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00:21:34 <Eddi|zuHause> what i see often wrong is that people don't use () with / because when written on paper, the / is horizontal and the () are unneded
00:21:45 <Eddi|zuHause> but this information is lost when written on one line
00:22:08 <Eddi|zuHause> a^2+b^2
00:22:10 <Eddi|zuHause> ------
00:22:13 <Eddi|zuHause> 2ab
00:22:15 <Eddi|zuHause> is clear
00:22:37 <Eddi|zuHause> but a^2+b^2/2ab is not
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00:23:11 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it is clear to me, but it's something different from what you probably meant
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12:25:26 <Etua> Hello, After reading forum and wiki I'm still not sure: after 32mbp has been moved to NewGRF is there any official development of 32mbp base graphics?
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12:55:04 <Samu> hi
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19:48:57 <andythenorth> o/
19:49:25 <supermop_work_> yo
19:51:31 <andythenorth> innit
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19:53:54 <Wolf01> o/
19:57:06 <andythenorth> lo Wolf01
19:57:25 <andythenorth> so it's finished then? o_O https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1203632#p1203632
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20:09:59 <Alberth> one happy customer :)
20:12:16 <andythenorth> probably works
20:12:20 <andythenorth> put it in trunk
20:12:26 <andythenorth> move on
20:14:37 <Wolf01> +1
20:14:49 <andythenorth> no kittens will die
20:15:18 <Wolf01> No roads were harmed while making NRT
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20:30:29 <andythenorth> Wolf01: is the assumption that frosch is the only one who might merge it?
20:30:39 <andythenorth> there are other committers...
20:31:51 <Wolf01> Yup
20:32:32 <supermop_work_> spool annd RVs need finishing this week then
20:32:51 <supermop_work_> need to be on bananas for 4/01
20:33:02 <Wolf01> Also some april fool
20:33:20 <Wolf01> Removed roads to make space for... roads?
20:34:04 <supermop_work_> gondolas and log flumes only
20:34:23 <supermop_work_> removed trains to make room for more types of canals
20:35:01 <Wolf01> BTW I would like to make a wetroads grf
20:35:23 <supermop_work_> TE = 0
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20:48:17 <andythenorth> such boats
20:48:33 <andythenorth> I don't have any small enough for two-way wetroad :P
20:48:49 <Alberth> we need kanoes!
20:49:02 <andythenorth> we need NRT in trunk :)
20:49:11 <andythenorth> also Wolf01 then we can do water features
20:49:17 <andythenorth> miscellaneous improvements
20:49:21 <Alberth> that too :)
20:53:45 <supermop_work_> can Alberth commit?
20:54:34 <Alberth> technically I can, but I won't commit code I don't understand
20:56:09 <andythenorth> we wrote it and we don't understand it
20:56:14 <andythenorth> so it's all equal
20:56:17 <Wolf01> Lol
21:02:35 <Wolf01> What about asking cirdan to become a dev?
21:05:33 <Wolf01> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=82778 lol... "Haha funny language."
21:06:28 <gelignite> :)
21:08:13 <Wolf01> Mmmh, seem to be spam day today, there are topics all around
21:11:37 <supermop_work_> vietnamese?
21:11:45 <supermop_work_> why's it funny?
21:11:54 <Wolf01> He finds it funny
21:12:09 <supermop_work_> tbh i kind of want that pallet jack
21:13:08 <supermop_work_> the spam worked on me
21:13:35 <supermop_work_> but, maybe it is a suggestion for someone to add pallet jacks to OpenTTD
21:13:45 <Wolf01> We need to translate it
21:13:49 <supermop_work_> andythenorth: pallet jack in HEQS?
21:14:47 <supermop_work_> "The cross-over lifters feature easy hand control, which will be the perfect solution for heavy and difficult workloads, allowing users to increase productivity while saving time. as well as labor costs ... Contact us through sdt 0902.970.638 for advice on support ..."
21:15:19 <andythenorth> nobody did a pallet jack already? o-O
21:15:24 * andythenorth surprised
21:16:08 <supermop_work_> i've learnt that pallet is vietnamese for pallet
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21:26:19 <andythenorth> offsets http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8874/wrong.png
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21:29:44 <andythenorth> probably not right
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21:53:32 <Wolf01> 'night
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22:37:06 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone has opinions on "surviving mars"?
22:37:23 <Eddi|zuHause> (http://store.steampowered.com/app/464920)
22:40:10 <__ln__> the idea sounds interesting
22:44:21 <andythenorth> graphics look distinctive
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23:00:00 <Etua> Hello, After reading forum and wiki I'm still not sure: after 32mbp has been moved to NewGRF is there any official development of 32mbp base graphics?
23:03:15 <andythenorth> no
23:03:28 <andythenorth> there is no official development of any newgrf
23:03:55 <Etua> Then any official development of 32mbp has been discounted?
23:04:45 <andythenorth> not discounted, just very unlikely
23:05:12 <andythenorth> it's not a goal, and nobody is working on it
23:05:31 <Eddi|zuHause> there are already some 32bpp base sets
23:05:33 <andythenorth> the CZ guys are trying for a full replacement
23:05:50 <Eddi|zuHause> but never was the intention to make any of those "official"
23:05:51 <andythenorth> and Zbase is mostly OGFX in 32bpp
23:06:48 <Eddi|zuHause> the "official" part was finished by allowing newgrf authors to make the graphics, everything else is bonus content by the community
23:07:19 <supermop_work_> Etua: there are no official graphics, 8bpp or 32bpp
23:07:46 <supermop_work_> i hope there will not be 32Mbpp ever though!
23:07:51 <Eddi|zuHause> in other news, the new HDD is now incorporated into my RAID5, resizing done, and copying of important data from the old HDD is also finished without noteworthy incidents
23:08:03 <Eddi|zuHause> so i don't think there was lasting damage to my data
23:08:20 <supermop_work_> Eddi|zuHause: need to add some disks here at work myself
23:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause> the official description at https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Growing was missing an in-between step for encrypted drives, because you need to grow the encryption container separately from the filesystem
23:11:59 <Etua> supermop_work_: Then what is the default graphics?
23:12:35 <supermop_work_> Etua: whichever base set you chose
23:13:26 <Eddi|zuHause> Etua: the game made a conscious decision to not contain graphics in the game download
23:13:53 <andythenorth> the default is ogfx
23:13:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Etua: this is why at game start it presents you with the option to download graphics, if you haven't installed them separately
23:14:24 <supermop_work_> andythenorth: i'd say ogfx is more 'easiest' than 'default'
23:14:38 <andythenorth> I'd say it's what most players have
23:14:49 <andythenorth> based on unscientific sample of screenshots
23:14:58 <supermop_work_> that doesn't make it 'official' though
23:15:09 <supermop_work_> just most common
23:15:19 <andythenorth> potato / potato :)
23:15:28 <andythenorth> but yes
23:15:38 * andythenorth should sleep
23:15:50 <supermop_work_> for a few years we seemed to see plenty of zbase in screenshots of new players asking for help
23:17:05 <supermop_work_> brb
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