IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2012-10-04
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14:39:46 <peter1138> 240GB SSD should be enough, right?
14:40:59 <BtbN> My entire OS is on a 120G SSD
14:42:34 <Jake|afk> For the OS and any applications that benefit from the faster load times, it's plenty. You might want to invest in a conventional hard drive for storing all your video files on though.
14:42:41 <TinoDidriksen> And with transparent compression, you can save 25% space of the OS.
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14:44:16 <peter1138> i'm thinking OS and, uh, Steam apps :p
14:44:52 <peter1138> i don't have any video files o_O
14:45:40 <planetmaker> dd /dev/sda2 /dev/peter1138 :D
14:45:48 <planetmaker> missing if= and of=...
14:45:58 <Jake|afk> That ought to be more than enough then. I tend to download rather than streaming where possible though.
14:46:15 <peter1138> i don't stream videos either
14:47:35 <Jake|afk> Or more often just buy the DVD because even torrenting is too expensive on my broadband package.
14:47:57 <peter1138> i don't watch videos on my pc
14:48:15 <planetmaker> :-) I've no other means than to do so ;-)
14:48:24 * Rubidium just "streams" mpeg2 content
14:48:52 <Jake|afk> Me neither unless you count the TV in the living room shared between me, my big sister and her kids.
14:49:59 <peter1138> that sounds like a strange arrangement
14:52:26 <Jake|afk> Not really. I pay her a fairly token rent for the spare bedroom, and I haven't really got space in here for a PC *and* a television.
14:54:40 <Jake|afk> I also have a much nicer speaker system up here for my PC than the old 14-inch CRT telly from a charity shop in the lounge.
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15:26:02 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24571 trunk/src/network/core/os_abstraction.h (2012-10-04 15:25:57 UTC)
15:26:03 <DorpsGek> -Fix: do not cast away const
15:33:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24572 trunk/src/os/windows/win32.cpp (2012-10-04 15:33:13 UTC)
15:33:20 <DorpsGek> -Fix: do not cast away some other consts
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15:44:14 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24573 trunk/config.lib (2012-10-04 15:44:09 UTC)
15:44:15 <DorpsGek> -Fix: hopefully get packing right on Mingw's gcc 4.7
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17:00:49 <Belugas> lovely : Q. Why do java developers wear glasses? A. Because they don't C# !
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17:51:59 * andythenorth ponders newgrfs with climate specific vehicles
17:52:05 <andythenorth> doesn't really apply to FISH :P
17:53:05 <andythenorth> ships are kind of same-ish
17:53:11 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Icebreakers ;-)
17:54:08 <FLHerne> Or just reduce the speed of all non-icebreakers in the Arctic, and say they need to be careful of drifting ice lumps ;-)
17:55:06 <FLHerne> Also, the tropical one could use more low-waterline, coastal/island/big river boats?
17:55:51 <Alberth> toyland needs toy boats!
18:01:03 <andythenorth> climate specific HEQS?
18:02:55 <frosch123> climate specific egrvts?
18:03:17 <frosch123> horses vs. huskies vs. elephants?
18:03:28 <frosch123> i want an elephant grf!
18:03:44 <frosch123> NewElephants and NewKangaroos!
18:05:22 <frosch123> i think elephants would fit heqs
18:05:31 <frosch123> slow and carrying lots
18:05:35 <frosch123> compared to horse trams
18:05:42 <andythenorth> do they autorefit?
18:05:54 <frosch123> they are not refittable to food
18:06:04 <frosch123> they autoempty on the travel
18:06:39 <frosch123> that image looks like a tugboat actually
18:12:52 <andythenorth> cb 16A: vary cargo amount, called every n days per vehicle
18:13:35 <frosch123> andythenorth: you can use subtypes: 1 elephant, 2 elephants, elephant flock
18:13:59 <andythenorth> number of elephants can change at stations?
18:14:24 <frosch123> hmm, you could eat one, so only make them less?
18:14:44 <andythenorth> elephants can make more elephants
18:14:50 <andythenorth> as long as you have two or more
18:15:01 <frosch123> ah, so you may not drop below two
18:15:21 <frosch123> anyway, ottd is for kids
18:21:16 <Alberth> just call it 'cloning'
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18:43:07 <andythenorth> Alberth: openttd has 'cloning' already :P
18:43:47 <andythenorth> refit-clone would be awesome
18:43:56 <andythenorth> 'goto parnville, if more than 200t waiting, clone'
18:45:53 <Alberth> you also need 'unclone' then :p
18:50:09 <frosch123> forking elephants sounds interesting
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19:01:03 <andythenorth> maybe that's how to implement 'shunting'
19:10:22 * andythenorth has no fricking idea how to solve autorefit yet
19:10:26 <andythenorth> so no truck set for you :P
19:10:29 <andythenorth> and no new HEQS either :P
19:19:17 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, day of the tentacle is way easier than when i was a kid
19:25:13 <Eddi|zuHause> is maniac mansion actually winnable with any combination of characters?
19:35:24 <Alberth> assuming you tried at least once, I'd say not all combinations give a win :p
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19:43:45 <andythenorth> I have nearly fixed all the badly lit graphics in FISH
19:45:10 <Wolf01> s**t, today it's even :P
20:01:59 <andythenorth> can anyone remember how snow support works in FIRS?
20:03:26 <FLHerne> andythenorth: I can't :P
20:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's from a time where adventures were made so you can actually lose them
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20:11:56 <Terkhen> andythenorth: switch dependent on tile snowiness IIRC
20:20:47 <FLHerne> andythenorth: What for? :-)
20:21:28 <frosch123> oh, i thought for winter
20:21:48 <Rubidium> oh, I though for CHRIST (CHRistmas Industry SeT)
20:22:12 <frosch123> what cargos does it have?
20:22:40 <Rubidium> reindeer, jingle bells, presents, christmas trees, lights
20:22:41 <frosch123> do you deliver reindeers to food plants?
20:23:39 <andythenorth> can santa's sleigh autorefit
20:24:04 <andythenorth> or presents only?
20:24:17 <Rubidium> you need to deliver everything across the map in a single day ;)
20:24:36 <frosch123> andythenorth: everything can be a present, can't it?
20:24:40 <frosch123> so, sounds like refit to all to me
20:24:41 <Rubidium> does his bag contain naughty kids on the way back, like Sinterklaas?
20:25:03 <Supercheese> Santa Claus cheats, he uses the daylength patch :P
20:25:14 <MNIM> make a small little industry that produces presents, has to be put in the north of the map and make deliveries worthless unless delivered in one day
20:25:18 <Supercheese> and build while paused
20:26:07 <frosch123> well, i guess santa's intercontinental airport just cannot handle the amount
20:26:19 <Supercheese> he should build an International, they're more efficient
20:26:36 <frosch123> is a sleigh more like a plane or a helicopter?
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20:26:58 <andythenorth> probably helicopter
20:27:10 <frosch123> yeah, roofs are quite short :)
20:34:10 <Rubidium> a white christmas? That's so unreal... the only white you get here during christmas is loads of fog
20:34:18 * andythenorth needs a faster connection
20:35:50 <frosch123> hmm, i did not remember that actually none of those vehicles drivers
20:36:00 <andythenorth> no youtube for me :P
20:37:21 * andythenorth had better sleep
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21:57:42 <SgtGeneralCase> zBase r171 makes openttd 1.2.2 (+opengfx 0.4.4) crash. Should I bother with a bug report or..?
21:59:15 <V453000> just report it and they will sort it out somehow :)
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23:53:47 <Eddi|zuHause> you know what i hate? when you dig out an old strategy game and it reproduceably crashes like 100 turns in
23:54:33 <SgtGeneralCase> Sounds like Fast Chess :)
23:57:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and while we're ranting, why does scummvm screw up all window sizes and positions when going full-screen?
23:57:22 <SgtGeneralCase> Eddi|zuHause: that's a bug of Xorg :/
23:57:38 <SgtGeneralCase> or SDL (whichever you like to blame)
23:57:50 <Eddi|zuHause> but neither wine nor dosbox do that
23:59:00 <SgtGeneralCase> Let me find my bug
23:59:55 <Eddi|zuHause> when wine goes to fullscreen, and properly exits, then all my windows are back where they belong
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