IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2018-08-30
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00:40:37 <Samu> I want the bank balance without the loan, unloan?
00:41:08 <LordAro> but if unloan is meaningful to you, it's fine :p
00:41:31 <Samu> yeah, as long as no one checks the code
00:43:34 <ST2> since when functions needs to be a word?
00:44:03 <Samu> you know what, screw this, I don't need to show costs to ppl
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00:44:34 <LordAro> Samu: fyi, i believe the correct term is "net worth"
00:44:48 <LordAro> often shortened to "net"
00:44:54 <Samu> i was doing this just to display it in the ai log
00:52:42 <Samu> right, so now I made the air component of the AI to manage the loan brilliantly
00:53:03 <Samu> but to do so, I had to break it for the road component :( gotta fix it
00:54:20 <glx> you probably need to make a loan component usable by other components
00:55:37 <Samu> i think i'm moving these to Utils.nut
00:55:55 <Samu> and make both road and air access it
00:56:36 <Samu> i didn't dig the road code enough to find all the parts where it actually spends money
00:57:59 <Samu> my main worry is to calculate an estimation beforehand
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11:12:44 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I applied 2 policies to a district and no achievement :/
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13:54:23 <Samu> 1.8.0 1.8.0 is not yet released. The following changes are not set in stone yet.
13:56:05 <LordAro> not exactly a problem
13:56:15 <LordAro> just some out of date documentation
13:56:32 <LordAro> that won't have been updated since the move to git
13:57:29 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause: what's the mod which allows to set the allowed switch to lanes? I thought I had it but it seems not
14:28:01 <Wolf01> It would be cool if it was possible to set the turn right always possible on junctions, without being controlled by traffic lights
15:03:12 <Wolf01> People are dying to live in my city, literally... I can't understand why they die so much, maybe too much noise, but even in the low traffic areas? No pollution, no diseases...
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15:28:46 <Samu> WrightAI.GetEngineOptimalDaysInTransit(engine)[0] is this a thing?
15:28:54 <Samu> local fakedist = WrightAI.GetEngineOptimalRealFakeDist(engine, WrightAI.GetEngineOptimalDaysInTransit(engine)[0]);
15:29:25 <Samu> it returns 3 values at once
15:29:43 <Samu> return [days_in_transit, best_income, best_distance];
15:29:48 <Samu> only want the first value
15:30:08 <LordAro> might want to break it up into variables though, to make it clearer what's going on
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15:37:36 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: there is a custom traffic light feature in the traffic manager mod, where you can control the phases
15:37:54 <Wolf01> Yeah, but in manual mode
15:38:33 <Wolf01> Also, how do I make horizontal bridges?
15:39:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it would be nice if you could save that as a template and apply it to more crossings
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15:40:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: i've not quite figured that out
15:41:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: i think i've seen a "more road construction options" mod, but i have not tried that
16:15:11 <Wolf01> Yeah, but not on bridges over rivers
16:15:25 <Wolf01> Or I have to build bridges piece by piece
16:15:58 <Wolf01> Also... is there a limit to land slots? I need to purchase a slot to connect to the railway... but I can't
16:25:35 <Eddi|zuHause> you get land slots as your city grows, up to a total of 9, but there are mods to unlock more (up to 25) and also one that just unlocks the whole map
16:26:39 <Eddi|zuHause> if you look at the city growth milestones, each time it says "2x2km" you get a new slot
16:39:50 <crem> Do youse git or something else for developemtn? If not, otherwise do you follow gitflow or another layout system of branches.
16:42:36 <crem> So a branch per minor release, and then cherrypick for patch releases?
16:42:49 <LordAro> no one's really sure yet
16:43:01 <LordAro> there's not been a release since the move to git
16:43:56 <crem> The canonical way is the "gitflow", but probably it's an overkill.
16:44:38 <LordAro> i wouldn't say there's a single canonical way
16:44:40 <crem> I'm trying to come up with some system for another project, while minimizing number of streams.
16:46:00 <Eddi|zuHause> crem: in the svn days there was a fork right before a 1.x.0(-RC1) release
16:46:50 <crem> Fork for a release? And then only cherrypicks came there, right?
16:48:25 <Eddi|zuHause> that's probaly fine if you only want to backport bugfixes to the 1.x.y releases, not new features
16:48:38 <crem> Do you have some file like "version.txt" in source tree?
16:49:23 <crem> If yes, I wonder what is the sequence of updating it during RC1 fork.
16:49:46 <Eddi|zuHause> version detection is a bit complicated
16:50:29 <Eddi|zuHause> but generally, after the fork of 1.x.0, in trunk there is a commit "we now head for 1.(x+1)"
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16:52:33 <Eddi|zuHause> so trunk (now master) is currently considered "1.9.0-alpha", whereas the release branch is "1.8.0"
17:08:20 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause: is there some limitation with rails? I connected 4 stations and I'm not able to set a route, it doesn't seem that there are disconnected rails
17:14:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think there is a limitation
17:15:00 <Eddi|zuHause> got to recheck the rails probably
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17:15:47 <Eddi|zuHause> are you sure you're using the rail route tool, and not bus route or something? :p
17:17:13 <Wolf01> It worked before, i paused to replace a bridge with a tunnel and it doesn't work anymore
17:19:10 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno what you're doing wrong
17:19:21 <Wolf01> Rebuilt the rail, now it works again
17:19:55 <Wolf01> I think it was because I moved it a bit with Move IT!
17:31:41 <Eddi|zuHause> could be you disconnected the rail by doing that incorrectly
17:32:21 <Wolf01> Maybe, I only straightened a bit a piece of track
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19:23:43 <PNDA> Hey, anyone know how I can deselect any Dependency on BaNaNaS for my GRF?
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23:11:50 <Samu> how do i check if a road has exactly only 1 piece?
23:12:10 <Samu> IsRoadTile doesn't help :(
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