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16:06:29 <planetmaker> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5951 <-- do you agree that it would make sense to have a setting which allows the window 'which station do you want to join to' always pops up?
16:06:47 <planetmaker> if so, I'll ask him to fix the many space vs. tab issues in that patch
16:07:51 <frosch123> always? even if there is nothing to join to?
16:07:54 <frosch123> sounds annoying
16:08:01 <frosch123> i wouldn't use it :p
16:08:08 <frosch123> same with bus stops
16:08:17 <frosch123> buildnig bus stops would be annoying as hell
16:08:33 <planetmaker> there's ctrl+click :)
16:09:15 <planetmaker> but yes, currently it always pops up
16:09:24 <planetmaker> that should be fixed, too. Agreed
16:09:44 <frosch123> well, i have no vision for this "no keyboard" approach
16:10:03 <frosch123> there are dozen of things you cannot do without keyboards
16:10:13 <frosch123> just autocomplete-signals comes to mind
16:10:16 <planetmaker> the distant join is also hidden for normal users currently on every platform. So this window / setting being default would not be exactly bad
16:10:25 <frosch123> so, overall i think it is quite pointless
16:10:29 <frosch123> let a patchpack do it
16:11:01 <planetmaker> do what? That patch?
16:11:15 <frosch123> isn't there some android port patch?
16:11:22 <frosch123> it can experiment for stuf that is useful or not
16:11:44 <planetmaker> there sure is, yes
16:11:59 <planetmaker> But this single patch, I think, would be useful still
16:12:23 <planetmaker> with the change to not pop-up selection, if there's no choice. And with the setting to revert to current behaviour
16:12:41 <planetmaker> distant join currently is quite well hidden
16:12:57 <frosch123> is that bad?
16:13:08 <frosch123> what makes distant join more important than share orders?
16:13:19 <frosch123> or autocomplete signals?
16:13:38 <planetmaker> nothing. But two badly accessible things is no reason to not make one better accessible, no?
16:14:55 <planetmaker> I fully agree, shared orders is not well accessible either. But it at least is
16:16:07 <frosch123> the text in the gui does not match your description of the patch btw
16:16:17 <frosch123> it says "join with adjacent stations"
16:16:33 <frosch123> shouldn't it say "join with distant stations" ?
16:17:14 <frosch123> (the difference being what happens when you build a new station)
16:18:02 <frosch123> anyway, as long as it does not make fs#4185 worse, i do not care
16:18:06 <planetmaker> I think that naming is not the best
16:19:11 <planetmaker> lol. It kinda makes it worse
16:19:40 <planetmaker> If you have A-B stations in a row, you cannot build on - without using ctrl
16:22:06 <frosch123> my vision of fs#4185 is, that it does not consider opponent stations, and just joins with your own
16:22:22 <frosch123> and that it popups the join window, if there are multiple choices
16:22:26 <planetmaker> I was just talking of my own stations.
16:22:30 <planetmaker> yeah
16:22:44 <planetmaker> I agree that's the case what FS4185 should resolve to
16:22:53 <planetmaker> I'll mention that task
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21:05:50 <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3199/ <- no idea whether that explains anything :p
21:06:47 <LordAro> "hysterical raisins" :D
21:07:07 <frosch123> that's what i learned in ottd context :)
21:07:29 <LordAro> but, the rest of it seems reasonable to me
21:12:27 <planetmaker> omg :D
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21:17:58 <Alberth> at least you made the difference more explicit now :)
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