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00:46:02 <simleocas> podrian ver esto http://s2.ar.bitefight.org/c.php?uid=19466
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01:25:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14489 /trunk/projects/ (4 files): -Change: let MSVC use ICU (for right-to-left text rendering) from the new openttd-useful.zip. So... MSVC users: update your openttd-useful.zip or compilation will fail.
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06:37:33 <planetmaker> !port
06:37:40 <planetmaker> !ports
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08:21:26 <Wolf01> hello
08:24:22 <Alberth> hello
08:24:49 <Wolf01> I've a problem adding the "go to nearest depot" order for ships, it always says it's too far away, so I need to add it *before* the station one and then move it after
08:31:21 <Alberth> can you place a buoy nearby and move to that first?
08:32:53 <Alberth> (I almost never play with ships, so I am not entirely sure I understand the problem correctly)
08:33:14 <Wolf01> I'm already doing that, but seem the "nearest" checks the distance between docks and not dock-buoy
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08:40:19 <Alberth> anybody experience with kompare here? (in particular, how to convince it to save applied diff chunks?)
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08:52:50 <Ammler> Wolf01: with nightly?
08:52:58 <Wolf01> yes
08:53:05 <Ammler> you could use conditional orders
08:53:47 <Ammler> 1:if needService=false then goto order 3
08:54:08 <Ammler> 2: goto buoy->depot
08:54:26 <Ammler> 3: goto whereever..
08:55:52 <Wolf01> the problem is that I might not know what depot is, because I move depots often
08:57:24 <frosch123> there is also a "go to nearest depot" order
09:00:29 <petern> that's the problem :)
09:00:35 <petern> 09:22 < Wolf01> I've a problem adding the "go to nearest depot" order for ships, it always says it's too far away, so I need to add it *before* the station one and then move it after
09:01:14 <frosch123> :)
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09:44:24 <planetmaker> g'day folks
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09:45:07 <Gekz> SILENCE
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09:46:34 <Eddi|zuHause> I KILL YOU!
09:46:54 <Gekz> rofl
09:47:03 <Gekz> A- C- phlegm-
09:49:22 <yorick> is that a rebus?
09:49:51 <Doorslammer> Try-hard Strassman IMO
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10:01:18 <elmz> hi
10:01:33 <elmz> does anyone know where I can get the river grf?
10:01:44 <yorick> openttdcoop grfpack?
10:03:15 <elmz> thought I had that one ^^
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10:16:49 <elmz> hm, is there only river grfs for the temperate climate? :/
10:16:56 <yorick> yes
10:17:24 <Ammler> elmz: one of the OpenGFX grfs has rivers for all climats.
10:17:49 <Ammler> I guess, landscape, but not sure.
10:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, this industry flattening thing is way too intrusive... how am i supposed to climb this mountain now? www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Lohrstadt%20Transport,%2020.%20Okt%201920.png
10:18:45 <elmz> but that wouldn't really fit with the original graphics, would it?
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10:22:23 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: you don't
10:22:30 <Ammler> you have to go around
10:22:51 <Eddi|zuHause> but we cannot go around
10:23:15 <Ammler> north of refiniery
10:23:26 <Eddi|zuHause> ... we are on the lion hunt ... :p
10:24:02 <Ammler> :-)
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10:53:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the best i could do: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Lohrstadt%20Transport,%2026.%20Okt%201920.png
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11:06:20 <ln> hmm, simutrans is open source now.
11:06:30 <Gekz> :o.
11:06:34 <petern> has been for a while
11:06:34 <Gekz> and this affects us how?
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12:09:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14490 /trunk/src/ (cargo_type.h town_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: fix comment style on a few locations (Alberth)
12:13:05 <Alberth> it is really completely unpredictable what goes in trunk first :)
12:14:56 <TrueBrain> what you expect? :p
12:17:49 <Alberth> the order I used, and/or a more complete processing of the patch sequences
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12:19:23 <Rubidium> small patch, easy to see it's not wrong v.s. bigger patch that needs more review
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13:47:26 <sierra1024> afternoon gentlemen
13:48:09 <Celestar> hi
13:49:32 <TrueBrain> hello :)
13:50:03 <sierra1024> i got a small issue, i want to install svn version of openttd on my debian server (in order to run dedicated server), however, for the glory anything i cant find any switch in configure that would allow me to make just the dedicated server at my home box and then send it to my server
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13:51:26 <TrueBrain> sierra1024: ./configure --help
13:51:27 <TrueBrain> --enable-dedicated compile a dedicated server (without video)
13:51:32 <sierra1024> brrr :D
13:51:41 <sierra1024> i been looking 5 minutes on it :D
13:51:46 <TrueBrain> (and no, it can't automaticly send stuff to your server :p)
13:51:58 <sierra1024> :D ok thanks
13:52:30 <TrueBrain> and the most obvious one is the one you were looking for ;)
13:52:35 <TrueBrain> ./configure --help | grep dedicated
13:52:35 <TrueBrain> ;)
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13:53:17 <TrueBrain> looks painful ;)
13:54:17 <sierra1024> yes
13:54:42 <sierra1024> i cant beat my keyboard with hand, i broke the back supporting legs allready
13:55:02 <sierra1024> i am worried i will strike it more, i will have to use mop to clean it out
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14:13:32 <Sacro> TrueBrain: mkdir server; sshfs username@server:/ server; make DESTDIR=server install
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14:14:31 <TrueBrain> Sacro: OpenTTD doesn't listen to the DESTDIR variable, but nice try ;)
14:14:50 <Sacro> TrueBrain: yes it does
14:14:58 <Sacro> oh, hm, maybe not
14:15:03 <Sacro> I can't recall how I wrote the PKGBUILD
14:15:09 <TrueBrain> glad you know it better
14:15:09 <Sacro> I think i did it on the configure line
14:15:22 <TrueBrain> but who ever wrote the INSTALL_DIR stuff, didn't look at FHS :)
14:15:33 <TrueBrain> so we use a .. custom way of defining those things :)
14:15:56 <TrueBrain> (things like 'prefix-dir' instead of 'prefix', and at configure time setting the install dir .. ;))
14:16:07 <Sacro> ./configure --prefix-dir=/usr --binary-dir=/bin --icon-dir=/share/pixmaps --data-dir=/share/openttd --personal-dir=/.openttd --install-dir=$startdir/pkg/
14:16:11 <Sacro> like that :P
14:16:21 <TrueBrain> the last entry is your DESTDIR
14:16:24 <Sacro> yup
14:17:16 <Sacro> should be $pkgdir really
14:17:34 <TrueBrain> so your idea fails ;) But .. nice try :)
14:17:45 <Sacro> :(
14:17:55 <TrueBrain> and personal-dir is very wrong
14:17:55 <Eddi|zuHause> so... who exactly was behind the whole makefile rewrite process? :p
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14:18:02 <TrueBrain> but I told someone that already before
14:18:10 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I never wrote the install-dir part ;)
14:18:15 <Sacro> TrueBrain: you never told me why#
14:18:45 <TrueBrain> I wouldn't know why my personal dir would be in the ROOT of my filesystem ...
14:18:54 <TrueBrain> I would remove the line, as openttd defaults it to ~/.openttd
14:19:10 <Sacro> that is ~/.openttd
14:19:19 <TrueBrain> because of common sense?
14:19:22 <TrueBrain> ls /.openttd
14:19:27 <TrueBrain> dunno .. don't expect that dir to exist
14:19:31 <TrueBrain> I doubt I can create the dir as normal user
14:19:38 <Sacro> echo -o ls /.openttd
14:19:41 <Sacro> hmm
14:19:48 <Sacro> ls: cannot access /.openttd: No such file or directory
14:19:59 <TrueBrain> ....
14:20:00 <TrueBrain> omg ..
14:20:02 <Sacro> sh: /home/ben/.openttd: is a directory
14:20:04 <TrueBrain> SUPRISE!
14:20:07 <TrueBrain> lol :)
14:20:13 <Sacro> data
14:20:13 <Sacro> hs.dat
14:20:13 <Sacro> openttd.cfg
14:20:13 <Sacro> save
14:20:17 <Sacro> what?
14:20:37 <TrueBrain> really, remove the directive, it is useless
14:20:51 <Sacro> useless, yes, but wrong, no
14:21:04 <TrueBrain> ./configure --prefix-dir=/usr --binary-dir=/bin --icon-dir=/share/pixmaps --data-dir=/share/openttd --install-dir=$startdir/pkg/
14:21:15 <Sacro> i also have --personal-dir=/.openttd-svn
14:21:18 <Sacro> for svn builds
14:21:35 <Sacro> I can post that on AUR, but it isn't an urgent change
14:21:51 <TrueBrain> then remove the initial /
14:22:01 <TrueBrain> --personal-dir=.openttd
14:22:03 <TrueBrain> --personal-dir=.openttd-svn
14:22:03 <Sacro> I don't have the rights to :
14:22:05 <Sacro> :p
14:22:09 <Sacro> i do for svn
14:22:13 <Sacro> but not for stable
14:22:18 <TrueBrain> using /.openttd really is very wrong
14:22:20 <Sacro> as it isn't me that owns the package
14:22:25 <Sacro> no it isn't
14:22:34 <Sacro> it works, so it's not really very wrong
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14:22:39 <TrueBrain> okay, then it isn't, you know best
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14:22:48 <Sacro> I'm not saying tha
14:22:50 <Sacro> t
14:22:52 <Aali> michi_cc
14:23:02 <Sacro> I'm just stating that if it was really wrong then it wouldn't work
14:23:32 <Aali> the code you added in r14482 can cause an infinite loop and lockup the game
14:23:40 <TrueBrain> that is more becuase OpenTTD safes your butt on thisone
14:25:14 <Sacro> TrueBrain: true
14:25:29 <Sacro> I will post a comment about it, but I doubt they'll release 0.6.3-2
14:26:37 <TrueBrain> but okay .. I noticed that package mantainers do funny stuff anyway with their packages :)
14:26:49 <TrueBrain> in the Gentoo ebuilds I found code which dates back to the 0.4 series :)
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14:30:07 <TrueBrain> for those using Gentoo, you should now be able to get latest trunk and noai (nightlies) via: layman -o http://packages.openttd.org/gentoo/layman.txt -a openttd (after installing layman of course), and then running: emerge -av openttd-trunk or emerge -av openttd-noai. The 0.6.3 stable is also in there, but main gentoo portage masks it (GRRRRR)
14:30:18 <Sacro> TrueBrain: yes, Arch did have that
14:30:19 <TrueBrain> ebuilds are updated automaticly every night
14:31:10 <Sacro> sed -i 's|PREFIX:=|PREFIX:=/|' $conf
14:31:10 <Sacro> sed -i 's|BINARY_DIR:=|BINARY_DIR:=.|' $conf
14:31:10 <Sacro> sed -i "s|PERSONAL_DIR:=|PERSONAL_DIR:=$instdest|" $conf
14:31:10 <Sacro> sed -i 's|DATA_DIR:=|DATA_DIR:=.|' $conf
14:31:36 <TrueBrain> Sacro: I hope they no longer have that
14:31:48 <Sacro> hehe, no, I rewrote it to use the ./configure script
14:32:10 <Sacro> actually, that was for 0.4.0
14:32:15 <Sacro> .1
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14:32:34 <Sacro> 0.4.5 wasn't much better http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/community/games/openttd/PKGBUILD?revision=1.2&root=community&view=markup&pathrev=CURRENT
14:32:58 <TrueBrain> that is correct, yes
14:33:19 <TrueBrain> sounds about right
14:33:23 <TrueBrain> 0.4 serie didn't had ./configure
14:33:32 <yorick> have*
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14:33:47 <Sacro> *series
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14:34:36 <TrueBrain> @kban yorick 60 mie anglis iz nut ferrie gud
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14:35:18 <Gekz> TrueBrain: your english was on a fail.
14:35:21 <Gekz> and you know it
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14:35:44 <TrueBrain> Gekz: you want one too?
14:36:26 <Gekz> I don't want anything from you
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14:36:44 <Eddi|zuHause> at least you remembered to give a number :p
14:37:05 <petern> 0.4 did have a ./configure
14:37:19 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, would be a first :)
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14:37:46 <TrueBrain> petern: yeah, you are right :)
14:37:54 <Sacro> petern: don't think it was needed though
14:37:58 <Sacro> cos the Makefile was already there
14:38:10 <TrueBrain> I forgot 0.4 had a configure wrapper around Makefile ;)
14:38:31 <TrueBrain> Sacro: ./configure only changed things in Makefile.config, yes :)
14:39:06 <glx> and it usually failed for me :)
14:39:40 <TrueBrain> it didn't really had any detection :p It just parsed what ever you feed to him :p
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15:02:14 <burty> hi
15:02:44 <TrueBrain> hello burty
15:02:58 <Progman> s/r/s/ would be more interessting...
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15:10:08 <TrueBrain> Progman: now you scared him! :p
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15:36:50 <planetmaker> openttd: /home/openttd/svn-public/src/station_cmd.cpp:567: void UpdateStationAcc
15:36:52 <planetmaker> Empty()' failed. <-- is that known (r14469)?
15:39:11 <Aali> planetmaker: failpaste
15:39:19 <planetmaker> hu?
15:39:58 <Aali> look at the error Ammler posted :P
15:40:10 <Aali> thats what it should look like
15:40:39 <planetmaker> ?
15:40:44 <TrueBrain> UpdateStationAccEmpty()?
15:40:55 <Aali> src/station_cmd.cpp:567: void UpdateStationAcceptance(Station*, bool): Assertion `(rect.right >= rect.left) == !st->rect.IsEmpty()' failed.
15:41:11 <planetmaker> oh, well, I consider you intelligent enough to concatenate that :)
15:41:20 <planetmaker> maybe I was mistaken? :P
15:41:24 <TrueBrain> Aali: that sounds more useful
15:41:35 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: your paste really doesn't make sense ;)
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15:41:49 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: but that's exactly what the server exited with.
15:41:58 <planetmaker> It's copy&paste from xterm.
15:42:14 <TrueBrain> well, with what Aali says I hope :)
15:42:21 <planetmaker> no
15:42:27 <Aali> perhaps the window was resized
15:42:28 <Rubidium> then your xterm is broke
15:42:36 <planetmaker> that maybe...
15:42:43 <planetmaker> it's a screen -x session.
15:43:02 <planetmaker> sorry, yes. Then I've seen the error and it's know :)
15:43:13 <planetmaker> and fixed.
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15:53:01 <frosch123> planetmaker: the last known thing causing that assertion was fixed in r14469
15:56:38 <planetmaker> hm... we run that one.
15:57:34 <frosch123> then provide a savegame that triggers it
15:58:02 <planetmaker> yep. one moment, we try :)
16:09:37 <planetmaker> frosch: it happens only, if the buoy was once used by a ship. savegame: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/save/buoycrash.sav
16:09:46 <planetmaker> delete for instance Wranley buoy 3
16:10:19 <planetmaker> frosch123: ^
16:10:46 <planetmaker> shall I open a bug report?
16:11:11 <frosch123> "deleting buoy" sounds like a hint, thanks :)
16:11:54 <planetmaker> no problem, my pleasure. Also thank avdg
16:13:49 <planetmaker> you might need our grf pack in order to load it :)
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16:14:22 <planetmaker> but I guess you expected that :)
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16:35:26 <Chrill> Brianetta, how do you make it so that the vehicles in your server always have a huge lifespan?
16:35:38 <Chrill> 60-70yrs?
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16:37:28 <Brianetta> Chrill: There's a patch setting
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17:04:13 <Roujin> cheers
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17:43:35 <Sacro> @seen lude
17:43:35 <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have not seen lude.
17:43:36 <Sacro> @seen ludde
17:43:36 <DorpsGek> Sacro: ludde was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <ludde> ;)
17:44:22 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_letzte_Lude
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17:45:59 <yorick> spotify went complaining about me not being in sweden
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17:51:38 <ln> spotify working fine for me.
17:53:28 <yorick> yes, but you have your account set up to the country you're in
17:54:08 *** Metalcore is now known as MetalDiningHall
17:54:43 <ln> correct.
17:54:46 <babyottd> is correct, yes
17:55:54 <yorick> ...
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17:56:44 <TrueBrain> babyottd: how do you know
17:56:45 <TrueBrain> ?
17:56:49 <Eddi|zuHause> if you lack music to listen to, open this: http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swf :p
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17:58:01 <murray> this one is also nice, http://dagobah.biz/flash/Ievas_polka.swf
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18:01:48 <yorick> how already-known
18:02:19 <murray> mine too?
18:03:11 <yorick> no
18:03:20 <murray> :D
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18:04:10 <Eddi|zuHause> well it was the entire purpose of that posting, that it's already known :p
18:05:21 <Bjarni> is it a good or bad sign that I knew what to expect based on the URL alone?
18:05:40 <Wolf01> http://static.stileproject.com/flash/hypnotits.swf this is better
18:06:08 <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: yes.
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18:06:27 <Wolf01> Sacro!!! come here! there's something for you
18:07:08 <Bjarni> ...
18:07:13 <Bjarni> is it a or b?
18:07:16 <Bjarni> answer: yes
18:07:19 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: sounds scary?
18:07:43 <Wolf01> no, he always wants tits :D
18:08:07 <Bjarni> he highlights on tits
18:08:11 <Wolf01> XD
18:08:14 <Rexxars> lol
18:08:14 <Bjarni> with a special sound or something
18:08:38 <Rexxars> a little wav file shouting "tits" I would assume
18:08:44 <Sacro> Wolf01: yes>
18:09:10 <Bjarni> see
18:09:11 <Wolf01> did you click on the last link?
18:09:14 <Bjarni> he got highlighted
18:09:18 <Wolf01> eheh
18:09:36 <Bjarni> btw lol @ the link
18:09:37 * Sacro clicks
18:09:44 <Rexxars> why is she holding a leek?
18:09:47 <Bjarni> and now we lost Sacro for hours
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18:10:19 <burtybob> lol
18:10:34 <Bjarni> <Rexxars> why is she holding a leek? <-- it's a copy of the original leek swinging swf from the previous link
18:10:46 * Sacro is washing up actually
18:10:50 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause> if you lack music to listen to, open this: http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swf :p <-- that one
18:11:02 <Sacro> Wolf01: seen it
18:11:03 <Bjarni> Sacro: you came that fast?
18:11:08 <murray> <@Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause> if you lack music to listen to, open this: http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swf :p <-- that one <-- there he explains it
18:11:10 <Eddi|zuHause> thanks for the useless highlight, anyway
18:11:18 <Bjarni> oops
18:11:22 <Sacro> http://www.meatspin.com is much more mesmorising and muhc better music
18:11:23 <Eddi|zuHause> s/,/s,/
18:11:52 *** Sacro was kicked by Bjarni (that link is no good)
18:12:00 <Bjarni> >_<
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18:12:13 * Bjarni goes to wash his eyes
18:12:15 <Sacro> Bjarni: works here
18:12:34 <Bjarni> ignorance is bliss
18:12:35 * murray whistles to "right round"
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18:13:50 <Sacro> a couple of people have ping'd out 4 minutes after I posted meatspin...
18:14:17 <murray> lol
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18:14:32 * Sacro wonders if I got them
18:14:32 <burtybob> lol
18:14:36 <Sacro> Xerres: did you click the link?
18:14:54 <Eddi|zuHause> only that the pingout time is 8 minutes ;)
18:15:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: 480 seconds is...
18:15:10 <Sacro> *counts*
18:15:14 <Sacro> so it is
18:16:22 <Bjarni> 48/6=8
18:16:36 <Bjarni> even Sacro should be able to do that without electronic help
18:16:58 <Sacro> he uses fingers
18:17:05 <murray> @calc 48/6
18:17:05 <DorpsGek> murray: 8
18:17:21 <Sacro> where did 48 come from?
18:17:22 <Sacro> oh yes
18:17:25 <Sacro> div both sides by 10
18:17:38 <murray> @calc (48/10)/(6/10)
18:17:38 <DorpsGek> murray: 8
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18:18:19 <burtybob> * burtybob rolls eyes
18:18:56 * TrueBrain wonders if burtybob is the new babyottd
18:19:09 * Sacro wonders that too
18:19:34 * Born_Acorn wonders about wondering that also.
18:19:51 * murray wonders about all this wondering
18:20:01 * Born_Acorn ponders instead.
18:20:11 * Sacro ponders Born_Acorn
18:20:19 * orudge plunders Born_Acorn
18:20:28 * Born_Acorn burns down orudge.
18:20:30 <orudge> :(
18:20:50 <TrueBrain> @kick Born_Acorn /me kicks Born_Acorn (don't burn people, it is not nice)
18:20:50 *** Born_Acorn was kicked by DorpsGek (/me kicks Born_Acorn (don't burn people, it is not nice))
18:21:09 <TrueBrain> action, reaction ;))
18:21:13 <burtybob> lol
18:21:14 <Sacro> it's only an orudge
18:21:17 <Sacro> we can always build more
18:21:21 <burtybob> lol
18:21:38 <orudge> lies >:(
18:21:41 <burtybob> no truebrain i am not the new babyottd, wait what you mean by that??
18:23:48 <murray> "You have sat through 1541 spins"
18:24:30 <Sacro> murray: not bad
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18:29:08 <burtybob> ok im a total newbie to irc so how do you do them "* Born_Acorn burns down orudge." etc?? i looked on the help of mirc but could not find it undern commands :/.
18:29:33 <planetmaker> type /me
18:29:34 * burtybob burtybob thinks
18:29:42 <burtybob> ahh found it thanks lol
18:29:52 * burtybob burtybob bangs head for being dopey
18:32:00 <orudge> no
18:32:03 <orudge> don't type /me burtybob
18:32:04 <orudge> just type /me
18:32:23 * burtybob thank you orudge
18:32:31 <burtybob> oops thank you orduge
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18:33:15 <Bjarni> hello Burtybob
18:33:25 <Bjarni> how are you today?
18:33:38 <yorick> wth
18:33:51 <ln> !words
18:33:51 <babyottd> I know 4370 words (26331 contexts, 6.03 per word), 3691 lines.
18:34:02 <ln> ok, at least Burtybob didn't respond
18:34:09 <Bjarni> :)
18:34:15 <Burtybob> hey?
18:34:17 <yorick> Trekky0623 (~chatzilla@225x100.ouraynet.com) is binnengekomen bij #? <Trekky0623> yorick * Trekky0623 (~chatzilla@225x100.ouraynet.com) heeft #? verlaten
18:34:27 <Bjarni> hello babyottd
18:34:33 <Bjarni> how are you today? :)
18:34:49 <TrueBrain> yorick: we don't care
18:35:15 <Eddi|zuHause> yorick: we really could have lived without that information
18:36:26 <Bjarni> Burtybob: any particular reason why you try to make unauthorised access to me?
18:37:38 <Burtybob> Bjarni: no im just playing about with all the little buttons everywhere at the moment... i guess that would have been the ping button then
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18:38:27 <Bjarni> such buttons could be dangerous. You never know how the reaction might end up
18:38:35 <Bjarni> like I have one saying "kick" :P
18:39:11 <Bjarni> I'm getting hungry
18:39:12 <Bjarni> bbl
18:39:18 <Burtybob> hmmm.... but couldnt the user just re-connect? wouldn't it be better to use the button labeled Ban, Kick
18:39:24 <Burtybob> see ya laters the bjarni
18:39:27 <TrueBrain> @deop Bjarni
18:39:27 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -o Bjarni
18:39:29 <TrueBrain> you were saying?
18:42:39 <murray> @hug Bjarni
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18:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the word "kick" makes you get hungry?
18:44:28 <Eddi|zuHause> must be a danish thing...
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18:44:43 <Eddi|zuHause> what ever word they hear makes them think about butter cookies :p
18:46:11 <Burtybob> mmmm cookies
18:46:41 <yorick> wtf...flat earth society just highlighted me, and then banned me
18:47:05 <yorick> when I said it was round
18:47:22 <babyottd> it is round the bend
18:51:41 <Burtybob> lol
18:58:29 <Sacro> mmm, danish bacon
18:59:23 <petern> Sacro! http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/cyb0rfox/nonukes.jpg (nsfw)
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19:03:02 <Euro_swallow> Does anyone happen to have a copy of the routing restrictions patch lying around?
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19:06:23 <Burtybob> wow the irc seems to have come alive now
19:06:45 <Eddi|zuHause> how about searching the forums?
19:07:35 <ln> what, there are three Bens here?
19:07:38 <Bjarni> petern: not safe for environment or reproduction either
19:07:50 <Brianetta> !quit
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19:08:04 <Bjarni> we got 3 Bens?
19:08:20 <Bjarni> so we have Little Ben, Middle Ben and Big Ben?
19:08:28 <yorick> who's the owner of babyottd actually?
19:08:42 <Bjarni> babyottd
19:08:45 <ln> yorick: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
19:08:46 <ben_goodger> Brianetta: hey, I was pasting blog entries into him
19:08:49 <Bjarni> it's working on it's own free will
19:09:02 <Brianetta> ben_goodger: I know; I was getting th econversation spammed off my screen.
19:09:02 <Euro_swallow> Eddi|zuHause, I searched the forums, but the author deleted his patch
19:09:14 <Aali> Euro_swallow: isn't that patch very, very old?
19:09:44 <ben_goodger> I resent the word "spammed"
19:09:51 <Euro_swallow> I know its very old
19:10:09 <Euro_swallow> Actually I want to use it as inspiration for a new patch :)
19:10:44 <Bjarni> <yorick> wtf...flat earth society just highlighted me, and then banned me <-- maybe you should have started of slowly
19:10:51 <Bjarni> like saying that it's curved
19:10:52 <Aali> Euro_swallow: maybe you could get in touch with the original author then?
19:11:05 <Bjarni> Euro_swallow: get a decent name
19:11:05 <ben_goodger> heh
19:11:28 <Sacro> petern: interesting...
19:12:25 <ben_goodger> Euro_swallow: try "Hirundo dimidiata"
19:12:51 <Aali> he has a decent nickname :(
19:12:56 <Euro_swallow> *grabs his latin dictionary*
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19:13:14 <ben_goodger> Euro_swallow: it's the taxonomical name for a pleasant species of swallow
19:13:26 <ben_goodger> that lives in europe...
19:13:50 <ben_goodger> how can the flat earth society possibly justify their own existence? have they not seen the videos of the earth being spherical?
19:14:10 <Burtybob> fair point there ben_g
19:14:19 <Aali> ben_goodger: they're fake
19:14:28 <Aali> the moon landings never happened
19:14:29 <Aali> etc
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19:14:56 <Bjarni> ben_goodger: they believe those videos and pictures to be faked by organisations like NASA in order to get fundings that they will then keep for personal use
19:15:04 <ben_goodger> ah
19:15:20 <Eddi|zuHause> ben_goodger: all pictures i have ever seen of the earth were flat, ergo the earth must be flat
19:15:35 <Bjarni> the earth isn't flat
19:15:36 <ben_goodger> what about the less direct evidence, such as geometry? the ancient greeks knew the earth was round, so did the egyptians and such
19:15:40 <Bjarni> there are hills everywhere
19:15:46 <TrueBrain> stupid windows .. why doesn't have it something like linux, that I can put a key on a usb stick, and that only with that key I can login under a certain user :(
19:15:58 <ben_goodger> it does.
19:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause> the ancient greeks and the egyptians were all misguided, they didn't believe in jesus either
19:16:17 <Aali> Eddi|zuHause: you're telling me you've never seen an earthglobe?
19:16:24 <ben_goodger> your total with tax comes to £89.95 per user. paper or plastic?
19:16:34 <Bjarni> <ben_goodger> what about the less direct evidence, such as geometry? <-- they think the earth is a disc. The north pole is in the middle and the south pole is on the outer edge
19:16:51 <Eddi|zuHause> Aali: no, i'm making up silly arguments
19:16:55 <ben_goodger> hmm
19:17:02 <Bjarni> and travelling around the earth is just travelling in circles
19:17:12 <Aali> Eddi|zuHause: and i'm making up silly comebacks
19:17:38 <ben_goodger> I suppose there's no need to point out that those civilisations predate jesus, but I might provoke interesting debate by saying that one of them invented his legendary characteristics which were then adapted
19:17:44 <Bjarni> but the flat earth guys can't explain stuff like gravity :P
19:18:00 <ben_goodger> sure they can
19:18:04 <Bjarni> how?
19:18:16 <Aali> we can't really explain gravity either
19:18:21 <Bjarni> lol
19:18:29 <Eddi|zuHause> gravity might be possible, but how are they explaining the coriolis power?
19:18:30 <ben_goodger> well, with a disc-shaped earth, the weight force will still point "down"
19:18:55 <ben_goodger> similarly if the disc is spinning, coriolis force would still effect
19:19:06 <ben_goodger> *the
19:19:24 <Bjarni> but then the disc would fall too
19:19:41 <ben_goodger> er, no
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19:19:57 <ben_goodger> well, actually, yes
19:20:02 <Eddi|zuHause> the disc is swimming in water, why would it fall down?
19:20:15 <ben_goodger> it would fall perpetually toward the sun in an arrangement known as "orbit"
19:20:22 <Burtybob> lol
19:20:52 <ben_goodger> as indeed does the oblate-spheroid earth
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19:20:58 <ben_goodger> brb
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19:21:26 <Bjarni> if the earth is a disc, then the oceans would be flat
19:21:44 <Bjarni> then how can ships hide below the horizon?
19:21:54 <ln> they sink
19:22:05 <FauxFaux> The light is suck by the disc's gravity.
19:22:08 <FauxFaux> *sunk
19:23:09 <Aali> that would require some pretty powerful gravity
19:23:29 <Bjarni> 大和 had observation planes because the range of the main guns were longer than the physical max visibility range due to the curved water
19:23:46 <Bjarni> I think it had a shooting range of 42 km
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19:24:13 * TrueBrain hates windows :(
19:24:19 <Bjarni> me too
19:24:48 <TrueBrain> 'curved water' ... cool
19:24:53 <Bjarni> at uni if you boot into windows you will get problems with networking, printing, speed and so on
19:25:03 <Bjarni> if you boot into linux then it's fast and everything works
19:25:09 * Burtybob prefer ubuntu but doesn't mind windows
19:25:19 * Burtybob thinks windows are great for looking out of
19:25:30 <TrueBrain> I just want that when you put an USB stick in a computer, it logs in as administrator .. and that there is no password on the administrator account
19:25:39 <TrueBrain> but it seems that is onyl possible with smartcards ... which I don't have/want
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19:33:41 <Roujin> @logs
19:33:44 <Roujin> !logs
19:33:44 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
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20:14:21 <ln> http://junk.kegetys.net/suihku-irc.jpg
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20:15:00 <Bjarni> TV in bath...
20:15:11 <Bjarni> without the high voltage tube
20:15:43 <Bjarni> hmm
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20:15:55 <Bjarni> looks more like a booting screen rather than teletext
20:16:12 <Bjarni> but I guess both would be possible
20:16:18 <SpComb> it's irssi
20:16:58 <SpComb> rear-projection with a beamer
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20:17:48 <Swallow> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=40135 <- check the topic title
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20:18:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> "all the way from a to z" :p
20:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> and of course a jpeg screenshot...
20:19:31 <ln> Bjarni: omg, you don't even recognize irssi when you see one?
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20:22:09 <Burtybob> Swallow: rofl
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20:24:30 <Bjarni> ln: it would appear so
20:24:44 <Bjarni> but then again I'm not used to see any IRC channel inside a bathroom
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20:25:13 <ln> nor is any IRC channel used to seeing you inside a bathroom
20:27:05 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the #me-in-the-bathroom channel?
20:27:44 <Tefad> that could be pretty bad Eddi|zuHause
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20:28:03 <Eddi|zuHause> although, judging from other examples, there might not be any people in bathrooms in there :p
20:28:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, there aren't any lesbians in #lesbians either
20:29:06 <Burtybob> rofl
20:30:30 <ln> Burtybob: you have failed the Turing test.
20:31:19 <Progman> Eddi|zuHause: [citation needed] gbo/ibash
20:31:20 <Tefad> haha
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20:32:53 <Progman> http://ibash.de/zitat_8015.html (german)
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20:37:23 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i didn't refer to that particular quote...
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20:38:22 <Bjarni> Progman: well.... I think that quote tells us that people know about what the channel name is
20:38:34 <Bjarni> they know about php, playstation and lesbians
20:38:44 <Bjarni> it's not like they are php, playstation or lesbians
20:40:52 <Burtybob> lol and eh whats the turing test? or am i being a dumb newbie again?
20:41:50 <Bjarni> lol
20:42:01 <Bjarni> something like that :D
20:42:23 <Bjarni> though you have no idea what the test is really about
20:42:32 <Bjarni> hmm
20:42:42 * Bjarni feels silly
20:42:55 <Bjarni> note to self: don't explain stuff to bots
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20:43:11 <Eddi|zuHause> http://xkcd.com/329/
20:44:32 <Bjarni> well
20:44:39 <Bjarni> I DO work faster with digital problems
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20:47:36 <Sacro> mmm
20:47:41 <Sacro> php, playstation and lesbians
20:47:45 <Sacro> sounds like my kinda evening
20:47:51 <Wolf01> omg
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20:51:05 <Burtybob> Sacro: you are so right but in which order
20:51:20 <Burtybob> who is the bot you are explainin stuff to bjarni?
20:51:44 <Bjarni> you go figure that one out
20:51:48 <Bjarni> :P
20:52:24 <TrueBrain> sometimes I don't want to know how Bjarni's brain works ..
20:52:55 <Bjarni> you aren't allowed to learn that
20:53:06 <Bjarni> you see I prefer to keep my brain all to myself
20:53:14 <Bjarni> so you can't borrow it
20:54:06 <Bjarni> btw I tried something quite unexpected the other day
20:54:31 <Bjarni> you know how people in here always yell at me whenever I switch have/has
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20:55:07 <TrueBrain> I banned someone for that today ..
20:55:15 <Bjarni> well I noticed another guy doing the same thing and I got bothered a bit by it since incorrect grammar makes it harder to read (it wasn't the only mistake)
20:55:24 <Bjarni> then I got flamed for pointing it out
20:55:46 <Bjarni> with arguments that I couldn't understand the greatness of l33t and stuff like that
20:55:54 <Burtybob> poor bjarni
20:56:18 <Bjarni> then I decided that I can't communicate with people like that
20:56:21 <Bjarni> and left
20:56:24 <Bjarni> for good
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20:56:49 <Bjarni> (I did consider leaving even before that happened)
20:57:38 <Bjarni> but life isn't fair
20:57:39 <TrueBrain> so that si all what is needed to make you leave?! :p :p :p (kidding Bjarni :) I couldn't resist :))
20:57:56 <Bjarni> no
20:58:13 <Bjarni> you would ALL have to start acting braindead
20:58:36 <Bjarni> stating really weird stuff and flaming everybody who disagrees
20:58:44 <Bjarni> it was like admin trolling o_O
20:59:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure they whacked off for driving away an asshole like that from their channel :p
20:59:33 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: you do realise this is #openttd, right? :)
21:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> <Bjarni> stating really weird stuff and flaming everybody who disagrees <- have you ever read this channel?
21:00:22 <Bjarni> yeah
21:00:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i think not :p
21:00:52 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: nobody cares what you think
21:00:58 <Eddi|zuHause> well, this is a prime example. you stated weird stuff, and everyone flames you :p
21:01:05 <Bjarni> I'm op so my statement has higher value
21:01:07 <Sacro> Yes, lets all flame Bjarni
21:01:19 <Sacro> Bjarni: you are danish so it's automatically bacon tasting
21:01:27 <Bjarni> ...
21:01:42 <Sacro> danish bacon, danish bacon, nommy nommy nommy nommy nomnomnom
21:01:43 <Bjarni> if only a girl would tell me that
21:02:01 <Bjarni> then I would disagree and offer to prove it
21:02:11 <Bjarni> but that wouldn't work with Sacro
21:02:13 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: you are not an op ...
21:02:21 <Bjarni> oh right
21:02:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bjarni
21:02:49 <Bjarni> now I am
21:02:51 <TrueBrain> @deop Bjarni
21:02:51 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -o Bjarni
21:02:53 <TrueBrain> and stay down
21:02:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bjarni
21:03:08 <Sacro> @deop Bjarni
21:03:15 <Sacro> @deop Bjarni
21:03:16 <Bjarni> @kick Sacro
21:03:17 <Sacro> :(
21:03:21 <Sacro> :'(
21:03:25 <Sacro> :''(
21:03:27 <Bjarni> @ isn't working
21:03:28 <Sacro> :'''(
21:03:33 <murray> @calc 2+2
21:03:33 <DorpsGek> murray: 4
21:04:07 <Bjarni> murray: how many fingers do you have?
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21:06:39 <glx> @kick Sacro it works for me
21:06:39 *** Sacro was kicked by DorpsGek (it works for me)
21:06:39 <ln> http://cherrypal.com/SHOP.html
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21:11:57 <murray> i need no fingers! i let the foolish mortals do my work!
21:12:09 <Bjarni> oh right
21:12:25 <Burtybob> fair point
21:12:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so DorpsGek is considered a mortal now?
21:12:54 <Bjarni> that's a pretty good question
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21:13:21 <Bjarni> however DorpsGek isn't considered evil and that's the same as mortal in the eyes of a demonic skull
21:13:29 <Mortal> :(
21:13:29 <Bjarni> CIA-5 however is pure evil
21:13:57 <Bjarni> o_O
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21:14:06 <Bjarni> when did Mortal show up here?
21:14:23 <Mortal> I have union, you know
21:14:37 <Bjarni> unions are evil
21:14:53 * glx wonders when CIA-5 will start to spam the channel :)
21:15:00 <Mortal> bjarni, I showed up a couple months ago
21:15:09 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -o Bjarni
21:15:10 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +b *!~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk
21:15:11 *** Bjarni was kicked by DorpsGek (I AM evil!!)
21:15:21 <Mortal> ohshiii
21:15:26 <Mortal> I think that's pretty close to my hostmask
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21:16:06 <Mortal> yep, except I'm on static IP and he's on dynamic, that could as well have been me
21:16:09 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -b *!~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk
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21:16:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bjarni
21:16:26 <Bjarni> see
21:16:30 <Bjarni> pure evil
21:16:34 <murray> :o
21:16:39 <Bjarni> !logs
21:16:39 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
21:16:51 <Mortal> bjarni, careful with that thing, you almost hit me
21:17:08 <Bjarni> pure evil
21:17:50 <Mortal> hmm... I know there's latency and all, but did spcomb really respond before he got the message? from his frame of reference
21:17:53 <Bjarni> banning a static IP is more fun than banning a dynamic one
21:18:09 <Bjarni> Mortal: yes
21:18:15 <Mortal> *@*.static.dsl.tele.dk?
21:18:37 <murray> how about *.dk
21:18:39 <Bjarni> SpComb is phaseshifted so he can tell the future for the next sec
21:18:53 <Bjarni> how about *!*@*
21:19:02 <Mortal> don't mine if you do murray
21:19:10 * TrueBrain sets mode +b *@*.static.dsl.tele.dk
21:19:13 <Mortal> noooo
21:19:22 <Bjarni> well
21:19:29 <Bjarni> be banned me so he might as well ban you too
21:19:48 <Mortal> ehhh wait, truebrain is -o? how does oftc work again?
21:20:02 <SpComb> Mortal: actually, the IRC chats all go backwards for me in my frame of reference :(
21:20:19 <glx> Mortal: it was not TB, it was DorpsGek
21:20:25 <SpComb> I ask the questions after people answer them, and people reply to me before I ask them
21:20:29 <SpComb> it's difficult sometimes
21:20:30 <Mortal> glx, I got TB here
21:20:52 <TrueBrain> glx: he was refering to my +b *@*.static.dsl.tele.dk
21:21:00 <TrueBrain> glx: clearly he doesn't understand
21:21:04 <TrueBrain> he still things there is a spoon
21:21:05 <Bjarni> yeah
21:21:08 <glx> ha the fake thing
21:21:38 <TrueBrain> +b should also act as a +q
21:21:47 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +b *!*@*.static.dsl.tele.dk
21:21:55 <glx> mode changes are shown in a different color and language when they are real
21:21:56 <TrueBrain> Mortal: does that work? :p
21:22:09 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -b *!*@*.static.dsl.tele.dk
21:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> ha ha :p
21:22:21 <TrueBrain> glx: don't tell him
21:22:22 <Mortal> I was about to fire up irssi on my vps
21:22:22 <TrueBrain> that is no fun!
21:22:30 <Mortal> but yeah it sure did
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21:25:44 <Bjarni> hello babyottd
21:26:08 <babyottd> hello bjarni
21:26:10 <TrueBrain> Mortal: hehe :)
21:26:16 <Burtybob> hey babyottd
21:26:43 <glx> how are you babyottd?
21:26:59 <babyottd> how are they going to play
21:27:33 <ln> babyottd: are you excited about the Turing test?
21:27:37 <TrueBrain> no babyottd, the question was: how are you?
21:28:15 <babyottd> the turing test
21:28:31 <babyottd> the question was not important
21:28:57 <Sacro> babyottd: what are epic
21:29:07 <Mortal> oh wow
21:29:09 <Vikthor> sometimes I think it's just Brianetta pulling our leg
21:29:24 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14496 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix: give a clear warning when people disable zlib (or when it wasn't detected), but keep on going nevertheless (on request by Rubidium)
21:29:47 <Sacro> It should mention the lack of zlib at the end of ./configure
21:29:50 <babyottd> they could end me
21:29:56 <Sacro> but make should still be able to be done
21:30:02 <Sacro> babyottd: why would we want to end you
21:30:04 <babyottd> the end of
21:30:11 <Sacro> the end of the world as we know it?
21:30:21 <Bjarni> looks like babyottd was fired :/
21:30:22 <Vikthor> End of the Universe
21:30:24 <babyottd> looks of it
21:30:24 <babyottd> to end you
21:30:43 <Sacro> babyottd: Bjarni likes men
21:30:46 <babyottd> or we love men ?
21:30:57 <Sacro> no, we don't love men, Bjarni loves men
21:31:00 <babyottd> he loves aqua
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21:31:13 <Sacro> Everyone loves aqua
21:31:13 <Bjarni> well
21:31:14 <babyottd> as well
21:31:16 <babyottd> Sacro loves men
21:31:20 <Bjarni> I prefer Aqua over men :)
21:31:20 <Sacro> :(
21:31:21 <babyottd> :'(
21:31:31 <Sacro> babyottd: No
21:31:34 <babyottd> still no idea
21:31:36 <Sacro> babyottd: forget Sacro loves men
21:31:41 <Sacro> babyottd: Bjarni loves men
21:31:44 <babyottd> Sacro loves men
21:31:47 <Sacro> D:
21:31:48 *** Sacro was kicked by Bjarni (liar)
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21:31:57 <Sacro> Bjarni: deja vu
21:32:42 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14497 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix: if freetype was not detected or disabled, skip fontconfig detection, unless explicit requested (on request by Rubidium)
21:32:55 <TrueBrain> @kban Bjarni 60 stop kicking people, it is annoying
21:32:55 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -o Bjarni
21:32:56 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +b *!~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk
21:32:57 *** Bjarni was kicked by DorpsGek (stop kicking people, it is annoying)
21:33:00 <Brianetta> Sacro: babyottd treats every IRC nick he sees as a token to be replaced with any other
21:33:00 <babyottd> a nick, and the waggle dance
21:33:11 <Sacro> Brianetta: yes, but he picks on me
21:33:15 <TrueBrain> Sacro: you just can't convince him otherwise .. so it has to be true :)
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21:33:20 <Brianetta> That's because he's responding to you
21:33:20 <babyottd> because they have the queen pheromone applied
21:33:26 <Sacro> wtf
21:33:26 <babyottd> wtf
21:33:32 *** Rubidium sets mode: +v babyottd
21:33:33 <Eddi|zuHause> opwars!
21:33:46 <TrueBrain> Sacro: at least he is in agreement with the rest of this channel ;)
21:33:47 <Rubidium> babyottd: that's for being more truthful than Sacro!
21:33:55 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -b *!~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk
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21:34:26 <TrueBrain> I am all out of candy :(
21:34:28 <babyottd> i love rubidium like a man
21:34:34 <babyottd> is out getting drunk while there here
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21:34:53 <TrueBrain> haha @ babyottd .. I love you babyottd :)
21:34:58 <babyottd> lol @ nationstates 2
21:35:01 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, who has given that alcohol to the baby?
21:35:07 <babyottd> a given time, try 10 minutes
21:35:18 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: most likely the same person who banned me
21:35:30 <babyottd> most likely the same language roots, but bots naming people ?
21:36:18 * Rubidium assumes babyottd is female ;)
21:36:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a dangerous kind of assumption in an IRC channel :p
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21:38:31 <Bjarni> specially from somebody claiming that everybody loves men
21:38:38 <babyottd> so somebody said something like that
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21:42:58 <TrueBrain> petern: still awake?
21:43:04 <babyottd> i still maintain you're a bot
21:43:24 <ln> someone has been teaching babyottd some nasty vocabulary.
21:43:27 <babyottd> nasty vocabulary
21:43:33 <ln> precisely.
21:43:46 <Bjarni> babyottd: dp you like Deltic?
21:43:48 <babyottd> a deltic
21:43:51 <Bjarni> yeah
21:44:05 <Bjarni> you know
21:44:08 <Bjarni> the locomotive
21:44:11 <babyottd> quite know what you call it : )
21:44:14 <babyottd> Bjarni is good idea of the time
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21:44:55 <Bjarni> babyottd: do you know of any interesting live steam events?
21:45:29 <Brianetta> we love the sound
21:45:36 <Bjarni> yeah
21:45:38 <ln> class conflict
21:45:58 <Bjarni> even though the one that visited us during last visit sounded really bad :(
21:46:06 <babyottd> during the winter cluster, the cells of
21:46:08 <Bjarni> it looked really nice though
21:46:13 <babyottd> a crash site looked familar
21:46:28 <Bjarni> babyottd: do you crash your trains often?
21:46:29 <babyottd> a crash
21:46:44 <SpComb> babyottd: what's your name?
21:46:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i think babyottd has the upper hand in this conversation ;)
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21:46:58 <babyottd> is acting rude right now hand them to me doing something
21:47:02 <TrueBrain> I agree with Eddi|zuHause
21:47:44 <ln> babyottd: victory?
21:47:52 <babyottd> do ? spin off 180 and arsefuck a tree
21:48:12 <Brianetta> in a deltic?
21:48:34 <TrueBrain> @kick babyottd don't use such strong words, there are little people here
21:48:34 *** babyottd was kicked by DorpsGek (don't use such strong words, there are little people here)
21:48:40 <TrueBrain> (I do need to keep up my kcik record ;))
21:49:02 <Bjarni> I think trees in a Deltic is a sign of poor condition
21:49:38 <Sacro> x3
21:49:40 <Sacro> Heya!
21:50:32 <Bjarni> babyottd is busy, Sacro is busy, then babyottd is gone and Sacro is back
21:50:37 <Bjarni> what happened? :P
21:50:52 <Sacro> someone set us up the bomb
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21:51:15 <Brianetta> do what to a tree?
21:51:15 <babyottd> i do have that
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21:51:32 <Wolf01> 'night
21:51:32 <babyottd> night
21:51:39 <Wolf01> >_>
21:51:46 <ln> he was quick enough for Wolf01!
21:51:49 <babyottd> quick, run !
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21:54:17 <ln> babyottd: what is the worst word you can say?
21:54:37 <Brianetta> mary had a little lamb
21:54:37 <babyottd> mary had a configure wrapper around makefile, )
21:54:50 <Brianetta> little lamb
21:54:50 <babyottd> mary had a little lamb !
21:54:55 <Brianetta> little lamb
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21:55:10 <Brianetta> hello Tino the Dane
21:55:10 <babyottd> hello Brianetta
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21:55:38 <ln> haha, now that would make an excellent song, "mary had a configure wrapper around makefile"
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21:55:42 <babyottd> the configure line
21:56:05 <TrueBrain> you like that, huh? punk!
21:56:07 <TrueBrain> ya talking to me?!
21:56:08 <babyottd> sounds like a dog/
21:56:12 <babyottd> you see ya laters the bjarni
21:57:23 <TrueBrain> there is no 'the' bjarni
21:57:23 <babyottd> bjarni
21:57:58 <ln> babyottd: sounds revolutionary
21:58:01 <TrueBrain> Brianetta: now babyottd is just annoying :p
21:58:26 * babyottd is just the awesome bot
21:58:57 <TrueBrain> hahaha
22:01:47 <ln> babyottd: what is your favorite book?
22:02:08 <babyottd> your favourite book on the shelf
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22:04:14 <ln> babyottd: could you elaborate
22:04:21 <babyottd> i could, but is it a good laugh
22:05:25 <Eddi|zuHause> who said pybots are not fun when they are mature? :p
22:05:44 <Brianetta> I did )-:
22:06:52 <ln> babyottd: tell us about class conflict and struggle.
22:06:55 <babyottd> calling us nutters
22:07:03 <ln> right
22:07:05 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14498 /branches/noai/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIRail::BuildNewGRFRailStation. This calls callback 18 to let a NewGRF provide the station class / id to build, so we don't end up with only the default stations on the map. (Yexo)
22:07:06 <babyottd> oh right : p
22:07:12 <babyottd> buttons provide physical feedback
22:07:32 <Bjarni> I want buttons with chemical feedback
22:07:42 <Bjarni> and the feedback should be controlled from software
22:07:50 <babyottd> should be teached to talk about sacro : )
22:08:07 <ln> babyottd: *taught
22:08:09 <Bjarni> babyottd: what do you know about Sacro ?
22:08:15 <babyottd> gcc though, ln : no, once a week ago
22:08:20 <TrueBrain> babyottd: well, he is gay
22:08:21 <TrueBrain> that is for one
22:08:25 <babyottd> m gay, it is not as obscure
22:08:48 <Eddi|zuHause> lesbian for sure is not
22:08:49 <babyottd> jolteon is gay like sacro
22:08:55 <TrueBrain> lesbians are hot
22:09:13 <Brianetta> they are
22:09:19 <Sacro> indeed
22:09:23 <TrueBrain> lol :)
22:09:23 <babyottd> lol
22:10:08 <ln> only the ones who get paid
22:10:10 <babyottd> i get paid
22:10:23 <ln> babyottd: so you are a lesbian too?
22:10:24 <TrueBrain> but never laid
22:10:26 <Eddi|zuHause> by laughter?
22:10:26 <babyottd> is too hard : p
22:10:29 <Brianetta> you aren't a lesbian, babyottd
22:10:41 <babyottd> i've never heard of it ? i got the job even if there is no update, then definitely
22:10:50 <TrueBrain> it sure is too hard for you :)
22:12:41 <ln> babyottd: do you like mac and apple?
22:12:45 <babyottd> mac and solaris : p
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22:14:57 <ln> babyottd: not a bad combination either.
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22:17:51 <ln> this could be quick enough to run openttd: http://cherrypal.com/products.html
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22:19:31 <ln> Osai^zZz: not interesting
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22:19:59 <Osai^zZz> do I care?
22:20:32 <ln> Osai^zZz: yes
22:20:49 <babyottd> : who should care about xeryustc is targeted for termination ?
22:21:35 <XeryusTC> oh noes, not again :'(
22:21:39 <babyottd> noes, he founded gwr
22:22:29 <Osai^zZz> ln: but I don't... its not like I am changing my nick all the time and some persons find it interesting
22:22:39 <babyottd> a nick, and to the inside temperature is as low
22:22:44 <TrueBrain> night all
22:22:50 <Osai^zZz> night TB :>
22:22:54 <babyottd> night bjarni
22:23:28 <babyottd> good night truebrain
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22:26:33 <ln> another perfectly valid response.
22:26:40 <babyottd> ln hobbs, to be done perfectly fine
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22:27:02 <ln> babyottd: wtf is hobbs?
22:33:11 <Bjarni> "The Hobbs meter, is a device that records elapsed time"
22:33:19 <Bjarni> taken from wikipedia
22:33:24 <babyottd> that from your memory !
22:33:56 <Bjarni> "Hobbs is a genericized trademark for products generically called Engine Hour Meters" <-- same article
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22:42:09 <Bjarni> that Hobbs meter article is only about measuring time spent in air for planes
22:42:15 <babyottd> orudge outside air temperature
22:42:18 <Bjarni> however I installed one in a locomotive once
22:42:33 <babyottd> affected, however, granulomas most often appear in orudge Bjarni part, )
22:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> wth?
22:42:47 <babyottd> sane way around ?
22:43:17 <Bjarni> it's not for charging fees, but it's quite useful for the repairshop. It tells how many hours the engine has been running since last checkup
22:43:24 <babyottd> Bjarni, that is only useful if and
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22:43:48 <cyorxamp> Hey, I just copied my DOS discs files into my debian install of OpenTTD... I want the music too
22:43:58 <Bjarni> that's the .gm files
22:44:00 <babyottd> music files
22:44:05 <Eddi|zuHause> dos music is not supported
22:44:07 <cyorxamp> yeah but they don't exist on the disc
22:44:16 <Eddi|zuHause> as nobody could figure out how to decode the file
22:44:23 <cyorxamp> i.e. extract them?
22:44:32 <Eddi|zuHause> yes
22:44:32 <babyottd> yes
22:44:35 <cyorxamp> nevermind, I have a windows copy of TTDLX somewhee
22:44:40 <Bjarni> you need to decode the format before you can extract anything
22:44:42 <babyottd> make them into queens by continuing to feed him an encyclopedia and you can't expect that dir
22:45:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i think babyottd blew it with that sentence ;)
22:45:24 <Bjarni> cyorxamp: OpenTTD is made with the windows version in mind and the DOS support is an addon and it's not 100%
22:45:31 <babyottd> fully support latest gcc though
22:45:35 <cyorxamp> Bjarni, ok
22:45:35 <babyottd> ok
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22:47:36 <cyorxamp> found my windows copy
22:48:17 <ln> oh no, babyottd is gone again.
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22:48:24 <ln> \o/
22:48:59 <babyottd> \ o /
22:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> brian and sarah had a baby, and they called it ottd :p
22:49:05 <babyottd> right round baby right now
22:49:17 <Brianetta> The girlfriend I had before Helen was called Sarah )-:
22:49:17 <babyottd> sarah connor
22:49:26 <Brianetta> I wish
22:49:26 <babyottd> i wish
22:49:45 <Eddi|zuHause> that would not have been fun :p
22:54:26 <Brianetta> fun fun fun
22:54:26 <babyottd> i had fun haha
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22:58:48 <Brianetta> !words
22:58:48 <babyottd> I know 4509 words (27689 contexts, 6.14 per word), 4027 lines.
22:59:21 <Brianetta> !words
22:59:22 <babyottd> I know 4504 words (27643 contexts, 6.14 per word), 4026 lines.
22:59:28 <Brianetta> !words
22:59:28 <babyottd> I know 4497 words (27626 contexts, 6.14 per word), 4025 lines.
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22:59:46 <Eddi|zuHause> the number of contexts increases more than the number of words
22:59:55 <Brianetta> decreases
23:00:03 <Brianetta> I'm trying to prune all of ln's rubbish
23:00:13 <Eddi|zuHause> haha :p
23:00:43 <ln> rubbish... pure knowledge.
23:00:48 <Eddi|zuHause> what i mean, the number of contexts per word was 5.something yesterday
23:01:37 <Brianetta> Yes. As I remove encyclopedia articles, th enumber of sentences where a word only appears once decreases.
23:01:57 <Brianetta> !prune
23:02:27 <Brianetta> !purge
23:02:27 <babyottd> 2582 words to remove
23:02:28 <Brianetta> aha
23:02:33 <Brianetta> !purge 2582
23:02:53 <ln> good afternoon
23:02:56 <Brianetta> He's undergoing a lobotomy
23:03:03 <babyottd> Purge dictionary in 29.69s. 2582 words removed
23:03:07 <babyottd> never good afternoon
23:03:15 <Brianetta> !words
23:03:15 <babyottd> I know 1589 words (13705 contexts, 8.62 per word), 2401 lines.
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23:10:44 * SpComb wonders what ln has been doing
23:11:02 <SpComb> Brianetta: can it eat historical IRC logs?
23:11:41 <Brianetta> SpComb: It can, if IRC messages (join/part/kick/mode etc), nicks and timestamps are removed. I tried to feed it 30MB of logs.
23:11:57 <Brianetta> Unfortunately, after 16 hours of reading the log file, I had to kill it.
23:12:09 <Brianetta> It was paging to disk.
23:12:10 <bow^znc> is it a megahal?
23:12:40 <ln> SpComb: i've been pasting it useful information mostly from wikipedia. nothing nasty.
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23:13:14 <Brianetta> useful to whom?
23:13:18 <bow^znc> I found that doing some filtering on the logs to get rid of short lines (sentence fragments) helped when feeding logs to those :)
23:13:26 <cyorxamp> Lo, I've install OpenTTD on debian lenny - and copied the gm folder over from my windows TTDLX disc... however on the jukebox it just whizzes past them all without playing them
23:14:00 <cyorxamp> oh and I put the '-m extmidi' option on like the readme said
23:14:02 <ben_goodger> cyorxamp: *over here!*
23:14:14 <ben_goodger> midi doesn't seem to work at all on linux
23:14:55 <ben_goodger> I am on lenny myself, and the only thing that plays midi is timidity, which I have only got to run from the commandline (the ALSA interface doesn't do much) and lacks mappings for most instruments
23:15:06 <cyorxamp> well it doesn't work with or without the -m extmidi option in
23:15:09 <ben_goodger> granted, I have not paid a great deal of effort to fixing the ALSA interface
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23:15:29 <cyorxamp> the music is the best part tho!
23:15:31 <cyorxamp> :D
23:15:45 <ln> Brianetta: right, should have pasted about epic boobs or nothing then.
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23:16:12 <Eddi|zuHause> cyorxamp: well, you need a midi player
23:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause> like timidity
23:16:24 <ben_goodger> I suggest you run "timidity *path to mids*" then, it will go through the directory playing them
23:16:24 <cyorxamp> well I have installed freepats
23:16:39 <cyorxamp> which is what the readme said I'd need... and what debian already comes with
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23:25:17 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r14499 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_engine.cpp ai_engine.hpp ai_engine.hpp.sq): [NoAI] -Add: added AIEngine::CanPullCargo() which allows you to check if an engine can pull wagons with a given cargo
23:25:35 <cyorxamp> ben_goodger, all I had to do was apt-get install timidity
23:25:41 <cyorxamp> bingo, music works in game
23:26:13 <ben_goodger> well, you've had more luck than me then
23:26:19 <ben_goodger> beware of the missing voices and such
23:26:23 <cyorxamp> you need that extra option
23:26:32 <cyorxamp> when running openttd
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23:30:23 <Bjarni> <Brianetta> useful to whom? <--- some of the stuff was actually quite useful. It managed to introduce Deltic to a discussion about locomotives
23:30:40 <Bjarni> totally in context and that particular type wasn't mentioned before
23:30:43 <Brianetta> Bjarni: If I spot a Deltic reference in this database I'll leave it.
23:30:56 <Bjarni> it even commented correctly on the Deltic :D
23:31:07 <Brianetta> At the moment I'm battling with apiology
23:31:21 <Bjarni> but please purge all the dirty stuff
23:31:26 <cyorxamp> I don't suppose theres a zoomed in mode? i.e. I've got my 1680x1050 monitor with openttd on fullscreen - and things are a little small
23:31:31 <Bjarni> it's always out of context and never wanted
23:31:32 <cyorxamp> but changing res is a ball ache
23:31:52 * Sacro hates ball ache
23:31:53 <cyorxamp> ah! but it can change res!
23:31:56 <cyorxamp> cool
23:32:10 <Bjarni> cyorxamp: there is some pixel doubling but it's for windows only
23:32:22 <cyorxamp> damn you and your windows
23:32:30 <Bjarni> I don't use windows
23:32:37 <cyorxamp> :D
23:32:39 <cyorxamp> GOOD!
23:32:42 <Bjarni> I have never actually seen the pixel doubling in work
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23:32:59 <cyorxamp> well if it can startup in fullscreen on a lower res that is ok
23:33:06 <Sacro> right, how is OpenTTD bypassing pulseaudio
23:33:11 <cyorxamp> I usually use openoffice calc along side openttd as well
23:33:20 <Sacro> timidity is spotted
23:34:12 <glx> Bjarni: there was
23:34:17 <DaleStan> Yexo: Re: CB18. I have no clue. Check the source (grep for "18" and "callback" in the same line and go from there) or ask patchman.
23:35:24 * cyorxamp hugs timidity
23:35:31 <Sacro> ah
23:35:31 <Yexo> thx DaleStan, but we already decided that we won't use cb 18 for NoAI (at least not for trains)
23:35:34 <Sacro> padsp openttd
23:35:35 <Sacro> :D
23:37:16 <Bjarni> <glx> Bjarni: there was <-- so we got rid of pixel doubling?
23:37:40 <glx> with the blitters rewrite yes
23:38:01 <Yexo> DaleStan: http://paste.openttd.org/131237 <- Proposal for a new callback to give newgrfs more control over the wagons build. Any suggestions / comments?
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23:38:38 <DaleStan> First question is what's wrong with 18.
23:38:48 <Bjarni> I prefer the blitter :)
23:38:57 <DaleStan> But I don't really have time to talk or look now; I've got to leave again in about 5 minutes.
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23:39:13 <Bjarni> I think pixel doubling was bad to begin with as people should change resolution instead
23:39:24 <Bjarni> also because it was coded windows only (that's a stupid idea)
23:39:36 <Yexo> wrong with 18: 1) not extendable for more rail types. 2) it can't return a requirement like nars has for early steam engines (need caboose wagon)
23:40:10 <Yexo> DaleStan: I'll pm you tomorrow if anything changes
23:40:40 <DaleStan> OK. I'll look properly when I have time -- a couple hours.
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23:56:07 <Brianetta> !words
23:56:08 <babyottd> I know 3869 words (24686 contexts, 6.38 per word), 3819 lines.