: Process completed with exit code 5."
18:32:11 <TrueBrain> well, that error is very clear at least
18:35:21 <Wolf01> At least is not "Error: task failed succesfully"
18:35:40 <supermop_Home_> wait...if it is actually impossible to set bounding boxes for catenary..... this is a big problem for the front/rear catenary sprites
18:36:11 <frosch123> luckily it is not possible
18:36:22 <frosch123> exposing bounding boxes to newgrf was a mistka
18:36:29 <supermop_Home_> that means the rear poles will always have a big full tile bounding box and
18:36:33 <frosch123> they are constantly over-estimated
18:36:44 <andythenorth> I never understood the bounding box :P
18:36:52 <andythenorth> I think I set them all to constant values in FIRS
18:36:54 <frosch123> supermop_Home_: i think catenary does not even use a single bounding box
18:36:57 <andythenorth> FIRS is full of flickering sprites :P
18:37:09 <supermop_Home_> that is why my rear poles always draw over the trams etc- because i cannot set the correct small box
18:37:11 <frosch123> multiple things are merged into a single bounding box
18:38:17 <frosch123> road catenary has two sprites
18:38:23 <frosch123> one is drawn behind vehicles
18:38:32 <frosch123> it has nothing to do with bounding boxes
18:38:40 <frosch123> please, just forget that bounding boxes exist
18:38:40 <supermop_Home_> i think they are both drawn in front
18:38:52 <frosch123> the concept of bounding boxes is not helpful, for anyone
18:39:10 <supermop_Home_> because my rear sprites constantly draw over my vehicles
18:39:29 <frosch123> does it also happen with the default catenary?
18:39:57 <glx> maybe a bug in your grf, or in nml
18:41:21 <frosch123> nah, looks like nrt crap again
18:42:13 <supermop_Home_> it is always with base set
18:42:39 <frosch123> ah, sorry, it was not broken by nrt. it was always broken in ottd
18:42:46 <frosch123> and noone reported in 12 years :p
18:42:47 * glx would like to know why "rebuild all" deletes os/windows/openttd.manifest
18:43:33 <glx> but I'll check that later
18:52:51 <glx> ok list(APPEND GENERATED_SOURCE_FILES "${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/os/windows/openttd.manifest") may explain why the file is deleted when cleaning
18:54:20 <glx> and BYPRODUCTS ${GENERATED_SOURCE_FILES} is definitely the reason
19:00:50 <andythenorth> will I release FIRS 4 April 1st?
19:01:52 <frosch123> you have a livestream the night before
19:10:03 <TrueBrain> well, livestream day before or on the 1st? :D
19:10:18 <andythenorth> this livestream is all grf devs no?
19:10:44 <andythenorth> supermop_Home_ has a thing, Timberwolf will make a thing 2talltyler will make a thing
19:10:54 <TrueBrain> lol ... I used a password that was too complex to use with CLI .. it contained #, ! and @
19:12:09 <TrueBrain> (and yes, I had to enter the password on the CLI ... don't ask .. Steam ...)
19:12:19 <supermop_Home_> andythenorth my thing needs rear bounding boxes to work
19:12:34 <andythenorth> can we patch it just for the livestream?
19:12:39 <andythenorth> supermop_Home_ do it in after effects!
19:12:47 <andythenorth> do you have creative suite? :P
19:12:57 <Wolf01> Yep, I use steamcmd too for dedicated servers and stuff
19:14:01 <supermop_Home_> my regular trolley wires also need rear bounding boxes to stop drawing poles over trams
19:14:23 <Wolf01> Don't draw back poles with catenary
19:14:26 <Timberwolf> The rear catenary behaviour is a nightmare, bake it into the underlay sprite if you want rear poles :)
19:15:09 <supermop_Home_> you're breaking my heart!
19:16:18 <supermop_Home_> also underlays don't change at junctions the way catenaries do
19:16:49 <supermop_Home_> and flume needs it
19:17:48 <frosch123> Timberwolf: supermop_Home_: if it is broken for all catenaries, fix it in ottd
19:23:04 <supermop_Home_> andythenorth no aftereffects on our account
19:23:26 <andythenorth> it would be much easier than making actual newgrfs :)
19:23:29 <andythenorth> vapourware demos :)
19:23:47 <andythenorth> hmm, did we ever discuss vehicle liveries? :D
19:24:09 <andythenorth> I don' remember things
19:24:23 <supermop_Home_> looking at all the switches i put in to switch my tram liveries based on year
19:24:55 <supermop_Home_> it would be nice to just pick those out of a list, but then i wouldn't get to hide secret ones as easter eggs
19:28:20 <supermop_Home_> hmm locked myself out of my GitHub account
19:35:14 <TrueBrain> \o/ it just automatically uploaded binaries to Steam \o/
19:35:22 <TrueBrain> so cute, a 3 MiB update :D
19:35:33 <andythenorth> did I try doing liveries as just extra vehicles (repeating identical stats, different liveries)?
19:35:39 <andythenorth> discord was really angry with me
19:35:48 <andythenorth> and the randomisation of reliability etc kicked in
19:36:18 <TrueBrain> _dp_ / orudge : would you mind testing the "nightly" beta branch on Steam?
19:37:30 <andythenorth> meh I thought I had a git branch for that every-livery-is-a-different-vehicle-ID
19:38:51 <TrueBrain> and generic linux binaries are on our website too .. LordAro , mind testing if that works for you too?
19:40:51 <supermop_Home_> ok... have reset my pw twice, and it doesn't recognize my new password?
19:45:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain opened pull request #8644: Add: [Actions] Automatically upload releases to Steam https://git.io/Jt237
19:45:29 <TrueBrain> moar automation, MOAR
19:46:21 <_dp_> TrueBrain, automate fixing bugs :p
19:46:33 <TrueBrain> I can automate creating them?
19:47:10 <TrueBrain> lets agree to disagree on that
19:47:31 <frosch123> i can't find the password in that PR
19:47:50 <TrueBrain> frosch123: you sound surprised?
19:48:18 <frosch123> i just wanted to join in with the not-helpfulness :)
19:49:31 <frosch123> oh, i forgot we still had a 32bit target
19:50:11 <frosch123> we will have to kill that somewhen
19:50:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl updated pull request #8638: Feature: [GS] Allow non-question type windows to have no buttons https://git.io/JtEZG
19:55:55 <frosch123> does steam store old releases?
19:56:04 <frosch123> will they be upset if we upload new binaries every day?
19:56:17 <TrueBrain> people upload 100GB games
19:56:27 <TrueBrain> I hope our size will be fine :P
19:56:32 <TrueBrain> for the amount ... no clue
19:56:39 <TrueBrain> they will tell us sooner or later if they don't like it :D
19:57:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #8644: Add: [Actions] Automatically upload releases to Steam https://git.io/Jt2s1
19:58:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain merged pull request #8644: Add: [Actions] Automatically upload releases to Steam https://git.io/Jt237
20:05:04 <TrueBrain> frosch123: you run on Linux too right? Mind trying the nightly for linux-generic, see if that works for you too?
20:06:59 <glx> I switch to nightly branch, 5.9MB to download :)
20:21:50 <frosch123> is there some trick to put the autogenerated changelog into the nightly bundle?
20:22:06 <TrueBrain> changelog.sh in .github folder
20:22:32 <frosch123> i am kind of suprised there is a multiplayer.md in the bundle
20:22:42 <TrueBrain> it used to be in docs/
20:22:48 <TrueBrain> which was even more weird :D
20:27:50 <TrueBrain> I did not expect it to happen, but I managed to make a generic linux binary after all :P
20:28:11 <TrueBrain> the biggest mindfuck, looking back, is how retarded fluidsynth links to stuff
20:28:36 <TrueBrain> when I found out to minimize his deps, things became easier :D
20:28:56 <frosch123> their existence amuses me greatly :)
20:31:09 <frosch123> also, the amount of people who think this is the original ttd music
20:31:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] embeddedt commented on pull request #8355: Add: support for emscripten (play-OpenTTD-in-the-browser) https://git.io/Jt2Zl
20:32:29 <frosch123> oh, there is iculx in it
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20:36:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #8355: Add: support for emscripten (play-OpenTTD-in-the-browser) https://git.io/Jt2Zw
20:36:39 <TrueBrain> frosch123: yes :D CentOS still has ICU with lx :)
20:36:42 <TrueBrain> which made me really happy :)
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20:44:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] embeddedt commented on pull request #8355: Add: support for emscripten (play-OpenTTD-in-the-browser) https://git.io/Jt2Z9
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22:29:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #8645: Fix: [CMake] os/windows/openttd.manifest is not a generated file https://git.io/Jt2lB
22:31:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8645: Fix: [CMake] os/windows/openttd.manifest is not a generated file https://git.io/Jt2l0
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22:41:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #8641: Feature: [Actions / CMake] support for generic linux builds https://git.io/Jt2lN
22:41:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #8645: Fix: [CMake] os/windows/openttd.manifest is not a generated file https://git.io/Jt2lB
22:42:36 <TrueBrain> nielsm: interesting ... and completely unexpected honestly :)
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22:47:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain opened pull request #8646: Codechange: [Actions] Document better why we build our own fluidsynth https://git.io/Jt28q
22:47:58 <TrueBrain> nielsm: please review ^^ :)
22:48:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh approved pull request #8646: Codechange: [Actions] Document better why we build our own fluidsynth https://git.io/Jt28s
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22:56:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain merged pull request #8646: Codechange: [Actions] Document better why we build our own fluidsynth https://git.io/Jt28q
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23:32:46 <supermop_Home_> hmm GitHub says my account has been flagged
23:48:03 <supermop_Home_> and the issue i opened is not showing up
23:48:56 <supermop_Home_> (it shows up for me when i am logged in, but not when i view the issues in another browser not logged in)
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23:54:00 <supermop_Home_> am i not allowed to open issues or something?
23:54:06 <glx> what did you do to github ?
23:54:15 <LordAro> nothing we did, you'll have to work it out with github
23:54:52 <supermop_Home_> idk i submitted a support request
23:55:31 <supermop_Home_> our account has been flagged.
23:55:31 <supermop_Home_> Because of that, your profile is hidden from the public.
23:55:47 <glx> yup you need to contact github
23:56:37 <supermop_Home_> who flagged my account? ive like never done anything on here before
23:56:48 <glx> I guess you don't have 2FA activated ?
23:57:01 <LordAro> could conceivably been hacked
23:57:42 <glx> maybe they noticed strange access to your account yes
23:58:04 <glx> but better talk with github, I think they'll explain
23:59:04 <supermop_Home_> well turned on 2 factor
continue to next day ⏵