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06:23:30 <NGC3982> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1477372_820711831291605_1266936605_n.jpg
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08:58:01 <planetmaker> moin
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09:59:38 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone besides me have the issue that openttd's viewport doesn't properly resize if you change both x and y size of the window simultaneously?
10:06:25 <NGC3982> No.
10:06:28 <NGC3982> Not in 1.3.2.
10:06:57 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's probably depending on graphics driver
10:07:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm on linux/sdl
10:07:45 <NGC3982> Well, i remember noticing some oddities while resizing windows with 1.3.2 in Ubuntu 12.03.
10:07:48 <NGC3982> 04*.
10:07:53 <NGC3982> Ah.
10:11:02 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, what you mean with 'not properly resize'?
10:11:31 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: the window resizes, but the viewport not with it
10:11:33 <planetmaker> the actual shown viewport updates for me after I finish resizing - and until then it shows black border (when extending window size)
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10:12:23 <peter1138> Probably dependent on WM too
10:12:25 <Eddi|zuHause> if i resize only x or y, then the viewport changes while resizing, if i resize both, the viewport stays the same size even after i finish
10:14:48 <peter1138> Sounds like a bug in your WM, or maybe SDL. There's no separate event for X/Y/X+Y change
10:15:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i use KDE
10:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause> without compositing
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13:20:49 <LordAro> that was a big one
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13:21:30 <MNIM> as they say, "Crickey!"
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13:21:51 <MNIM> that's an angry one, mate!
13:22:38 <LordAro> OFTC, why you so silly?
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13:27:17 <planetmaker> LordAro, it's an announced update on services ;)
13:29:23 <LordAro> it is?
13:34:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't seen an announcement
13:35:00 <planetmaker> it is. #oftc
13:35:18 <peter1138> Who would bother to hang around there?
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14:06:19 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.sheldonsfans.com/quote-622-free-morgan-freeman.html
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14:09:58 <NGC3982> The bad part comes with that not being Morgan Freeman either.
14:10:02 <NGC3982> :3
14:10:39 <__ln__> how can Nelson Mandela tweet post-mortem??
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14:19:09 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: but it says "verified"!!! it must be the real person!!!
14:20:37 <MNIM> Something tells me twitter's verification procedures are not even half as strict as reddit's verification procedures.
14:31:34 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of smilie is ":3" anyway?
14:33:55 <MNIM> one used by furries.
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14:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> they have a double chin?
14:40:07 <peter1138> Something like a cat face
14:52:32 <peter1138> Bah, wanted a cup of tea but there's no milk :(
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14:52:59 <__ln__> does the milkman still deliver milk?
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14:56:41 <peter1138> Yes
14:56:56 <__ln__> in glass bottles?
14:57:03 <peter1138> Yup
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15:43:14 <Eddi|zuHause> must be something very british
15:44:11 <Speedy> why can't they make a beer delivery the same way
15:44:50 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, we have jokes around milkmen
15:45:05 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, that's how British it is ;D
15:45:05 <Speedy> they wouldn't last on any porch, but the idea is nice.
15:47:53 <Speedy> have you guys tried OpenTTD ToolBox for Android?
15:49:50 <planetmaker> what is that supposed to be?
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15:51:11 <peter1138> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XWo4ufMkG4
15:56:11 <Speedy> OpenTTD Toolbox is a small app designed to help you when you play Open TTD.
15:56:18 <Speedy> It will help you to manage stations and vehicles, and will provide you a distance calculation tool, really useful when you buy limited-ranged aircrafts. You will also be able to manage your vehicles' orders.
16:01:19 <Xaroth|Work> never had an issue with limited-range aircrafts
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16:02:24 <planetmaker> 'manage station and vehicles'... I usually do that by the vehicle or station or group list views
16:02:36 <peter1138> Plural of aircraft is aircraft, btw
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16:25:34 <dihedral> hello
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16:35:47 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: what's the meaning of "roses" and "tulips"?
16:36:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Speedy: if you need better management functions, wouldn't it be better to implement them in OpenTTD directly?
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16:49:08 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, well it seems to be deliberately pronounced as two lips, nudge nudge wink wink.
16:54:09 <Eddi|zuHause> ah.
16:54:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i couldn't have possibly understood it like this :p
16:55:40 <peter1138> Heh
16:55:47 <peter1138> Bah, can't download my new games from gog :p
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18:54:42 <Alberth> moin
18:54:51 <MNIM> eevnin.
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18:56:36 <Alberth> hi andy
18:57:07 <andythenorth> lo
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18:57:13 <andythenorth> :)
18:57:14 <andythenorth> biab
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18:57:21 <Alberth> :)
18:57:29 <MNIM> 0o
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19:13:31 <Arrgh> Hey folks, is there a canonical FAQ/discussion/Wiki page about handling short- vs. long-haul passengers well?
19:13:54 <Arrgh> e.g. it'd be nice to merge bus/tram/train stations, and not have the bus/tram steal all the trains' most profitable "cargo"
19:14:14 <Arrgh> I guess I could set the stop to unload only on the bus/tram lines...
19:15:27 <MNIM> Arrgh: you might want to take a look at cargodist
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19:18:34 <Zuu> Hello
19:19:31 <Arrgh> MNIM, interesting, thanks. It's in trunk, so I can probably just enable it with a setting, if my build is recent enough?
19:21:48 <MNIM> Arrgh: yes. it should be under advanced settings.
19:21:54 <MNIM> trunk, mind you, not release
19:30:25 <Alberth> ie a nightly
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19:43:08 <Alberth> o/ Wolf
19:43:18 <Wolf01> hi hi o/
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19:52:26 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: only one month left till 13-13-13
19:52:43 <Eddi|zuHause> the world will end!!
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19:53:46 <Eddi|zuHause> why is it "doubt" with "ou" but "dubious" only with "u"?
19:56:22 <Alberth> dubious is questionable, rather than doubt
19:57:08 <Eddi|zuHause> you trying to tell me they don't come from the same word?
19:57:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i doubt that :p
19:58:18 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause, the "ou" is still there, it was only moved -> dubi(ou)s
19:58:54 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: are you Rubidium in a wolfpelt? :p
19:59:08 <Wolf01> ahah
19:59:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: no honestly, that is something i would expect Rubidium to say :)
20:00:06 <Eddi|zuHause> (besides, you have the same colour)
20:00:46 <Alberth> or colur :)
20:05:39 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: same reason as for knight and night; the spelling has absolutely nothing to do with the pronounciation
20:06:00 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.titanxxl.de/blog/?p=93 <- believe the dutchies, they have experience with that
20:06:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: except it's pronunciation :)
20:06:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: because apparently "noun" would be too obvious :p
20:07:18 <Wolf01> ahah
20:07:35 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i've seen that thing as "this is where the spelling reform will go", and i think i'Ve also seen an english version of that
20:08:00 <Rubidium> you mean from English to German?
20:08:21 <Eddi|zuHause> not entirely sure
20:09:36 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: but for "night" and "knight" it's perfectly logical, the first one comes from "Nacht" and the second one from "Knecht"
20:10:11 <Eddi|zuHause> where "comes from" is a very loose term, not really implying a direction :)
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20:13:36 <Rubidium> the main thing is that English has not had spelling reforms for a long time
20:13:42 <Rubidium> except... American
20:16:30 <Rubidium> I know that Dutch and German had significant ones about two decades ago
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20:23:41 <glx> French had one too
20:26:57 <Eddi|zuHause> german had one in 1901 and one around 1996 (which was revised multiple times)
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20:27:40 <Eddi|zuHause> so apparently you need one around every 100 years :)
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20:52:02 <Alberth> hi again andy
20:52:28 <planetmaker> hello
20:53:59 <andythenorth> lo
20:54:17 <andythenorth> what's cooking?
20:55:32 <planetmaker> a lot of wine has been. Feeling still dizzy :D
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21:02:08 <Alberth> trying to make some compasses http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/compasses.png still WIP :)
21:02:40 <planetmaker> compass... what for?
21:03:35 <peter1138> To find the way to spawn
21:06:10 <frosch123> andythenorth: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2885/ <- dinner?
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22:05:12 <frosch123> night
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