IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2014-12-23
⏴ go to previous day
00:32:19 *** Hazzard_AFK has joined #openttd
00:35:13 *** Hazzard_AFK is now known as Hazzard_
00:36:10 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd
01:00:55 *** Jinassi2 has joined #openttd
02:18:23 *** Flygon__ has joined #openttd
02:39:03 *** Zeetherdroid has joined #openttd
02:57:18 *** supermop has joined #openttd
03:27:36 *** Hazzard__ has joined #openttd
03:49:44 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz
03:58:14 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck
04:10:27 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz
05:30:08 *** Kurimus has joined #openttd
05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd
06:26:11 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd
06:46:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
07:23:20 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard_AFK
07:37:49 *** tokai|mdlx has joined #openttd
07:57:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai
07:59:10 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
07:59:55 *** andythenorth has left #openttd
08:05:31 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd
08:09:14 *** tokai|mdlx has joined #openttd
08:18:08 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd
08:18:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir
08:21:50 *** tokai|mdlx has joined #openttd
08:30:44 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd
08:33:49 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd
08:33:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir
08:37:17 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
08:40:44 *** tokai|mdlx has joined #openttd
08:45:27 *** Alberth has joined #openttd
08:45:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth
08:46:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai
09:00:21 *** tokai|mdlx has joined #openttd
09:03:29 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd
09:03:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir
09:11:47 *** tokai|mdlx has joined #openttd
09:22:45 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd
09:41:06 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
10:01:05 *** Progman has joined #openttd
10:10:39 *** oskari89 has joined #openttd
10:30:50 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd
10:48:42 *** Jinassi has joined #openttd
13:09:16 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd
13:29:18 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
13:41:58 *** Wammler has joined #openttd
13:44:52 *** EmeraldNext has joined #openttd
13:45:19 <EmeraldNext> So, uh, quick question.
13:46:32 <EmeraldNext> Would it be possible to create a short video series (or video) acting as a tutorial for OpenTTD based directly on the OpenTTD wiki? (with the proper attribution and intro sequence/such)
13:49:29 <EmeraldNext> Would anyone know where I could get permission to do so?
13:53:10 <blathijs> EmeraldNext: Permission for what exactly? To use images of OpenTTD / OpenGFX?
13:53:22 <blathijs> EmeraldNext: Or permission to put something on the wiki?
13:53:24 <Alberth> it's all gpl, so if you give proper credits, go ahead
13:53:45 <EmeraldNext> No, no, just to make a non-profit video that uses the outlined script, as a quick introduction to newer players.
13:54:03 <__ln__> Alberth: the wiki content is under GFDL
13:54:13 <EmeraldNext> __ln__: I'll look up that license, then.
13:54:57 *** Sheogorath has joined #openttd
13:55:16 <Alberth> but coming from GNU, it's likely to have similar terms of use
13:55:26 <EmeraldNext> Thanks, Alberth - Guess that isn't a problem, although I'm not sure how I can apply it to a youtube video - unless I'm mistaken - let me check very quickly, since Creative Commons isn't an adequate sub
13:56:29 <EmeraldNext> Well, I guess I'll just put it in the description of the video then, noting its copyleft nature (and all derivative work/reproductions must carry the same license) plus a noting of the original source very clearly at the start.
13:56:34 <EmeraldNext> Thank you very much for your assistance.
13:56:48 <Alberth> Be clear where you got the information from, and how people can find things on their own
13:57:17 <Alberth> that also fits your purpose of a tutorial
13:57:38 <EmeraldNext> Yes, I don't mean for this to be the only reference source and I intend to very strongly emphasize the content of the Wiki over my own work.
13:58:04 <Alberth> I am not so sure the wiki is that interesting tbh
13:58:23 <EmeraldNext> It's a very good reference source, but not structured well, in my personal opinion, for newcomers.
13:59:30 <Alberth> the initial tutorial is nice, but a bit simple
13:59:40 <EmeraldNext> The Quick Start guide has some gaping holes in defining the logic of OpenTTD (well, I guess I could campaign for a change if it should come to such matters) but this is all plans I need to get to work, lest this ambition is to disappear beneath time.
13:59:41 <Alberth> then you have a large amount of nothing
14:00:02 <Alberth> and then at the other end, loads of random stuff for advanced/specific goals
14:00:30 <Alberth> you may want to check out the tutorial game script
14:00:57 <argoneus> why do people like zbase so much
14:01:03 <argoneus> isn't that thing more proof of concept
14:01:27 <Alberth> argoneus: many games look like that perhaps?
14:01:55 <Alberth> I don't know, I never use zbase
14:01:56 <frosch123> argoneus: i suspect people like that you can zoom in
14:02:16 <EmeraldNext> Well, general idea - A - Goal (sandbox, basics of how goods are transported/why goods are transported) B - How to achieve goal - various basic means of transportation available/station interactions C - most efficient in most circumstance, train networks, and signaling D - City Growth
14:02:51 <EmeraldNext> Thank you all very much for your help, but I've got some work to get to. OpenTTD is one of my most very favourite games, so I'm looking forward to a chance to give back to this community.
14:02:56 <Alberth> city growth?? since when is that an OpenTTD goal? :)
14:10:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
14:24:25 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd
15:02:02 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
15:22:39 *** Quatroking has joined #openttd
15:24:19 *** Suicyder has joined #openttd
15:27:36 *** Hazzard has joined #openttd
15:30:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
16:36:13 *** Hazzard_AFK has joined #openttd
16:38:13 *** Hazzard_AFK is now known as Hazzard_
16:43:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai
16:43:38 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
17:28:14 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd
17:29:31 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
17:40:20 *** oskari89 has joined #openttd
17:45:34 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27089 trunk/src/lang/esperanto.txt (2014-12-23 17:45:30 UTC)
17:45:35 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:36 <DorpsGek> esperanto - 24 changes by polluks
17:54:05 *** Pensacola has joined #openttd
18:25:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
18:37:59 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard_AFK
18:50:24 <andythenorth> so is it dying then? o_O
18:50:29 <andythenorth> or is it just christmas?
18:54:43 <FredH> Hay, Do you guys know if there is a way to have two versions installed on a system? I have 1.4.4 and I would like to install 1.2.1 too.
18:56:46 <frosch123> just install it into a different directory
18:57:37 <FredH> The installer is saying that there is a more up-to-date version already installed
18:57:43 <andythenorth> I have craploads of them all in one folder on OS X
18:57:55 <andythenorth> sorry, that may not help :)
18:58:20 <frosch123> then do not use the installer, but the zip
18:58:30 <FredH> K, that would make more sence
19:07:11 <FredH> It is coming up with Failed to select music set 'OpenMSX' I have DLed the openMSX file but is there something else that I need to do?
19:10:01 <frosch123> the installations share the configuration files
19:10:26 <frosch123> sometimes there are minor incompatibilities, so you have to reconfigure stuff after switching versions
19:11:29 <frosch123> just reselect the music set in the game options
19:12:48 <Zuu> If a setting is renamed, and you go backward in history the old version will not know about that a newer version save it as a different name (or format).
19:14:47 <FredH> The message is coming up when I load the .exe, Is there a folder that the msx needs to be put in?
19:15:06 <frosch123> use the in-game content download to install it
19:15:35 <FredH> The Openttd window is just black
19:16:15 <frosch123> i thought you got an error message
19:17:09 <FredH> There s nothing but the error window
19:18:05 <frosch123> is the error window a separate window?
19:18:14 <frosch123> can you just close it?
19:18:28 <frosch123> otherwise you may try to delete openttd.cfg
19:18:30 <FredH> Yes but The TTD window closes too
19:19:39 <Zuu> openttd.cfg contains all your settings, so you may want to move it eg. to your desktop.
19:19:47 <FredH> I can not find the cfg file
19:20:01 <Zuu> C:\Users\FredH\OpenTTD\openttd.cfg
19:20:31 <FredH> Thanks, but tis not there...
19:20:52 <Zuu> It can also be in the installation directory of OpenTTD.
19:21:09 <Zuu> But only if you create it there.
19:22:21 <Zuu> The readme.txt has a sectin that explains where OpenTTD looks for openttd.cfg, music, sound and graphics base sets.
19:22:51 <FredH> Everything in the file is extracted from the install sip file
19:23:11 *** gelignite has joined #openttd
19:25:32 <Zuu> openttd.cfg is created by openttd.exe upon first time starting it.
19:25:52 <Zuu> Your 1.4 install should have one openttd.cfg file somewhere.
19:26:31 <Zuu> Your problem may be related to that 1.2 finds that openttd.cfg file and can't understand it correctly.
19:27:33 <Zuu> Another option (to deleting it) is to create an empty openttd.cfg file in the installation directory of 1.2. This will cause 1.2 to download online content into the install directory and other things and thus it has to be writeable.
19:31:09 <Zuu> Basically an openttd.cfg in the same directory as openttd.exe will make it ignore the OpenTTD directory in C:\Users\you\Documents
19:33:44 <Zuu> You're welcome. If you want to further understand this, I recommend the readme (located in the installation directory)
19:36:02 <FredH> It will be my bed-time reading tonight!
19:36:57 *** zeknurn has joined #openttd
19:38:30 <Zuu> andy likes to poundering on GS ideas :-)
19:38:40 <Zuu> IIRC it was this time of year NoCarGoal was written.
19:40:16 <andythenorth> need something to do at christmas, right?
19:40:32 <andythenorth> I should probably work on Road Hog
19:40:34 <andythenorth> it’s even kind of fun
19:40:50 <andythenorth> but I need to play test games....
19:41:03 <Zuu> Not really. IRL will keep me busy this christmas I think
19:41:36 <andythenorth> 2 kids, wife working most days
19:42:19 <Zuu> no kids or wife but guests and dinners
19:43:02 <andythenorth> NoCarGoals would be fun
19:43:17 <andythenorth> it just recycles the goals continuously
19:51:04 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck
20:15:39 * andythenorth thinks that GS doesn’t have to be perfect
20:15:46 <Wolf01> names for a pet rock? I thought about "fluffy"
20:36:26 *** Progman has joined #openttd
20:47:16 *** Hazzard_AFK has joined #openttd
20:47:29 *** Hazzard_AFK is now known as Hazzard_
21:00:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
21:13:11 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
21:39:59 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
22:14:35 *** BambooFingers has joined #openttd
22:15:28 *** BambooFingers has left #openttd
22:50:13 *** Jinassi2 has joined #openttd
23:13:11 *** Jinassi has joined #openttd
23:29:12 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz
continue to next day ⏵