IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-05-21
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00:41:33 <supermop_Home> if i need to deliver food to a town per GS
00:41:54 <supermop_Home> and it gets delivered to an industry that accepts food (like a store)
00:43:33 <supermop_Home> is the town that gets the food based on the name of the industry ("Town A Grocery Store" vs "City B Grocery Store"), or the name of the station it is dropped off at?
00:44:11 <supermop_Home> "Town A Central" vs "City B Sidings"?
00:45:25 <supermop_Home> because i just spent $$$ building a port in this city and the industry is "Village X Port" instead of "City Y Port" :(
00:45:31 <FLHerne> supermop_Home: My guess would be the station
00:45:39 <glx> I think it depends on town's coverage area, but it's not the station
00:45:59 <glx> it's the tile receiving the cargo
00:46:02 <FLHerne> Try it, in the name of science
00:46:58 <glx> (at least subsidies work that way, don't really know about GS)
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00:47:38 <_dp_> depends on gs, usually it goes to the town of station
00:49:03 <_dp_> at least simple cb and aphid's cb work that way iirc
01:26:35 <supermop_Home> not sure yet, as the city is still a few people short of requiring food, so the town window doesn't yet show how much food it received last month
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01:34:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly convinced it's the name of the station
01:39:39 <_dp_> Eddi|zuHause, strictly speaking it's not the name, they're just named after a town by default
01:40:17 <_dp_> but renaming station won't change anything
01:40:40 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i know that, i just omitted that detail
02:04:50 <supermop_Home> i honestly cannot remember if i usually use simple syrup in my old fashioneds….
03:56:11 <supermop_Home> it is by station name
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07:58:01 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LubosKolouch commented on issue #8101: (Streetcar) vehicles do not use all open stations/gates https://git.io/JfmVJ
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14:24:03 <Speeder> making maps is harder than I expected
14:24:14 <Speeder> I am working non-stop on my map for almost 10 days now
14:24:32 <Speeder> I wake up, go code my python script until is night, sleep...
14:26:01 <TrueBrain> Eat sleep code repeat
14:26:17 <Speeder> also I never worked with Python before
14:26:25 <Speeder> but I concluded learning python was easier than installing a compiler
14:32:50 <andythenorth> TrueBrain you got it wrong
14:32:59 <andythenorth> eat sleep spreadsheet zoom call spreadsheet repeat
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15:00:05 <supermop_Home> most of our calls are on slack
15:00:15 <supermop_Home> except for bigger cross-team ones
15:01:37 <supermop_Home> slack calls are decidedly non-great, but certainly 'good enough'...its easy to just hit the button in the channel or chat if people decide something would be resolved faster through talking or screen share
15:02:06 <supermop_Home> whereas zoom feels like this big ordeal (make sure you are dressed and look presentable)
15:02:54 <supermop_Home> and then bluejeans with the clients and outside consultants...
15:03:25 <LordAro> you don't have to share your camera :p
15:03:26 <supermop_Home> and occasionally the managing director will send a hangouts invite
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15:04:00 <supermop_Home> LordAro its weird how what is unspoken convention changes from slack to zoom to bluejeans etc
15:05:42 <supermop_Home> i guess that's what i'm getting at - the weird idiosyncrasies and context switching of remote work, even when there is no real differentiation in what you are actually doing
15:07:19 <supermop_Home> like you kinda feel like turning on the camera for zoom but not for slack
15:07:57 <supermop_Home> and if i do have the camera on in slack i may well be wearing the t shirt i slept in
15:08:19 <supermop_Home> but on zoom i wear something i'd wear to the office
15:08:42 <supermop_Home> (which still might be a t shirt, )
15:10:40 <andythenorth> I remember hangouts!
15:10:47 <andythenorth> that's a blast from the past
15:10:57 <supermop_Home> yeah, like where did that come from
15:11:09 <andythenorth> I definitely perform slightly more on Zoom for some reason
15:11:22 <andythenorth> we use whereby.com a lot, it's very informal
15:11:39 <andythenorth> I don't try to look good in the slightest, it's very just like being present
15:11:41 <supermop_Home> also no skype so far
15:12:48 <LordAro> (say what you like about it, it's so much better than SfB, or Skype itself (in a business environment))
15:13:10 <TrueBrain> and I like that they added "raise hands"
15:13:14 <TrueBrain> just to annoy who-ever is speaking :D
15:13:28 <LordAro> i've not tried that yet :)
15:13:41 <TrueBrain> custom backgrounds was already a nice way to annoy people
15:13:45 <TrueBrain> but the raise hand just made it better
15:14:06 <LordAro> i had a sales guy a few weeks back that was hosting an all-sales meeting insistenting that he had to see everyone's faces
15:14:18 <supermop_Home> i like to put a screen cap of the model/render of space i'm working on as my zoom background
15:14:19 <LordAro> had to satisfy him to with gotomeeting
15:14:22 <andythenorth> 'can you mute please'
15:14:30 <andythenorth> "YOU'RE ON MUTE!"
15:14:36 <LordAro> but now we can cancel our gotomeeting subscription entirely
15:14:46 <TrueBrain> I love it when I see my colleagues talking, not hearing them :D
15:14:58 <supermop_Home> we have so many subscriptions
15:15:16 <supermop_Home> i think we have goto for one contractor on one project
15:15:19 <TrueBrain> what I have found out, that many people do not understand the difference between headset and headphone
15:15:24 <TrueBrain> which is REALLY annoying
15:15:55 <TrueBrain> so you constantly miss the first 2 words out of every sentence when they start talking, basically :P
15:16:08 <supermop_Home> we have a lot of people who seem to not understand there are the ones causing feedback
15:16:26 <supermop_Home> because they join from they computer but then also call in
15:16:45 <supermop_Home> because the 'sound is better' but then don't mute the computer
15:17:04 <LordAro> i also like how you can just mute anyone in Teams
15:17:15 <LordAro> i've been using it quite vigorously
15:17:17 <TrueBrain> solves many issues :P
15:17:33 <supermop_Home> LordAro tbh i didn't even know goto had video beyond screen share, as i never used it
15:17:44 <TrueBrain> I have this one colleague which keeps unmuting, but is noisy as fuck .. it is a competition these days :P
15:17:57 <supermop_Home> we were trying to transition to zoom from goto even before all of this
15:19:11 <LordAro> but zoom is (or was, certainly) awful security-wise
15:20:07 <supermop_Home> but for some reason our singular it decreed that zoom is our jam last year
15:27:42 <frosch123> the other day someone failed to mute themself and then yawned "it's so boring" while some other guy was explaining stuff :)
15:28:44 <supermop_Home> a couple weeks ago here one of the supreme court justices didn't mute themselves while using the bathroom
15:29:19 <supermop_Home> at least that was audio only
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15:55:08 <frosch123> i like how my ottd mail always gets spam like "do you want to buy the domain 'buyaship.com'" or similar
15:57:23 <supermop_Home> frosch123 i think you should buy that domain
15:57:38 <supermop_Home> or the .ship TLD
15:58:40 <supermop_Home> if you download openttd for .ship, you only get ships, no trains or rvs or planes
15:59:12 <andythenorth> we owned rubbershipping.com for a bit iirc
15:59:17 <andythenorth> the domain spam we used to get :P
16:02:22 <LordAro> .aero, .build, .travel, .fly are all things
16:02:37 <LordAro> though the last two are limited to relevant companies
16:02:47 <frosch123> it's too late for .coop :)
16:02:58 <LordAro> no .ship or .train, afaict
16:03:40 <LordAro> "The .coop TLD is limited to cooperatives as defined by the Rochdale Principles."
16:03:47 <LordAro> you'd have difficulty justifying that, i think :p
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17:18:54 <andythenorth> quite cool though
17:35:13 <frosch123> animated firs farms?
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19:09:31 <supermop_Home> are custom fields for industries a thing yet?
19:57:05 <michi_cc> frosch123, nielsm: Anything more to be done for #8164, or does it just needs to marinate some more?
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19:59:36 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #8164: Change a bunch of stuff to use std::string https://git.io/Jf2fy
20:01:56 <frosch123> i have no BBQ today, so a PR will have to do
20:02:38 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #8164: Change a bunch of stuff to use std::string https://git.io/JfzLv
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22:47:23 <supermop_Home> andythenorth when does it make sense to buy a big boat instead of just a bunch of marsteins?
22:53:49 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_Home: when we add ship collision
22:54:05 <Eddi|zuHause> (or at least one-ship-per-dock)
23:05:33 <FLHerne> supermop_Home: When you have two many of the same boat and it looks dull :p
23:07:10 <Speeder> any particular reason why the patch to import rivers never got into the trunk?
23:11:56 <FLHerne> Of course, no-one's done that yet
23:20:41 <Speeder> but it says it doesn't know my OS
23:29:49 <supermop_Home> apparently surf was 6' at rockaway this morning
23:30:02 <supermop_Home> almost never that big there
23:30:16 <supermop_Home> and its going to be 3 or less all weekend
23:36:30 <Speeder> my attempt with a new install of msys2... didn't
23:36:35 <Speeder> now I am ressurecting an old install
23:36:38 <Speeder> but seemly I Can't update it
23:36:42 <Speeder> because it doesn't know what zst is :(
23:41:03 <LordAro> Speeder: you're probably using the msys window, rather than the mingw window
23:41:11 <LordAro> there is, unfortunately, an important difference
23:43:01 <Speeder> and I just broke pacman
23:43:19 <LordAro> did you read the error message carefully? :p
23:43:32 <glx> ha yes msys terminal is to compile tools for mingw32 and mingw64
23:43:36 <Speeder> pacman does not give error message anymore
23:43:36 <LordAro> i bet it told you to exit in a "weird" way
23:46:24 <LordAro> Speeder: close everything mingw/msys related (check task manager to be sure) and start it again
23:48:56 <Speeder> I did, pacman still dead
23:50:32 <Speeder> I will install it again >.<
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23:52:37 <Speeder> now it doesn't even launch Oo
23:53:12 <LordAro> well you've done something wrong :p
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