IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2015-06-11
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01:06:20 <EXetoC> yo when we be getting unity port with stereoscopic rendering?
01:32:27 <Eddi|zuHause> right after the oculus rift port
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12:27:00 <supermop_> up to 27 beers on my antippodal beer countdown
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12:54:05 <planetmaker> per day that's an astonishing count :D
13:02:32 <supermop_> trying to try one new australian or kiwi beer per day until I leave
13:02:43 <supermop_> but i am only managing 2-3 aa week
13:25:49 <supermop_> newest manpower industries and ukrs is killing me
13:25:59 <supermop_> reduced payments, high costs,
13:26:42 <supermop_> idk why i built an ohle EMU line as first line instead of some coal or steel thing
13:28:19 <Flygon> I really wanna meet supermop. But I really don't know what I'd do beyond shake his hand then don't know what to do. x.x
13:28:52 <supermop_> i think you are giving me a bit too much credit
13:30:35 <supermop_> i am not that remarkable esp regarding my presence in melbourne
13:34:04 <Flygon> You're still extremely cool
13:34:15 <Flygon> And there's not many OTTDers in Melbourne
13:34:21 <Flygon> All the Aussies are in Sydney for some reason
13:35:12 <supermop_> just going to quietly turn off infrastructure maintenance for a couple years
13:35:58 <supermop_> im flattered but it's certainly quite the assumption to argue my 'coolness'
13:36:41 <Flygon> There's an xkcd comic about this somewhere
13:37:18 <planetmaker> just meet and you'll find out that you two are just normal guys which happen to share a similar passion :)
14:01:22 <__ln__> but Christopher Lee is dead
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17:49:30 <NumberNoid> is there a command in the routing for planes to use whichever airport is less busy?
17:49:37 <NumberNoid> i.e. in the goto window
17:52:28 <NumberNoid> or, a custom airport newgfr
17:52:38 <planetmaker> no, there's no such information available
17:54:29 <NumberNoid> how hardcoded are the airports?
17:54:56 <NumberNoid> i.e. does the "pathfinding" of the airports depend on code or something else?
17:55:27 <Eddi|zuHause> there is no "pathfinding" for planes. they go straight to the entry point of the waiting loop for the specified destination airport
17:55:56 <Eddi|zuHause> then the airport has a hardcoded path for that waiting loop
17:56:02 <NumberNoid> I mean when landed how does the plane know where it needs to go
17:56:21 <Eddi|zuHause> the airport decides all that via a state machine
18:01:21 <NumberNoid> are there any NewGFR's for creating your own airports or that offer larger ones?
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18:02:03 <Eddi|zuHause> no. that was proposed, but never implemented
18:02:26 <planetmaker> but mostly on grounds of the difficulty to decide on sane specs
18:05:01 <NumberNoid> now somehow Im going to have to reroute like 100 planes to use the other airport
18:05:25 <planetmaker> don't you use vehicle groups?
18:09:23 <Eddi|zuHause> use shared orders...
18:09:33 <NumberNoid> I used them in like one save but it was annoying to add all of them to the group every time I bought new ones
18:10:06 <Eddi|zuHause> use Ctrl while cloning to automatically add them to the group, and use shared orders, and everything
18:10:32 <NumberNoid> t'd be nice to be create a group from a common destination path
18:10:48 <planetmaker> add one vehicle and the add all with the same orders
18:11:07 <NumberNoid> how does one do that?
18:13:03 <Eddi|zuHause> ... by using shared orders
18:13:59 <NumberNoid> clicking on "add shared veichles doesnt do anything
18:14:08 <planetmaker> then they are not shared
18:14:13 <planetmaker> but just use the same orders
18:14:30 <NumberNoid> so do I have to manually add every singe one?
18:15:15 <Eddi|zuHause> really, the solution to your problem is shared orders.
18:15:19 <Alberth> afaik, yes, but normally you do that while buying them
18:16:41 <NumberNoid> so best solution would be to sell and rebuy?
18:17:12 <Alberth> you'd have to sell them individually as well
18:17:22 <Alberth> it's easier to let them share orders instead
18:17:58 <planetmaker> select a vehicle and goto + ctrl + click on the vehicle it's supposed to share orders with
18:19:04 <Alberth> in particular the "second orders" below that
18:31:42 <NumberNoid> does the guy who makes av8 set still update it?
18:34:53 <NumberNoid> anyway, thanks for the help
18:35:17 <Alberth> I don't play with aircraft, too boring :)
18:36:33 <NumberNoid> I like aircraft personally because they are carefree once oyu get them going
18:36:52 <NumberNoid> on the other hand I hate using veichles
18:36:56 <Alberth> but a good indication of 'update' is looking at the release date of the newest version
18:37:29 <Alberth> I like to tinker with the setup, and aircraft doesn't allow that
18:37:46 <NumberNoid> also, any way to make multiple airports per destination?
18:38:18 <NumberNoid> edit source code and reconpile without too much effort, or is it that hardcoded?
18:38:31 <NumberNoid> Ive went on a question spree :P
18:38:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't understand the question
18:38:55 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean join airports as one station?
18:39:02 <NumberNoid> so I can have like 2 airports
18:39:09 <Eddi|zuHause> afair, someone started that, but it wasn't finished
18:39:29 <Eddi|zuHause> the whole concept of waiting loops has to be reconsidered for that to work properly
18:39:34 <NumberNoid> also, why do some cities don't grow
18:39:42 <NumberNoid> when you have a station
18:40:03 <Eddi|zuHause> one single station does not provide a lot of growth, you need multiple (about 5)
18:40:22 <Eddi|zuHause> best done by sending a few busses in circles
18:40:33 <NumberNoid> but some cities grow with only one airport
18:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause> also, in desert/snow you need food and water
18:40:44 <Alberth> depending on climate there can be additional conditions
18:40:46 <NumberNoid> playing in temperate
18:41:21 <Eddi|zuHause> towns that have "(city)" in the town window, when you click on the name, grow faster
18:41:55 <Eddi|zuHause> but the 5-station-rule also applies to them
18:42:08 <NumberNoid> it sort of has growth "farts"
18:42:12 <NumberNoid> my other cities don't have that
18:43:00 <Eddi|zuHause> the station doesn't have to be near the city to be counted, it also applies to industries you serve nearby, as long as the station has the town in its name
18:43:20 * NumberNoid has played Openttd for about 2 years
18:43:33 <Eddi|zuHause> 2... 20... who cares?
18:43:51 <Eddi|zuHause> you can also do things wrong for 20 years :p
18:44:15 * NumberNoid glares over at the government
18:45:30 <NumberNoid> any way to add/remove newgfr's to and from an existing savefile?
18:47:31 <Eddi|zuHause> no. (or is there...?)
18:48:00 <Eddi|zuHause> (imagine this in a dramatic voice)
18:48:48 <NumberNoid> steam sale in 12 mins
18:50:02 <Alberth> I doubt I have enough money to buy steam
18:52:45 <planetmaker> I can sell you some steam. How many equivalent litres of water do you need?
18:53:11 <planetmaker> I'd even make you a special offer, for friends and OpenTTD devs only. Both boni even stack
18:56:21 <Alberth> in that context 0.2..0.4 l of hot water, with some spice-extract would be enough :)
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19:00:58 <NumberNoid> how is a .sav file stored?
19:01:04 <NumberNoid> is it a rehash of a .zip file?
19:02:29 <peter1138> No, totally custom format.
19:03:39 <NumberNoid> well looks like im not editing that
19:03:49 <NumberNoid> is there any like save editor?
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19:04:23 <Alberth> yes, it's called OpenTTD
19:04:35 <Alberth> you can't edit everything though
19:05:06 <NumberNoid> I mean editing things that you cant edit
19:08:40 <Alberth> that sounds pretty impossible
19:09:40 <NumberNoid> The Steam Store is experiencing some heavy load right now. Please try again later."
19:09:46 <NumberNoid> my life has been ruined
19:10:18 <glx> of course, everybody is pressing F5 :)
19:11:22 <peter1138> That moment when something (X-Plane) is 50% off, and it's still over £20...
19:11:46 <NumberNoid> you need a pHD to play that thing
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19:12:09 <NumberNoid> its very fun though
19:12:17 <NumberNoid> especially SPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEE
19:12:24 <NumberNoid> sent a A380 up there
19:14:32 <peter1138> FSX is okay but slow and crashy :(
19:14:41 <peter1138> FlightGear is pretty rubbish.
19:14:51 <peter1138> So maybe I need XP10
19:15:02 <NumberNoid> FSX flight model is junk
19:15:21 <NumberNoid> flightgear is the definition of dissapointment
19:16:27 <peter1138> So the game is, will it be 75%/80% off at some point... heh
19:17:07 <NumberNoid> why is 50% off for everything
19:17:21 <NumberNoid> usually 75% off is the standard
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19:46:56 <peter1138> Urgh... add on planes with crappy flight models...
19:47:32 <peter1138> Just turned a Dash 7 around really tightly.
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20:13:01 <andythenorth> ‘refit any available’ order creates linkgraph entries for every cargo
20:13:14 <andythenorth> which leads to _slightly_ spurious map display
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20:30:06 * andythenorth has been playing a lot of OpenTTD
20:30:09 <andythenorth> it’s pretty good eh?
20:31:59 <SpComb> I think it's boring, not realistic enough
20:32:44 <Alberth> and real life isn't boring?
20:39:30 <SpComb> yes, I want to be able to schedule bathroom breaks for my train drivers
20:47:42 * andythenorth is having a lot of train crashes
20:52:21 <Eddi|zuHause> <NumberNoid> usually 75% off is the standard <-- usually "<season> sale" means 50% off most things, and random things get 75% off at some time during the sale
20:52:35 <Eddi|zuHause> also, new titles tend to get less off, like 15% or 25%
20:52:56 <Eddi|zuHause> and more indie-titles also don't get that much off
20:54:50 <Eddi|zuHause> but since x-plane is already a daily deal, it's probably not going to get any cheaper this round...
21:00:35 <NumberNoid> Eddi|zuHause I guess
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21:21:54 <andythenorth> it’s really hard to make non-blocking multiway junctions near stations :P
21:22:03 <andythenorth> and without escape depots and suh
21:26:24 <andythenorth> it’s not blocked in that screenie
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22:35:36 <Wolf01> I... I don't know what happened... I was starting a game and 3 minutes after I pressed the "purchase" button on steam o_O
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