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01:17:59 <Eddi|zuHause> stop acting like you've never seen a netsplit before. that wasn't even a big one.
01:19:01 <keoz> Oh, another insomniac.
01:21:13 <keoz> Eddi|zuHause. According to your nick, you're "zu Hause" since a fucking long time.
01:29:43 <Eddi|zuHause> that's because you misinterpret the nick
01:29:54 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not where i am. it's where my computer is.
01:31:01 <Eddi|zuHause> and i'm not insomniac. my sleep pattern has just drifted...
01:31:22 <keoz> Well. That's the way I like to interpret it too :-)
01:31:49 <keoz> Truth is, I'm in holidays for two month, and I definetely like night.
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01:33:33 <keoz> and then I throw into OTTD, and then I remind that I like coding, and then ...
01:34:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not really in the mood for coding lately
01:34:05 <keoz> I didn't touched to C/C++ code since at least 5 years. Hell, it's hard.
01:34:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never properly learned C/C++, only generic programming and some specific bits and pieces
01:35:03 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why i usually produce one-line patches and avoid complex stuff
01:35:47 <Eddi|zuHause> also i'm not usually into this "abstract" music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MoPZdmDERE <-- but this combined with the TV series gives me the shivers
01:37:08 <keoz> wow. That's weird :-)
01:37:28 <keoz> Such I generally more listen to that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw8wlede_fk
01:37:54 <Eddi|zuHause> you should really check out the TV series :)
01:39:02 <keoz> Oh yes.
01:39:08 <keoz> I've heard about Utopia.
01:39:10 <keoz> Nice ?
01:39:17 <Eddi|zuHause> totally insane :)
01:39:30 <Eddi|zuHause> cross lost with breaking bad :)
01:39:38 <keoz> well ... I'll be bittorrenting a little bit in next days, then
01:40:14 <keoz> Mmh I shouldn't take out pinkfloyd
01:40:22 <keoz> Now it's gonna last 2 hours more
01:43:36 <keoz> That's completely great. David Gilmour joining Roger Waters with its bass.
01:43:49 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea who those people are
01:44:04 <keoz> seriously ? :-)
01:44:22 <keoz> David Gilmour is one of the best guitarist ever.
01:44:48 <keoz> Roger Waters was one of the main guys from Pink Floyd.
01:45:16 <Eddi|zuHause> pink floyd was probably just not my generation...
01:45:52 <keoz> Actually, it was not mine neither
01:46:01 <keoz> (i'm 36)
01:46:29 <Eddi|zuHause> when i was growing up, everybody was into no doubt. and then nirvana.
01:46:42 <keoz> Oh yes. Nirvana. Nice trip.
01:46:51 <keoz> dunno "no doubt"
01:47:04 <keoz> rock ?
01:47:28 <keoz> actually, in my time, I was mostly techno
01:47:40 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, yes, that grew huge in the 90s
01:48:01 <keoz> but atm, since years, I always go back more to great rock
01:48:15 <keoz> I love Doors
01:48:33 <keoz> (so ... oldish)
01:48:54 <Eddi|zuHause> No Doubt's biggest hit was probably "Don't Speak". Gwen Stefani was in that band
01:49:28 <keoz> Where are you in Germany Eddi|zuHause ?
01:49:34 <Eddi|zuHause> east.
01:49:42 <keoz> Leipzig ?
01:49:51 <Eddi|zuHause> sort of
01:50:22 <keoz> Have spent 2 years in Germany. I learned to hate this country, and then, to love it.
01:50:45 <Eddi|zuHause> if i lived in france i'd probably say the same thing :)
01:50:57 <keoz> Probably :)
01:51:19 <keoz> Frankfurt am Main. Must say, it's a banker city.
01:52:01 <keoz> actually, in frankfurt people say, "this is not really Germany"
01:52:15 <Eddi|zuHause> the only extended time i spent outside my hometown's general vincinity was my almost-a-year of military service
01:52:59 <keoz> There's still mandatory military service in Germany ?N
01:53:06 <Eddi|zuHause> not anymore
01:53:13 <Eddi|zuHause> they abolished it like 2 years ago
01:53:23 <keoz> I had to do it ... In Switzerland :p
01:53:39 <keoz> (4 months, and after that, you come back each year)
01:54:06 <keoz> I hated that. Waiking up each day on 6 o'clock
01:54:15 <keoz> Horribly awful
01:54:35 <Eddi|zuHause> that reminds me of this swiss comedy movie, where a guy had two passports, and the military police grabbed him on his wedding day, saying like "you're lucky you don't have to serve twice"
01:55:09 <keoz> lol
01:55:15 <keoz> don't know it
01:55:36 <keoz> I think I never seen swiss movies that much
01:55:39 <Eddi|zuHause> the german name might have been "Achtung! Fertig! Charile!"
01:55:50 <Eddi|zuHause> *Charlie
01:55:56 <keoz> Well, Godard is great.
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01:56:18 <Eddi|zuHause> who is godard?
01:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and i've not seen a whole lot of swiss movies either
01:56:54 <keoz> Mh wait.
01:56:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i can only think of one other: a lord of the rings parody
01:57:41 <keoz> It's a really known franco-swiss ... "Regisseur" ?
01:57:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i do know how to find the "Deutsch" link on the translations bar :)
01:57:52 <keoz> I guess :)
01:58:29 <keoz> You'r programmer, aren't you ?
01:58:38 <Eddi|zuHause> sort of
02:00:03 <keoz> Coding is a passion I never have enough time to spend to, and that would have been my job if didn't do another choice.
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02:22:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess what i actually like is recognizing patterns and solving puzzles. that's why i much rather like to add to existing code instead of start from scratch
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02:34:16 <keoz> G'night Eddi|zuHause :)
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12:01:11 <LordAro> oftc being bad recently
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12:20:58 <keoz> apparently ...
12:24:53 <__ln__> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive
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13:24:43 <Flygon> __ln__: This's the part where the heightlevels patch in OTTD allows for orbital sattelite vehicles
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13:30:13 <peter1138> 1/win 42
13:37:30 <Xaroth|Work> fail.
13:40:42 <peter1138> Yes yes
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16:36:23 <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApN73TUVMEU <-- i never got that joke in many american movies and series, that the shower suddenly gets hot when somebody uses water elsewhere... does that actually happen? is their water supply so inferior?
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17:46:13 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26712 /trunk/src/lang (malay.txt slovak.txt) (2014-08-01 17:46:07 UTC)
17:46:14 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:46:15 <DorpsGek> malay - 5 changes by rasserie
17:46:16 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 1 changes by
17:46:17 <DorpsGek> slovak - 1 changes by Milsa
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18:15:12 <keoz> Two years in Germany, and I'm still suffering with German vocabulary ...
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19:18:03 <Sacro> Someone has probably posted this - https://soundcloud.com/johnbroomhallmusic/sets/transport-tycoon-john-broomhall-track-excerpts
19:20:06 <Sacro> Unsure if it's actually him or just reaaaaaaaaly good covers
19:20:59 <Eddi|zuHause> why wouldn't it be him?
19:22:14 <Szczepancio> Anyone knows android sdl?
19:22:45 <Szczepancio> Is it possible to map right click as nothing, but nothing mean's don't send any key to sdl and any key to android?
19:23:40 <Eddi|zuHause> try pelya on the forum, he maintains the (inofficial) android port of openttd
19:28:16 <keoz> Which reminds me taht sadly, the right click is far undervalued in OTTD ergnonmy
19:28:36 <keoz> with a contextual click, a lot of things could be more practical :)
19:29:29 <keoz> Just think: you right click on a vehicle, a list opens, which let's you open its timetable, it's vehicle group, and so on.
19:29:34 * keoz dreaming.
19:31:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that's because the TT-interface is older than the concept of context menus
19:33:20 <keoz> I see. I still think that a serious thinking about that point would be really interesting. Has that already been debated ?
19:34:08 * keoz wondering how difficult it would be building a such patch.
19:34:50 <Eddi|zuHause> gui patches are a pain
19:35:03 <keoz> :/
19:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause> not just in openttd
19:35:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why linux guis are always so underdeveloped
19:35:43 <keoz> :p
19:36:00 <Eddi|zuHause> the people that want gui can't program, and the people that can program don't want the gui
19:36:15 <Eddi|zuHause> also, that's probably why we have no mac developer
19:36:36 <keoz> well the distinction is not always so straigtforward :)
19:36:53 <keoz> but there's a lot of truth ...
19:37:23 <keoz> actually, people who only wan't gui programs, also wants 3D.
19:37:35 <keoz> s/wan't/wants/
19:37:56 <Eddi|zuHause> that's backwards
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19:38:09 <Eddi|zuHause> also completely wrong :p
19:38:35 <keoz> No. Only partially :)
19:39:43 <LordAro> hmm, that music is really rather good
19:41:28 <keoz> Anyway. Did you try my patch about depots, Eddi|zuHause ?
19:41:41 <Eddi|zuHause> what patch?
19:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> and no...
19:41:54 <keoz> waiting depots time
19:42:47 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah. no.
19:43:00 <keoz> Was harder to do as expected. I had to entirely create a new order type.
19:43:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't even started the game in ages...
19:43:11 <keoz> Ah.
19:44:54 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: RIP Bjarni :(
19:44:56 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni
19:44:56 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 2 years, 42 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh
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20:05:02 <__ln__> famous last words
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20:43:21 <luaduck> working on some scripty stuff, is it possible to get a player's UniqueID / something persistent through sessions through the admin port?
20:43:45 <luaduck> it's purely a stats tracker, we're not going to be banning or giving privileges using it
20:48:43 <Eddi|zuHause> nothing that couldn't be faked easily
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20:59:09 <Rubidium> player name is as persistent as an 'unique id'
21:03:08 <__ln__> *a
21:05:57 <Eddi|zuHause> always depends on how you pronounce the "u"
21:06:30 <Xaroth|Work> luaduck: closest you can get is the IP address probably
21:06:53 <Eddi|zuHause> ip is hardly "persistent"
21:07:31 <Xaroth|Work> i said closest, i never claimed it'd actually meet the requirements
21:07:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd also propose the player name. if you weed out all the "Player"s first
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21:08:16 <Xaroth|Work> like it's hard to change your name....
21:08:43 <Eddi|zuHause> combine it with some geoip region, if you want to fuzzy-safeguard against duplicates
21:08:49 <Xaroth|Work> :|
21:08:54 <Wolf01> hi hi
21:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause> but anything you could come up with will fall into some corner case trap sooner or later
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21:15:03 <luaduck> we're not concerned about duplicates
21:15:12 <luaduck> it's purely to track player statistics over time
21:15:32 <luaduck> instead of having to faff about with getting players to login when they connect just to track stats
21:16:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but that's exactly where you care about duplicates
21:16:49 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise you get players who complain that their stats go up even if they didn't play
21:17:46 <luaduck> I guess so
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21:17:58 <luaduck> suppose the only way to do it realistically is to get players to login
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23:40:27 <Wolf01> 'night
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