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01:05:29 <Wolf01> 'night
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02:08:32 <Eddi|zuHause> why is there a creeper in my cow herd?
02:11:03 <glx> not enough light
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07:08:40 <Alberth> moin
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10:20:27 <NGC3982> I'm getting the error "You don't have permission to access / on this server." when trying to start a new Apache2 server.
10:20:33 <NGC3982> http://henjoh.se
10:21:20 <NGC3982> I have followed the Ubuntu documentation on Apache2, and i have created a conf in sites-available, pointing to /dir/public_html
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10:21:36 <NGC3982> I have also set permissions to my user with chown and chmod.
10:23:32 <__ln__> is selinux enabled?
10:23:53 * NGC3982 thought he was in #ubuntu.
10:24:43 <Flygon_> Well
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10:24:45 <NGC3982> I do not really know, let's see.
10:24:58 <Flygon> I feel kinda dumb now
10:24:59 <Flygon> Because
10:25:15 <Flygon> I was spending a lot of time last week trying to get a 98SE desktop working
10:25:19 <Flygon> And I just JUST realized
10:25:24 <Flygon> That I should've asked #openttd for help
10:25:29 <Flygon> ...unless I already did
10:25:32 <Flygon> I hate my brain :|
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10:26:08 <NGC3982> :p
10:26:46 <Flygon> In the end
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10:26:52 <Flygon> I gave up getting the PCI LAN card working
10:26:58 <Flygon> And got a USB>Ethernet adapter
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10:27:11 <__ln__> #openttd is the perfect place for getting help in almost any topic.
10:27:12 <Flygon> Because somehow it was easier to do that instead of using a PCI card on 9x
10:27:36 <__ln__> i've successfully received help for things like maths, signal processing, poetry, ...
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11:21:17 <Flygon> __ln__: I have been trying to use #openttd as a last resort thing
11:21:19 <Flygon> Because, simply
11:21:24 <Flygon> I'm a very small player here
11:21:33 <Flygon> And don't have much in the way of respect from others
11:21:38 <Flygon> So...
11:21:53 <Flygon> Waltzing in screaming "HALP ME GAIZ MY COMPUTER WON'T WORK" is incredibly rude
11:22:38 <Flygon> Shower time
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11:31:55 <Wolf01> ho o/
11:34:45 <Taede> moin
11:57:56 <Alberth> ha
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12:18:58 <__ln__> https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC
12:21:34 <Wolf01> I feel Microsoft is trying to get the things right this time, maybe the real problem was Ballmer
12:33:45 <Alberth> imho the real problem was lack of competition
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14:06:15 <supermop> hello
14:07:12 <V453000> y0
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14:14:54 <supermop> you get your blender help?
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14:16:31 <V453000> eh kind of :)
14:16:37 <Eddi|zuHause> does it blend?
14:16:44 <supermop> close enough
14:16:56 <supermop> need to buy a suit
14:17:23 <supermop> after years of jobs where shorts were dressy enough for work
14:17:51 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: what is your local city's beer?
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14:18:20 <supermop> V453000: i am excited for your discreet grey land
14:18:31 <V453000> :)
14:18:37 <V453000> me too but not enough time to finish it
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14:23:24 <supermop> i had to stop even modelling brio trains
14:23:45 <supermop> surfing then immediately into full speed job search and apartment search
14:26:36 <V453000> :)
14:48:08 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: depends how narrow you want to define "local". there's a small brewery nearby that makes Wippraer Bier, which is quite good, then there's a larger brewery which produces the rather mediocre Landsberger Bier, and a bit further away there are the Köstritzer brewery which focuses on dark beer, and Altenburger, which people say is good but is way too bitter for my taste
14:48:58 <supermop> i like kostritzer, never tried wippraer or altenburger
14:49:33 <supermop> landsberger doesnt really get distributed here
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15:28:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i imagine wippraer to be the most difficult to come by, as they don't produce large quantities, and it doesn't last very long
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15:59:46 <Terkhen> hello
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16:09:27 <Wolf01> bye all, good weekend
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19:45:18 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27359 trunk/src/lang/swedish.txt (2015-08-07 19:45:12 +0200 )
19:45:19 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:45:20 <DorpsGek> swedish - 1 changes by planetmaker
19:45:57 <Rubidium> huh?
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19:49:52 <Alberth> maybe he sneakily moved to another country :)
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19:59:32 <V453000> XD
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21:41:20 <kruug> I know I had it running at one point, but I now forget how to make OpenTTD run out of the folder that the .exe file is in without creating files elsewhere.
21:41:31 <kruug> On Windows, how do I set that up again?
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21:45:29 <frosch123> put the openttd.cfg into the same folder as the executable
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21:48:37 <kruug> frosch123: got it. Thanks.
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23:09:21 <Afdal> hay guise got a question
23:11:46 <Afdal> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2785467/checkerboard%20terrain.png
23:11:54 <Afdal> I keep getting this goofy terrain a lot lately
23:12:02 <Afdal> and I can't figure out what's causing it
23:12:06 <Afdal> when I generate maps
23:12:33 <Afdal> It tends to be near the edges of maps
23:13:56 <Afdal> Here's my settings for that map for instance https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2785467/settings.png
23:15:22 <peter1138> turn off variety, i bet
23:15:25 <frosch123> https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6216 <- according to that it is caused by variety distrbution
23:15:31 <frosch123> but you can also try 1.5.2-RC1
23:15:35 <frosch123> maybe that fixes it
23:18:14 <Afdal> Ah yeah that fixed it
23:18:19 <Afdal> What does Variety do exactly again?
23:18:33 <frosch123> it makes maps flat in some areas
23:19:11 <frosch123> contrary to the map type setting "flat", which makes it flat everywhere
23:19:40 <frosch123> flat + variety distribution then creates flat maps with some even flatter areas :p
23:19:43 <Afdal> What's the different between setting it to None and Very Low?
23:20:07 <Afdal> oh god
23:20:11 <frosch123> none is less than low :p
23:20:14 <Afdal> Very Low gives the most checkboard patterns of all
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23:20:36 <frosch123> if "none" fixes it, it may very well be fixed in 1.5.2-RC1 as well
23:21:17 <Afdal> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2785467/checkers.png
23:21:19 <Afdal> lol
23:21:28 <Afdal> Yeah setting it to None gets rid of it
23:23:59 <Afdal> I'd been using a MEdium Variety Distribution setting
23:24:21 <Afdal> the terrain anomalies seem less common on high and very high
23:24:25 <frosch123> if you use "flat" maps, then variety distribution actually has no point at all :)
23:24:45 <Afdal> ono I:}
23:24:55 <Afdal> So it's basically just for hilly maps?
23:24:57 <peter1138> it's meant to work but the coder is shit
23:25:00 <Afdal> to create nice valleys
23:25:02 <Afdal> ?
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23:36:40 <Afdal> ah yes, I see it now
23:36:52 <Afdal> I don't understand how this is different from the Smoothness setting though
23:37:27 <frosch123> smoothness is more like a scale setting
23:37:58 <frosch123> smooth makes the map contain few hills, rough makes it contain many hills
23:38:07 <frosch123> variety replaces some hills with flat land
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23:39:45 <Afdal> how is that different @_@
23:40:02 <Afdal> is variety applied after smoothness?
23:40:43 <frosch123> smooth is one hill with an area of 100kmx100km
23:41:05 <frosch123> rough + variety is one peek on an otherwise flat map
23:41:23 <frosch123> smoothness is more like zooming
23:41:25 <Afdal> you mean smooth is a big plateau?
23:41:32 <frosch123> kind of yes
23:41:45 <frosch123> you zoom in, which makes hills take bigger areas
23:41:51 <frosch123> and thus lower slopes
23:41:58 <Afdal> hmm
23:42:03 <frosch123> zooming out creates many hills with steep slopes
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