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09:07:35  <dihedral> good morning

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15:19:34  <andythenorth> what to call these in Horse? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_U_special_wagon#Well_wagons

15:19:52  <andythenorth> they were 'Supplies Cars' but I want to change refit to more than supplies

15:22:30  <nielsm> as it is? "well wagon"

15:23:43  <andythenorth> in US English 'well car' is for intermodal containers :P

15:23:53  <andythenorth> which is confusing

15:24:06  <andythenorth> they call them 'depressed center flat cars'

15:24:20  <nielsm> depressingly long name

15:24:37  <andythenorth> depressingly

15:24:42  <andythenorth> also they're not strictly flat :P

15:25:07  <andythenorth> 'heavy item car' is silly

15:25:14  <andythenorth> 'outsize load car' is silly

15:25:35  <nielsm> special load car

15:25:41  <andythenorth> machinery car

15:25:43  <andythenorth> low loader car

15:26:22  <nielsm> low center car

15:28:45  <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9215/supplies_cars_rename.png

15:29:04  <andythenorth> kind of favouring well car

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15:40:39  <planetmaker> isn't it like 'flatbed car'?

15:40:46  <planetmaker> even when it's not exactly flat?

15:41:32  <planetmaker> would be much better understandable, too (IMHO)

15:42:58  <andythenorth> might conflate with flat car :) http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#flat_car_pony_gen_1A

15:43:45  <planetmaker> from my quick wiki search the difference is (mostly) in allowed load - which is higher for the type of cars you want a name for

15:44:41  <andythenorth> US Set calls them heavy item cars

15:45:16  <andythenorth> one option is always to delete them

15:45:38  <planetmaker> well, wiki does indeed call 'well wagons'. Or most are 'schnabel wagons'

15:46:02  <planetmaker> which would imply cargotype 'oversized' :P

15:46:13  <andythenorth> tractors mostly :P

15:47:22  <andythenorth> https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/HORNBYLOWMACBUNDLE-PO_3436655_Qty1_1.jpg

15:47:36  <planetmaker> :)

15:47:44  <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowmac

15:48:21  <planetmaker> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91olaz%2BNppL._SL1500_.jpg <-- and that on it, too? ;)

15:48:26  <andythenorth> hmm, but 'low floor' wagon means rolling road in Europe

15:48:38  <andythenorth> that crane is as big as one of my kids

15:48:56  <planetmaker> I felt like buying it... for some fun over Christmas :P

15:49:10  <planetmaker> same size as my Lego Saturn V

15:49:17  <andythenorth> it's probably good, but takes up a lot of space

15:49:34  <andythenorth> the coaster is supposed to be good https://shop.lego.com/en-GB/product/Roller-Coaster-10261?ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI4Za9hdCp3wIVCp3tCh2YzQ2eEAAYASAAEgJUtvD_BwE%3AG%3As&s_kwcid=AL%21933%213%21318229157713%21b%21%21g%21%21&cmp=KAC-INI-GOOGEU-GO-GB-EN-PS-BUY-SHOP-XX-XX-RN-DSA

15:50:01  <planetmaker> he, sounds fun, too

15:50:13  <andythenorth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXbo0zq9R08

15:51:49  <planetmaker> :) yay

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15:52:35  <planetmaker> but answering your original question: I might actually not be sure they really add much... but I'm somewhat a fan of not too big sets :)

15:53:09  <andythenorth> Horse is pretty gigantic now

15:53:10  <planetmaker> if the flat cars can take over the well wagon purpose... it's something for realism people. Or for the extra variety of wagons

15:53:15  <andythenorth> it might be the biggest train set soon :P

15:53:39  <planetmaker> If you keep them ... well wagon seems most reasonable... but I'm no native speaker. And no clue how to translate it:P

15:54:05  <planetmaker> "Sonderwagen". which can be back-translated as "special wagon". Oh yeah

15:54:27  <planetmaker> oder Tiefladewagen... low-floor wagon

15:54:34  <planetmaker> but it implies heavy load

15:54:42  <andythenorth> or Rollende Landstraße

15:55:04  <planetmaker> that usually looks different... *I think*

15:55:26  <andythenorth> I'm going with well wagon :P

15:55:29  <andythenorth> it's the UIC code

15:55:33  <planetmaker> ^^

15:56:00  <planetmaker> SBB seems to market the 'rollende landstrasse' a lot

15:56:20  <planetmaker> could well be cheaper than driving through switzerland

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16:18:39  <andythenorth> 'vehicle and machinery car'

16:18:42  <andythenorth> 'machinery car'

16:18:56  <andythenorth> the loads are ENSP, FMSP, Electrical Machines, Vehicles

16:18:58  <andythenorth> maybe goods

16:20:53  * andythenorth biab

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18:33:23  <Eddi|zuHause> so, 1/2 chicken and keyboard probably don't mix well

18:36:05  <planetmaker> what about chicken-keyboard tard?

18:36:32  <planetmaker> a bit of cheese toping, 10 minutes in the oven you've got a crunchy meal :P

18:40:09  <frosch123> i gues there is no option to block devzone registration with yopmail adresses

18:44:56  <Eddi|zuHause> so i think i have successfully managed to prevent the two from interacting

18:45:32  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i can't imagine a blacklist being such deep magic...

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19:00:13  <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> a bit of cheese toping, 10 minutes in the oven you've got a crunchy meal :P <-- sounds a bit like some of the dishes in starbound

19:18:26  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: 'well car', 'machinery car', or 'depressed center car' ?? o_O

19:18:38  <Eddi|zuHause> uhm what?

19:18:55  <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_U_special_wagon#Well_wagons

19:19:57  <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't know what that word means

19:21:18  <andythenorth> machinery car?

19:23:23  <Eddi|zuHause> oversized cargo wagon?

19:23:42  <Eddi|zuHause> machinery sounds a bit too specific

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19:39:29  <andythenorth> it doesn't refit much

19:39:57  <Wolf01> So, last patch for TF

19:40:07  <Wolf01> Moving on to TF2

19:41:05  <Wolf01> Hoped for traffic lights support, but backward train driving is nice to have too

19:41:38  * andythenorth has run out of motivation for Horse

19:41:43  <andythenorth> dead Horse? :)

19:41:48  <Wolf01> Do tank horses

19:43:31  <andythenorth> tank horse

19:43:38  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: call it a release? :p

19:43:40  <andythenorth> maybe I should work on FIRS a bit

19:43:52  <andythenorth> 80% is a release :P

19:44:27  <andythenorth> I am at 74%

19:45:43  <andythenorth> if I simply delete some things, I get 80% :P

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20:03:55  <Gustavo6046> Who wants hug-snuggles?

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20:19:58  <Wolf01> Gustavo6046: are you a cat?

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20:20:55  <Samu> hi

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20:26:41  <Gustavo6046> Wolf01, no, I'm a kangaroo.

20:26:45  <Gustavo6046> A small one

20:27:02  <Wolf01> Ok, we missed that

20:35:10  <andythenorth> all animatls

20:35:19  <andythenorth> can someone finish Horse for me?

20:40:05  <Wolf01> I could finish biscuits

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22:00:01  <TrueBrain> that moment you realise you lost a script because you forgot to commit it :D

22:01:57  <nielsm> oops

22:03:58  <TrueBrain> yeah ... especially as it was Powershell, which I suck at

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22:09:31  <TrueBrain> nielsm: lolz; I am trying the Azure stuff for Windows Docker .. you cannot create a pipeline without making a commit?! :D

22:09:34  <TrueBrain> that is weird :P

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22:27:46  <TrueBrain> okay, that works .. lets see how quick/slow it is if they host it :P

22:35:29  <TrueBrain> okay, as slow as it was for me :)

22:35:39  <TrueBrain> so it was not me, that docker containers on windows are crazy slow to build :P

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