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00:37:21  <Wolf01> 'night

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00:49:06  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, looks to me like nmlc is called with the parameters which grfcodec should get or something like that?

00:49:12  <planetmaker> 22:35:27 [NML] src/headers.nfo

00:49:12  <planetmaker> 22:35:28 Usage: nmlc [options] <filename>

00:49:12  <planetmaker> 22:35:28 Where <filename> is the nml file to parse

00:49:12  <planetmaker> 22:35:28

00:49:12  <planetmaker> 22:35:28 nmlc: error: no such option: --verbosity

00:50:41  <Eddi|zuHause> scripts/Makefile.def:NML_FLAGS      ?= -c --verbosity=1

00:51:12  <Eddi|zuHause> it works here...

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00:51:40  <Eddi|zuHause>   --verbosity=<level>   Set the verbosity level for informational output.

00:51:42  <Eddi|zuHause>                         [default: 3, max: 4]

00:52:08  <Eddi|zuHause> is it using a wrong/old version of nmlc?

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00:54:24  <Eddi|zuHause> it should be using the nmlc from eddi-nml

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00:58:36  <planetmaker> NML: 0.4.0.r5377:01988dfeee65 from 2014-09-21 <--- is that correct version, Eddi|zuHause ?

00:58:52  <Eddi|zuHause> no

00:59:28  <Eddi|zuHause> i pushed a version to eddi-nml earlier today, which would be based on 0.4.4-ish

01:00:03  <planetmaker> oh, ok. I will try to check that tomorrow

01:01:10  <Eddi|zuHause> Datum:           Fri Nov 07 19:15:22 2014 +0100

01:01:11  <Eddi|zuHause> Zusammenfassung: Add: Command line option to set verbosity level of info output.

01:01:28  <Eddi|zuHause> so version from sep 2014 is certainly too old.

01:01:41  <Eddi|zuHause> also, it wouldn't contain my "comment" patches to nml anyway

01:02:13  <Eddi|zuHause> which are kinda the entire point of eddi-nml

01:27:39  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: my local version is called "v5869:bf7946b77414 from 2016-01-26"

01:28:35  <supermop> what is eddi-nml?

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01:34:04  <Eddi|zuHause> a customized version/fork

01:47:20  <supermop> has bridges?

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01:51:15  <Eddi|zuHause> no.

01:51:32  <Eddi|zuHause> it has comments (ActionC)

01:52:10  <Eddi|zuHause> it has absolutely no gameplay impact, but i use them for some compilation wizardry

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02:32:13  <supermop> cool

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11:27:33  <argoneus> good morning train friends

12:02:05  <ConductingCat> Chu Chu

12:05:35  <peter1138> pikachu?

12:05:56  <peter1138> hmm, trains have always been "choo choo" for me, but i guess it's the same, heh

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12:20:22  <V453000> anus

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12:59:16  <peter1138> what

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13:06:41  <V453000> exactly

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13:28:22  <Wolf01> o/

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16:22:18  <Milek7> if i make patch adding setting to disable local authorities, it would be accepted into trunk?

16:23:12  <V453000> the game has been declared dead yesterday, but you can try :P

16:23:18  <Wolf01> :D

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16:43:36  <M-E> uh what?

16:44:08  <peter1138> too many unfinished patches

16:44:10  <Wolf01> yes, no new features until all bug will be fixed, and it's impossible to fix all bugs

16:49:36  <M-E> [citation needed]

16:49:48  <Wolf01> read the logs

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17:01:45  <Milek7> openttd have guidelines for maximum source code line lenght?

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17:03:04  <Alberth> yes, less than infinite

17:03:55  <Wolf01> also, one statement per line, so you can't cheat by making a one-line patch

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17:04:05  <Alberth> :D

17:06:32  <peter1138> not really, most people have wide screens these days

17:10:39  <_dp_> aha, and split them for 2-3 files :p

17:10:51  <Milek7> why there is rating check in CheckforTownRating and ClearTile_Town?

17:11:08  <Milek7> it don't need to be only in CheckforTownRating?

17:11:34  <Alberth> feel free to refactor

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17:11:50  <Eddi|zuHause> the game is declared dead about once per month, i think :p

17:12:19  <Wolf01> don't refactor without knowing *everything* about the code you are refactoring

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17:14:09  <Milek7> hm, i just realised that if i use that on multiplayer someone propably will destroy all cities ;p

17:14:53  <Wolf01> "I'll disable it for multiplayer" doesn't work, at least it didn't for drag&drop land purchase

17:15:07  <Wolf01> (it still hurts me)

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17:17:15  <_dp_> there is a way to igrone unwanted client command on server

17:17:18  <_dp_> ugly but it works

17:18:29  <Milek7> oh, i wanted to ask some time ago

17:18:39  <Milek7> randoms are calculated both on client and server?

17:18:50  <_dp_> everything is

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17:24:12  <Eddi|zuHause> Milek7: yes, and the random seed is compared occasionally and treated like a checksum

17:24:30  <Milek7> ok

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17:24:41  <Eddi|zuHause> Milek7: on mismatch, the client is kicked with the dreaded "desync" message

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17:46:05  <Milek7> https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6416

17:47:49  <peter1138> Enable to stop -> Disable?

17:48:53  <Milek7> yes

17:49:18  <Milek7> enabling option disables blocking actions by local authorities

17:49:41  <peter1138> why do you add the needed <= RATING_OUTSTANDING stuff?

17:50:10  <Milek7> wiki said that newgrf may set required rating for building to >1000 to make building indestructible

17:50:19  <Milek7> so this is for not breaking this

17:50:32  <peter1138> hmm

17:51:07  <peter1138> add a comment about that, i guess

17:51:32  <peter1138> also you've got spaces instead of tab in the last hunk

17:52:16  <Milek7> whops

17:52:38  <Milek7> it is possible to edit task, or i must add comment?

17:54:08  <peter1138> i don't know

17:56:12  <planetmaker> Milek7, you need to add a comment

17:56:48  <planetmaker> or attach a new version of the patch (if that needs updating)

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18:36:09  <andythenorth> o/

18:36:22  <Alberth> o/

18:36:38  <Wolf01> o/

18:38:24  <Milek7> looking at bugtracker, it seems that project is dead from 2006..

18:38:47  <andythenorth> well

18:38:55  <andythenorth> I got buildout.python working last night

18:39:34  <andythenorth> FIRS compile time is ~50s on python 3.2, 3.4 and 3.5

18:40:29  <andythenorth> I did test it on pypy3

18:40:41  <andythenorth> which last night worked, and I have shell output to prove it

18:40:50  <andythenorth> but now nmlc fails on pypy3

18:41:09  <andythenorth> (Exception) "tostring() has been removed. Please call tobytes() instead.".

18:41:41  <andythenorth> I wonder if that’s the failure, or if the error handling is also failing

18:41:47  * andythenorth will paste more

18:42:13  <andythenorth> http://pastebin.com/raw/sGmX4s7A

18:43:20  <andythenorth> when it did work, it appeared to compile with primed caches in ~28s

18:43:22  <andythenorth> which is fast

18:44:26  <planetmaker> Milek7, just because of the bug tracker itself or of what you find therein?

18:44:39  <Milek7> bug tracker

18:44:59  <Milek7> it is strange to see that active project has bugs with status "New" from 10 years ago

18:45:49  <Milek7> and nobody during this time have an idea to clean it

18:47:17  <Alberth> andythenorth: use -s to get a full stack trace

18:47:26  <Milek7> andythenorth: why you can't simply change tostring to tobytes? :P

18:47:43  <planetmaker> Milek7, the oldest open bug is from 2010. And rather is a feature request

18:48:32  <Milek7> ok, but there is also feature requests and patches

18:48:53  <Wolf01> bye

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18:49:00  <peter1138> hi

18:49:29  <andythenorth> Milek7: what, patch PIL locally? o_O

18:49:32  <andythenorth> not a great solution

18:49:44  <Milek7> no, code that is using pil

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18:51:15  <Milek7> propably you updated it

18:51:21  <Milek7> and now tostring is deprecated

18:51:52  <_dp_> pil is calling tostring it seems

18:52:03  <andythenorth> Alberth: better trace? http://pastebin.com/raw/DSLyaTCy

18:52:31  <andythenorth> if the answer is ‘pypy is not supported’ fine

18:52:37  <andythenorth> just curious

18:53:03  <Milek7> spriteencoder.py calls tostring()

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18:53:10  <Milek7> change to tobytes() ;p

18:53:14  <_dp_> ah, no, it's not pil, then yeah, why not just change?

18:53:44  <andythenorth> because it might be a pointless change

18:53:57  <andythenorth> I have commit rights on nml, but I’m not a competent maintainer

18:54:03  <andythenorth> and pypy might be unsupported

18:54:08  <andythenorth> the tests don’t pass on pypy3

18:54:10  <Alberth> it is PIL, mask_sprite is probably a PIL image

18:54:24  <Alberth> the question is what pal_convert expects

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18:55:05  * andythenorth just checking this isn’t bad sRGB or something

18:55:22  <Milek7> https://github.com/python-pillow/Pillow/commit/71c95c8e5f3bba1845444a246d04646825e6bab3

18:55:56  <andythenorth> he

18:56:39  <Alberth> makes total sense, sprites do not have strings :)

18:57:13  <andythenorth> so what, I need a different PIL?

18:57:17  <andythenorth> or we need to patch nml?

18:57:25  <Milek7> just change nml

18:57:44  <_dp_> no, change to bytes and fix pal_convert if needed

18:58:12  <Milek7> i think it is only name change

18:58:25  <Milek7> bytes for python is technically string

18:58:37  <_dp_> still different type

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18:58:59  <_dp_> if it works with bytes then it's probably fine

18:59:52  <Alberth> andythenorth: :  mask_sprite_data = self.palconvert(mask_sprite.tobytes(), im_mask_pal)  <-- trunk

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19:01:29  <Alberth> fixed 2 months ago

19:01:35  <Alberth> h2300

19:02:38  <andythenorth> :P

19:02:49  <andythenorth> that will learn me

19:02:56  <andythenorth> to update nml

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19:10:03  <andythenorth> quak

19:11:08  <frosch123> moin

19:13:13  <Alberth> andythenorth: actually, the root cause was a newer pillow :)

19:15:30  * andythenorth gets new test run times

19:15:45  <andythenorth> I suspect the ones I did last night are all spurious due to wrong nmlc

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19:20:11  <andythenorth> [python 3.2] unprimed cache: 1m17s  /  primed cache: 53s

19:20:43  <andythenorth> [pypy3] unprimed cache: 54s  / primed cache: 29s

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19:49:24  <Milek7> how from gamescript check clients list?

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19:53:45  <andythenorth> hmm

19:54:27  <andythenorth> [python 3.4] unprimed cache: 1m26s  /  primed cache: 1m2s

19:54:35  <andythenorth> frosch123: python 3.4 slower for me :)

19:54:52  <andythenorth> do I need to specifically _build_ nmlc under each python?

19:54:58  * andythenorth experiments

19:59:32  <andythenorth> no difference

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20:47:01  <Milek7> how from gamescript check clients list?

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