IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-06-20
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00:04:30 <FLHerne> Your shell probably has an option to add the trailing / to directory names, you should enable it if it isn't already
00:04:58 <Alkel_U3> having output of ls colored might come handy, too :-)
00:07:53 <Execthts> The user dedicated for openttd didn't have a .bashrc, so the 'll' I'm used to doesn't work and I'm lazy to copy it over
00:08:12 <Execthts> btw, in what order the autosaveX.sav are overwritten?
00:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause> what's wrong with those?
00:21:37 <Execthts> nvm, renaming a file probably doesn't generate a new write time
00:21:38 <Eddi|zuHause> it always overwrites the oldest one, so next would be 5, then 6, then 7, ...
00:22:08 <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't rename
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10:57:06 <Wolf01> Mmmmh, I can't launch astroneer :|
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11:51:39 <peter1138> x-plane 10 doesn't have monitor angle correction :(
11:51:53 <peter1138> and there's no upgrade path to x-plane 11 :(
11:59:05 <Wolf01> Meh, gathered all near resources... no resources to build a rover :(
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13:57:13 <FLHerne> Youtube subtitles to anything said in a Welsh accent certainly are
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13:58:27 <FLHerne> I Eddie Betts and you will have finally unrolled for glowing under your prior and we schulhauf bitch and keeps 68 lol ok how do you make any event name?
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15:49:27 <Alkel_U3> Every time I do some makeshift pixelart for whatever I grab the TTD pallete. I should learn to make my own.
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16:32:25 <peter1138> i liked the restricted palette minecraft textures that used to do the rounds
16:32:35 <peter1138> some kind of challenge to create good art with minimal colours
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16:50:33 <supermop> peter1138: my wife once got me a japanese graphic design book that just contained a bunch of different 3, 4, and 5 color palettes
16:50:53 <supermop> making art with 5 colors is more interesting than with 255
16:52:12 <peter1138> this is why 32bpp is a flop ;p
16:58:03 <peter1138> £2400 for a i9 7900x system
16:58:06 <supermop> modelling buildings etc is much more enjoyable for me, but im not craxy about the look of the prerendered sprites
16:58:38 <peter1138> s/system/components
16:58:49 <peter1138> mind you that is 128GB of ram, which is possibly excessive
16:59:03 <supermop> if the game was rendered, with lighting and shadows, 32bpp would look ok
16:59:22 <supermop> keep everything in ram all the time
17:00:00 <peter1138> ok, £1600 with "only" 32GB ram
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18:25:07 <Alberth> hmm, need dinner first :)
18:26:22 <LordAro> decidedly still needs testing though
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20:26:58 <andythenorth> FIRS More Basic?
20:27:47 <frosch123> do you have an asian economy?
20:27:58 <frosch123> rice, chinaware, spices
20:28:03 <andythenorth> rice, computer chips, hondas
20:28:14 <andythenorth> I would need to be sure I’m not trading in bad stereotypes :P
20:28:21 <andythenorth> but the idea appeals
20:28:56 <frosch123> i would prefer a focus on pre 1800 cargos, instead of electronics
20:31:20 <frosch123> i am not sure whether an "oil and dates" would offer enough cargos
20:40:32 <andythenorth> there’s always pax and mail :P
20:45:17 <Alberth> nah, mail travels by pigeon
20:48:03 <frosch123> i think historical cargos make economies more distinct
20:49:12 <andythenorth> there is the issue of transport, no? o_O
20:49:45 <frosch123> historical cargos, modern transport :)
20:50:06 <frosch123> there are no tracks on the map at the start
20:50:18 <frosch123> so it makes sense to set the starting economy to pre-railroad :p
20:52:14 <Alberth> lots of people are willing to make suitable vehicles, I think :)
20:53:49 <andythenorth> in some ways, going back further would be interesting
20:54:02 <andythenorth> Romans used to transport wine around Europe in bulk tankers
20:55:22 <andythenorth> they seem to have arbitrary variation right now
20:57:28 <Alberth> wait until someone finds errors, then ask him to make a prposal :p
20:58:25 <andythenorth> I don’t really know what cargo weight does
20:58:32 <andythenorth> I assume it’s fractions of the ruling unit
21:01:48 <frosch123> it affects weight of the wagon, i.e. how much power your engine needs
21:01:58 <frosch123> wagon capacity is set in units, not in weight
21:02:55 <frosch123> maybe it would better be called "density"
21:03:24 <andythenorth> it does make sense currently
21:03:39 <frosch123> set it to 1 for watery things
21:03:45 <frosch123> lower for oily stuff
21:03:51 <frosch123> way higher for metally stuff
21:03:54 <andythenorth> someone should look up RL values or something
21:04:28 <andythenorth> or…RL trains and RVS are govered by weight :P
21:04:37 <andythenorth> so eh, 1 for everything
21:04:55 <frosch123> also true, it only applies to piece cargo
21:05:21 <andythenorth> the current model seems to assume 1 unit MNSP is much lighter than 1 unit ENSP
21:05:45 <andythenorth> but everybody know cardboard is light
21:05:56 <andythenorth> 1 ton of cardboard weighs much less than 1 ton of tractors
21:08:23 <andythenorth> is it done yet? o_O
21:08:35 <andythenorth> “The readme is crap, improve”
21:08:55 <peter1138> i had lots of stuff to do
21:09:00 <peter1138> then i stopped doing stuff again :(
21:09:08 <andythenorth> it’s a daft approach
21:09:15 <andythenorth> it’s too hot for that
21:09:24 <peter1138> i used to spend all evening and weekend on it
21:09:40 <peter1138> sunday i got up early, went out at 6.30, and came back after 100 miles...
21:09:52 <andythenorth> cycling is addictive
21:09:59 <andythenorth> and doesn’t have cross-platform BS
21:10:09 <peter1138> graphics are better
21:10:19 <andythenorth> OpenTTD does not
21:10:49 <andythenorth> should I delete it?
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21:13:24 <frosch123> isn't there some html to asciiart renderer?
21:13:53 <frosch123> can it also do svg?
21:14:20 <Alberth> svg may have been invented later :p
21:14:58 <Rubidium> can't you just make an image and push it through mplayer's renderer?
21:54:59 <supermop> been out all day looking for a tile that doesn't exist
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22:09:08 <Alberth> seen lots of things you didn't see before?
22:09:57 <andythenorth> tile shopping is the worst human activity
22:09:57 <andythenorth> outside the obvious candidates
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22:19:45 <andythenorth> no tile is ever the tile you want
22:19:55 <andythenorth> except the one you could never afford
22:23:35 <andythenorth> except too hot to sleep :P
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23:07:23 <Alkel_U3> yeah, Schmetterling is my favourite
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23:32:23 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't that like 5 years old now?
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