IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-06-06
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01:36:49 <supermop> I missed all the road talk
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04:10:42 <Vadtec> does anyone have a set of instructions on how to build the dual-tetrathorp? im building it, but i keep coming up with mismatches and its pissin me off
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10:17:49 <crem> Good [more to the morning side, but almost noon].
10:29:34 <Deactivated> ok that was so random
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10:41:44 <crem> We can use it as a random number generator then.
10:43:09 <planetmaker> what a peculiar nickname
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11:32:12 <OpenTTD> dbg: [net] [udp] advertising to the master server is failing dbg: [net] [udp] we are not receiving the acknowledgement from the server dbg: [net] [udp] this usually means that the master server cannot reach us dbg: [net] [udp] please allow udp and tcp packets to port 3979 to be delivered dbg: [net] [udp] please allow udp and tcp packets from port 3979 to be delivered
11:34:28 <FLHerne> OpenTTD: Just connected, did you say something before the last line?
11:36:14 <OpenTTD> advertising to the master server is failing
11:37:19 <FLHerne> That usually means you need to configure port-forwarding on your router
11:37:52 <FLHerne> Less commonly, that you should add a rule to your computer's firewall config
11:38:21 <FLHerne> For the ports listed in the message you quoted
11:40:28 <OpenTTD> im forward 3978 and 3979
11:41:15 <FLHerne> For both UDP and TDP? To the correct computer?
11:41:36 <FLHerne> If so, then it's probably an antivirus/firewall on your computer that's the problem
11:42:03 <FLHerne> The server is definitely working atm
11:43:51 <OpenTTD> im not use anti virus
11:45:14 <peter1138> I recommend UDP and TCP :)
11:48:32 <OpenTTD> im has forwarding UPD and TCP
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13:13:12 <OpenTTD> dbg: [net] [udp] listening on IPv4 port 0.0.0.0:0 (IPv4)
13:13:34 <__ln__> i'm still not convinced he's not a bot
13:14:20 <crem> OpenTTD: Rank those objects from the smallest to the largest: Sun, orange, village.
13:16:50 <crem> All bots say that. But they cannot rank objects of different types by their size.
13:17:18 <peter1138> 0.0.0.0:0 seems wrong
13:17:34 <Deactivated> Sun, village, orange
13:18:40 <Deactivated> DBot - Free bots for home and work. Customizable. Flexible.
13:18:52 <Deactivated> ok I obviously suck at making adverts
13:19:05 <Wolf01> 0.0.0.0:0 On windows 10 is any ip, any port
13:19:56 <Deactivated> that x.x.x.x:y. y is the port
13:20:20 <OpenTTD> advertising to the master server is failing
13:20:21 <crem> Yes, I didn't know you could listen to "any port", that would be weird..
13:20:22 <Deactivated> 1 sec gotta redo MSH03
13:20:57 <Deactivated> wait hold on wolfie I think it's a lil inaccurate?
13:21:10 <Deactivated> In the Internet Protocol Version 4, the address 0.0.0.0 is a non-routable meta-address used to designate an invalid, unknown or non-applicable target. To give a special meaning to an otherwise invalid piece of data is an application of in-band signaling.
13:22:09 <Wolf01> But 0.0.0.0 defaults to "listen to ANY IP"
13:22:31 <Wolf01> If you send to 0.0.0.0 I don't think it works, but it's a listen config
13:22:39 <Deactivated> OpenTTD watch and learn
13:23:45 <Deactivated> In the context of servers, 0.0.0.0 means "all IPv4 addresses on the local machine". If a host has two IP addresses, 192.168.1.1 and 10.1.2.1, and a server running on the host listens on 0.0.0.0, it will be reachable at both of those IPs.
13:24:05 <Deactivated> so I think it's trying to take info from, say, another random ip on your network
13:24:33 <Deactivated> 1 sec I gotta get my dinner
13:24:37 <FLHerne> Deactivated: No, it's fine to listen on every inbound address
13:24:57 <Deactivated> hmm then I have no idea
13:25:01 <FLHerne> That way it can hear the master server regardless of which interface has a link to the internet
13:34:37 <peter1138> ah ok yeah it is fine, it's the outbound bit
13:43:30 <Deactivated> we need help at MSH03
13:43:56 <Deactivated> I need help with my com; can't stay long on the svr cos there are too many trains rip
13:47:06 <Deactivated> I have no idea - you've pretty much gotten every factor that I could think og
13:50:27 <planetmaker> OpenTTD, you really did add that port forwarding *on your router*?
13:52:45 <Alkel_U3> And you certainly do have a public IP, right? - There isn't another NAT between your router and the internet?
13:54:12 <Wolf01> Did you reboot the router, forced the update or created a new rule? My router has a bad behaviour with changing port or IP for an existing rule on NAT
13:57:10 <OpenTTD> my computer ip is 192.168.1.102
13:57:29 <OpenTTD> my ip is 113.151.234.186
13:58:27 <Deactivated> whats the ports yo uneed open again? 3779?
13:59:16 <OpenTTD> Passing through In UDP Any Any Any 3978-3979 49
13:59:52 <OpenTTD> Passing through In TCP Any Any Any 3978-3979 50
14:00:26 <OpenTTD> Packet filter setting entry list
14:00:35 <OpenTTD> Packet filter setting entry list is passing
14:21:00 <Deactivated> how's it going OpenTTD?
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15:10:26 <dihedral> V453000, wher is everybody? this channel used to be so much more active :-P
15:11:04 <V453000> everybody addicted to factorio
15:13:14 <Alkel_U3> Need more uranium, need more uranium...
15:13:30 <Wolf01> Shhh you'll disturb the biters
15:13:49 <Alkel_U3> oh right I will, with rocket launchers
15:14:14 <Alkel_U3> That's what they said
15:14:39 <V453000> dihedral: your life is not ruined yet?
15:14:56 <V453000> pay $20 now and proceed by selling your house, family, dog and pet snails
15:15:05 <V453000> Worse than crack, would do again
15:15:09 <Wolf01> I'm ruining my life with diablo these days... 15-20 rifts at day
15:15:34 <V453000> I might play d3 for a bit when that comes out
15:15:36 <Wolf01> Necromancer isn't out yet
15:15:36 <dihedral> i am left speechless
15:15:45 <Alkel_U3> sufficiently upgraded rocket launchers are now pretty amazing even without mods
15:15:46 <V453000> it's in some beta so idk if you are in beta :P
15:16:15 <Wolf01> Yes, I applied for betas, but I can't play it this time
15:16:22 <V453000> Alkel_U3: yeah but uranium rounds in a tank with destroyers flying above you and full power armor of personal laser defense is just ... :) add cluster grenades to add insult to injury
15:17:07 <Wolf01> I still can't understand how to make the tank to fire when in sandbox mode
15:17:20 <V453000> why do you play in sandbox mode?
15:17:45 <V453000> well yeah blueprints but not bloodprints :D
15:17:52 <Alkel_U3> V453000: If they couldn't be thrown from a vehicle, they'd be pretty redundant, given the rate at which you can spray explosive rockets
15:18:21 <V453000> yeah but last time I tested, the explosive rockets slow down your movement a lot
15:18:28 <V453000> so you are soon hitting yourself as well
15:18:33 <Alkel_U3> at times I feel like a Buratino rocket launcher or something
15:18:34 <V453000> with behemoths everywhere it ain't easy
15:18:55 <Alkel_U3> oh, right, still don't have behemoths
15:19:14 <V453000> ah, yeah I was describing like evolution 0.99+
15:19:41 <Alkel_U3> they slow you down but for insignificant amount of time when you research all rocket shooting speed upgrades
15:20:20 <V453000> it might have changed, idk
15:20:28 <V453000> but in case you want to shoot all the time, it's alot
15:21:23 <Alkel_U3> well, my first time with a .15 tank was also a joyful one
15:26:39 <Deactivated> wait wut this is openttd not factorio/diablo lel
15:27:51 <Deactivated> how's the svr going?
15:28:00 <Wolf01> This channel is only a cover for a more deep comunity :P
15:28:23 <OpenTTD> ask das to make server
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18:14:16 <V453000> bear, sharkfish or platypus?
18:23:06 <V453000> slug is the correct answer
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22:10:13 <supermop> hate doing a timesheet for 50-60 hours in a week when i dont get paid hourly
22:11:11 <supermop> just reminds me that i was here until 22:30 last tuesday, 20:30 last wednesday, 19:00 last friday, and 01:30 this morning
22:28:43 <Brumi> where does STR_STATION_SUGAR_COMPANY appear in FIRS?
22:29:08 <frosch123> likely as the name of a station
22:30:17 <Brumi> obviously, but I cannot find which type of station
22:30:46 <Brumi> I mean, the stations are named like this when put next to a specific type of industry
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22:31:03 <Brumi> I haven't found the correct industry yet
22:33:31 <Brumi> this is a bit easier than keeping 6 instances of OpenTTD open and building stations everywhere :)
22:35:17 <frosch123> anyway, that SUGAR_COMPANY string seems to be unused
22:36:08 <frosch123> only andythenorth may know whether it refers to past or future plans, or both
22:43:14 <andythenorth> that looks like a bug :)
22:43:37 <andythenorth> Brumi: it’s supposed to be Sugar Refinery
22:43:43 <andythenorth> I’ll push a fix in a minute
22:44:14 <Brumi> similarly, STR_STATION_PLANE_AND_STAIN also seems unused, bug of feature?
22:45:49 <andythenorth> that string should be removed
22:46:36 <andythenorth> fixes pushed, but translator won’t get them until tomorrow iirc
22:46:57 <frosch123> nah, it only takes 5 minutes
22:47:58 <frosch123> possibly 10, i can't quite remember the cycle, but definitely no day
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22:51:05 <nekomaster1> So how hard would it be to add a Canadian Econemy to FIRS?
22:51:30 <nekomaster1> Because last I checked, Canada isn't 100% Arctic
22:51:50 <frosch123> try the lumber mill grf
22:52:27 <nekomaster1> it has things like aluminium and pyrite
22:54:54 <andythenorth> I will do a pacific northwest economy some time
22:55:07 <andythenorth> Oregon, Washington state, BC, Alberta
22:55:18 <andythenorth> maybe some Yukon, Alaska
22:56:38 <nekomaster1> I just made a height map of newfoundland
22:57:04 <nekomaster1> Though it might be nice to have something that covers canadian industry in general for larger maps like my Canada 2048x2048 map
22:58:24 <nekomaster1> For example, Canada has Aluminium plants but no sources of bauxite
23:01:09 <nekomaster1> it helps that because canada has a lot of hydroelectric power, many Alumnium plants where built, usually very close to hydroelectric dams
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23:40:27 <supermop> so i lost my campaign to get a 20 foot tall accent wall of hawaiian lava rock in this restaurant
23:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like a huge disaster
23:48:04 <andythenorth> nekomaster1: in the short term, the new Arctic Basic is pretty much Finland, Siberia or northern Quebec
23:50:10 <nekomaster1> We have peat but I dunno if its harvested for fuel like in other places
23:50:45 <nekomaster1> Theres very few fuel burning powerplants in canada, its mostly hydroelectric with a sprinkle of CANDU Nuclear, Windmills and Solar
23:53:10 <andythenorth> it’s not much peat for fuel in Canada, it’s controversial to burn it
23:53:16 <andythenorth> but eh, game isn’t realism eh?
23:54:25 <nekomaster1> Well I'd like to have Canadian stuff as I'm not happy with the options for industry available for a newfoundland scenario other then going with the vanilla industry
23:54:30 <nekomaster1> which would be boring
23:55:06 <nekomaster1> Would making a modifcation of firs be easy if I just reused graphics?
23:55:20 <nekomaster1> and most of the existing code?
23:56:08 <andythenorth> if you have the python build working then yes
23:56:20 <andythenorth> you got the environment for Road Hog?
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