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00:10:43  <Rubidium> going for a sleep? To that I have to answer: "yes!"

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01:20:38  <PeterT> HAHAHAHAAH

01:20:40  <PeterT> rdlBNC fail

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02:05:31  <Belugas> anyone? anytwo? anythree? anyfour? anyfive? anysix? anysex? anything? anyleftovers?

02:05:55  <Belugas> no more, no more,no more

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07:27:35  <andythenorth> morning

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07:43:25  <planetmaker> moin

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08:14:34  * andythenorth stumps up and starts redrawing the FIRS Aluminium Plant :P

08:14:38  <andythenorth> not too scale

08:14:40  <andythenorth> to /s

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11:13:22  <Eddi|zuHause> hm... is "NFORenum v3.4.6 r2111" too old to process firs?

11:13:36  <andythenorth> dunno

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11:13:53  <Eddi|zuHause> i get a bazillion of warnings and errors

11:14:39  <Rubidium> that might very well be possible

11:23:10  <Eddi|zuHause> compiling r2321 now...

11:23:30  <Eddi|zuHause> ... and throwing boost errors...

11:27:24  <Rubidium> you probably need a newer boost

11:27:30  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: you might just download nforenum ;-)

11:31:24  <Eddi|zuHause> i | boost1_36             | Boost C++ Libraries

11:31:35  <Eddi|zuHause> is the newest one i found, and that is installed

11:32:28  <Eddi|zuHause> oh, it used the include path of 35

11:34:47  <Rubidium> I think you need a newer version of boost

11:37:32  <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't tell which version of boost is required...

11:38:21  <Rubidium> yup

11:39:50  <frosch123> it works with 41

11:40:50  <Eddi|zuHause> i remember i had to upgrade from 34 to 35 when i last compiled

11:42:16  <Rubidium> that would've been like a year ago :)

11:42:58  <Eddi|zuHause> r2111 | DaleStan | 2009-05-01 07:16:09 +0200 (Fr, 01. Mai 2009)

11:43:46  <Eddi|zuHause> -rwxr-xr-x 1 johannes users 3736763  5. Mai 2009  renum

11:45:50  <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: there is also renum binary with yexo patches on our repo

11:46:21  <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: but that's avoiding the problem, not solving the problem...

11:47:37  <Rubidium> you mean that solving the problem would be done by forking nforenum (and possibly) grfcodec?

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11:51:56  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19930 /trunk/src/misc_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Deduplicate magic command parameter casts. (rubidium)

11:58:05  <Eddi|zuHause> so... waiting to download 50MB now...

11:58:41  <Eddi|zuHause> although that's the installed size, not the download size...

11:58:49  <Eddi|zuHause> yast is sometimes weird

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12:09:25  * Zuu worders why everything goes wrong today.. maybe because I haven't have my coffee yet?

12:10:21  <Eddi|zuHause> seems to work with 42 now...

12:10:35  <Rubidium> ofcourse, 42 is the answer :)

12:10:36  <Zuu> Have already had to do an extra fix-release of CluelessPlus, and now I need to make a bug-fix in both SuperLib and CluelessPlus :-s

12:10:49  <Eddi|zuHause> why was i expecting that now? :p

12:10:54  <Rubidium> Zuu: add/make more regression tests

12:11:37  <Zuu> Probably a good idea. In this case I had renamed a function, but only in the spec, not in the implementation. :-s

12:12:25  <Zuu> The bug is in the library, but the AI will need to be updated to use the new fixed library. Oh well. Time to have coffee first :-D

12:14:18  <Zuu> While documenting, I fonud out that one funciton was miss-spellt and renamed it just before release.

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12:14:47  <Eddi|zuHause> hm... renum now has "only" two warnings left, but grfcodec throws "Error: Could not parse unquoted escape sequence. While reading sprite:1204"

12:16:25  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19931 /trunk/src/ (17 files in 4 dirs): -Fix (r19914): Convert assertion in Backup<> destructor into DEBUG() output. It was triggered on exceptions, especially when aborting world generation.

12:21:46  <Eddi|zuHause> ... i definitely see nothing wrong...

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12:30:08  <Zuu> Nice town: 5 stations for delivering diamonds, 2 for water, 1 for mail. And then 1 for fruit and one for taking food from the food processing plant at the outskirts of the town.

12:30:18  <Zuu> (all by CluelessPlus of course)

12:30:40  <Zuu> The town itself has 123 inhabitants.

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12:32:19  <glx> more stations than houses ?

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13:30:00  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19932 /trunk/src/ai/ai_core.cpp: -Codechange: Preserve _current_company when starting AIs.

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13:32:56  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19933 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Fix [FS#3804]: Keep _current_company and _local_company in sync during GUI operation.

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14:09:07  <Zuu> glx: yep. At some point it should probably learn how to share drop stations though since all connections are somewhat bi-directional, it's not straight forward to detect which stations that are ok to join.

14:10:56  <Zuu> Looks like CluelessPlus handles full stock piles by closing down the connections. == sell vehicles, remove stations and road up to first intersection.

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14:37:56  <Zuu> Hmm, assignment using "==" is not a good idea :-p

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14:49:49  <Mitch_1_2> Hey. Which destination can I use for a town to accept goods?

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14:53:27  <frosch123> only big houses accept goods

14:53:31  <frosch123> so make the town grow

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14:57:13  <Mitch_1_2> Ah. Thanks.

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15:03:31  * Zuu wonders if he should take the risk of being done with the fixes now, or perhaps make some coffee first :-p

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15:08:08  <frosch123> it's too hot for coffee

15:10:18  <Rubidium> frappuccino time?

15:12:32  <frosch123> never saw nor tasted that stuff

15:13:21  <Rubidium> it's coffe + ice + blender

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15:23:02  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19934 /trunk/src/ (genworld.cpp openttd.cpp): -Fix [FS#3857]: When 'pause on new game' is set, pause the game before CleanupGeneration() to avoid conflicts with concurrent GUI code.

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17:25:36  <andythenorth> what would cause an industry to *not* use CC in graphics?

17:25:50  <andythenorth> I can't see any special flags or anything similar that need enabling

17:28:05  <Ammler> not using those colors in the sprite...

17:28:27  <andythenorth> nah the same sprite works with cc in another industry

17:28:35  <andythenorth> it's something in the tile or the industry

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17:33:13  <planetmaker> andythenorth: afaik there's a flag for it...

17:34:50  <andythenorth> planetmaker: not that I can see?

17:34:58  <planetmaker> nor me :-)

17:35:10  <planetmaker> maybe it's only CB 14A which needs to be triggered?

17:35:41  <andythenorth> I only started using that yesterday :o  CC has been working for about a year :)

17:36:24  <planetmaker> Well, there's CC in the palette...

17:36:40  <planetmaker> if you use those very colours, they'll be some kind of CC possibly

17:36:44  <planetmaker> probably automatically

17:37:39  <andythenorth> that's what I thought

17:37:57  <andythenorth> the Aluminium Plant won't use CC.  if I copy the same pcx to the Metal Foundry, it works

17:39:26  <planetmaker> that's peculiar

17:40:56  <andythenorth> indeed

17:41:03  * andythenorth looks for errors

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17:41:41  <Clark_Lawson> hi all

17:41:44  <asilv> it needs a flag, look at http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action2HousesIndustryTiles ,table "sprite definition", bits 14-15

17:42:04  <__ln__> egladil: tjenare. are you participating?

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17:43:24  <andythenorth> asilv: thanks...I've been looking for a flag for 45 minutes :)

17:44:11  <egladil> __ln__: participating?

17:45:23  <__ln__> egladil: an r20000 "party". (details from planetmaker)

17:45:44  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r19935 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)

17:45:44  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

17:45:44  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 changes by IPG

17:45:44  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: polish - 3 changes by silver_777

17:45:44  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: portuguese - 1 changes by JayCity

17:45:46  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 29 changes by Tucalipe

17:45:46  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: russian - 5 changes by Lone_Wolf

17:46:15  <planetmaker> 19th June in Braunschweig, Germany

17:46:29  * planetmaker is off to go buy a tent. Just in case :-)

17:46:36  <Ammler> lol

17:46:59  <planetmaker> they're supposedly cheap with the soccer world championship ahead

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17:49:50  <frosch123> oh, so there is actually some use in soccer

17:50:14  <egladil> oh, that would have been fun :)

17:50:22  <egladil> unfortunately i'm busy

17:50:59  <egladil> can you move it to the week after? ;)

17:52:54  <frosch123> there is an alternative meeting on 18th around 6am on paris railstation for about 30 minutes iirc

17:53:03  <frosch123> :p

17:59:15  <egladil> doesn't really help as i'm busy that whole weekend

18:00:43  <__ln__> too bad

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18:44:43  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19936 /trunk/src/ (fios.cpp fios.h openttd.cpp): -Codechange: If there is an enum, also use it.

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19:02:44  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19937 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: Move some fios related prototypes to fios.h

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19:22:15  <planetmaker> no tent yet.

19:23:33  <frosch123> all gone?

19:24:30  <planetmaker> not really. But "Baumärkte" close at 20h

19:24:33  <planetmaker> bastards

19:24:53  <planetmaker> they're supposed to be open till 22h ;-)

19:25:08  <frosch123> :p

19:25:46  <Zuu> Heh, I went to the railway station to print tickets, but they had closed the building. It is easy to forget how late it is when the sun is up so late. :-)

19:25:59  <planetmaker> but given my luck it'd be raining, if I hadn't a tent at hand ;-)

19:26:15  <planetmaker> hehe @ Zuu :-)

19:26:24  <frosch123> a tent for the sun is also nice

19:26:51  <planetmaker> well there can be shade from trees, if chosen properly

19:27:09  <planetmaker> bring a sun hat, though ;-)

19:27:38  <planetmaker> and an umbrella :-P

19:28:32  <frosch123> an umbrella like the vain chinese girls at my old university had?

19:29:21  <planetmaker> that's probably not an umbrella but a parasol ;-)

19:29:49  <frosch123> maybe, but "parasol" is something big for me :p

19:30:31  <planetmaker> In my understanding it's a hand-held thing protecting one person from the sun - just like an umbrella ;-)

19:31:29  <Zuu> Over here I'd say a parasol is something that cover an outdoor table or so.

19:32:30  <frosch123> http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/8/4/Pierre-Auguste-Renoir-Woman-with-a-Parasol-and-a-small-child-84303.jpg vs. http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/1/0/Frederick-Frieseke-The-Garden-Parasol-10585.jpg

19:32:50  <frosch123> (interesting with what picture google can come up)

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19:34:10  <planetmaker> I was picturing the one in the first link, yes :-)

19:34:36  <planetmaker> the link gives it away, but the first looked familiar to me :-)

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19:40:40  <frosch123> http://media.openttd.org/images/screens/1.0/20090113_deteroystein.png <- haha, selling a pre 0.6 screenshot as 1.0 :p

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19:46:09  <planetmaker> how do you know <0.6? Seen it before? :-)

19:46:24  <planetmaker> besides I wouldn't try to sell OpenTTD with that screenshot ;-)

19:46:31  <frosch123> no, there are some key features

19:47:34  <planetmaker> hm

19:48:35  <planetmaker> I'm curious as I don't see it in the screenshot

19:48:58  <frosch123> at the bottom left it is most noticeable

19:49:34  <planetmaker> the foundations?

19:49:41  <frosch123> yup :)

19:49:57  <b_jonas> what's with the fundations?

19:50:15  <b_jonas> oh, you mean the ones on the very sloped tiles?

19:50:27  <frosch123> yup, the very ugly ones :p

19:50:39  <planetmaker> I wondered but couldn't quite pin-point it.

19:50:56  <b_jonas> what's the red circle on the message bar?

19:51:07  <frosch123> pending news

19:51:14  <b_jonas> I see

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19:59:07  <Guest694> hey-ho

20:02:56  <planetmaker> ho-hey

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20:34:23  <frosch123> night

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21:13:49  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19938 /branches/1.0/ (9 files in 5 dirs):

21:13:49  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.0] -Backport from trunk:

21:13:49  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: When 'pause on new game' is set, pause the game before CleanupGeneration() to avoid conflicts with concurrent GUI code [FS#3857] (r19934)

21:13:49  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Blocked roadvehicles should first check whether they are still blocked before accelerating again, instead of continuous starting/stopping (r19755)

21:13:50  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Passing some invalid data to industry variable 67/68 could cause a crash (r19713)

21:13:50  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Update: changelog and such

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21:19:46  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19939 /tags/1.0.2-RC1/ (5 files in 4 dirs): -Release: 1.0.2-RC1

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21:20:58  <Eddi|zuHause> "Das Auto vor mir fährt so wild. Das liegt am gelben Nummernschild"

21:21:27  <Zuu> "OpenTTD: - Fix: Blocked roadvehicles should first check whether they are still blocked before accelerating again, instead of continuous starting/stopping (r19755)" <--- Nice :-)

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21:22:32  <Rubidium> Zuu: no, the next two thursdays will be Nice

21:22:35  <Eddi|zuHause> does that only apply to stopped vehicles or also vehicles moving below their max speed??

21:22:59  <Zuu> The next two thursdays?

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21:23:37  <Eddi|zuHause> i was under the impression Nice is a city in southern france...

21:23:39  <Zuu> Something on TV?

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21:24:27  <Zuu> Eddi|zuHause: afik it only applies to vehicles stuck (stoped) in queues.

21:25:23  <Rubidium> Zuu: if there would be something really on TV that would warrant writing it as Nice, then Hell has frozen over (the Hell in the US, not the one in Norway)

21:27:01  <Eddi|zuHause> (

21:27:14  <Eddi|zuHause> (so nobody got the joke about the license plate)

21:27:44  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: I can't remember the Polish having a yellow license plate

21:27:57  <Rubidium> and Dutch taxis have blue license plates

21:30:38  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: or is it a joke in Ohio?

21:31:14  <Rubidium> where people convicted of DUI might be required to have a yellow license plate

21:31:24  <Eddi|zuHause> the person made the joke took the role of Rudi Carell while doing it, but that doesn't translate well to irc ;)

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22:29:40  <__ln__> noch drei bundesländer die ich nicht besucht habe...

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22:42:37  <Eddi|zuHause> that makes 13 you did visit...

22:43:13  <Eddi|zuHause> i have never been to bremen, hamburg and schleswig-holstein

22:44:17  <Eddi|zuHause> and in Saarland and Rheinland-Pfalz i only passed through on the Autobahn

22:46:04  <__ln__> the ones i'm missing are sachsen, berlin, and mecklenburg-vorpommern.

22:49:16  <__ln__> admittedly my saarland experience is mostly through a car window, but not just autobahn.

22:50:06  * tokai|noir was in Saxonia and Berlin already ;)

22:51:16  <__ln__> i have a flight from berlin on 22nd, so that one is likely to add to my list

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