IRC logs for #opendune on OFTC at 2010-01-15
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08:58:20 <tb2> I was looking for some old code of mine which did NZB downloads .. turned out I made this very nice and clean framework for it :o :o
09:01:42 <Xaroth> ugh, mum's birthday tonight
09:02:13 <Xaroth> means having to sit in the same room with that side of the family for an extended period of time
09:02:55 <tb2> I should have an exam now, which turned out to be moved ...
09:03:25 <tb2> nope .. to last monday ...
09:03:57 <Xaroth> wait, isn't that a bit dodgy to do without at least a long time head notice?
09:04:15 <tb2> in the class he was debating the issue
09:04:19 <tb2> there were a bit of problems
09:04:28 <tb2> in the end, he would mail us and put it on the web
09:04:42 <Xaroth> then it's his fault, tbqfh
09:04:51 <tb2> partly ... he just didn't email me :(
09:20:34 <Xaroth> almost weeeeeeekend :o
09:43:19 <Xaroth> hm, apparently the cyanogen updater doesn't recognise there's updates o_O
09:43:21 <tb2> so .. what was I about to do .. ah, yes, I was going to write a simple and efficient nzb downloader :)
09:44:13 <Xaroth> i'm running a customized os on my phone
09:44:32 <Xaroth> seeing it's still android :P
09:45:01 <Xaroth> not that many changes tho
09:52:25 <Xaroth> oo 63m skillpoints soon :o
09:54:23 <tb2> I am hitting the 700k .....
09:55:15 <Xaroth> you have turbo training tho :
09:55:26 <tb2> yes .... so ... how many years did it take you to get to 63m? :p
09:56:05 <Xaroth> er, rule of thumb, ish, 1m SP per month
09:56:13 <Xaroth> give or take, depending on what you train
09:56:32 <tb2> as I said yesterday, I really need to find something I want to train for ...
09:57:29 <Xaroth> find something you want to do :)
09:57:53 <tb2> I don't really like all the killing ... I like my ship with 20,000 m^3 of cargo .. but that gets boring too after a while
09:58:12 <Xaroth> Mining is steady income at the cost of boring mining, Production is profitable, but getting to the profit bit is a bitch
09:58:28 <Xaroth> killing is higher risk, less boring, and also good income
09:58:48 <Xaroth> my char was created 2006.01.29 18:55
09:59:16 <Xaroth> 1.3m SP a month on average
09:59:23 <tb2> so I guess I have to find something in between .. doing cargo-runs from time to time, but also doing killing from time to time
10:00:09 <Xaroth> there are agents that give you hauling missions
10:00:43 <tb2> you do know that when you do it correct, you can get over a few M ISK by transporting the right cargo, right? :p
10:01:52 <Xaroth> but that takes time, and effort
10:02:04 <Xaroth> so I often went for the few hundred K isk per trip from mindless agent missions
10:02:17 <Xaroth> every now and then he'd try to piss me off with a kill mission
10:02:23 <tb2> problem is that they are mostly one-way missions
10:02:35 <Xaroth> which meant I just hopped in my raven, and got some more money
10:03:06 <Xaroth> true, but it's got the added security that you don't fly around with millions worth of cargo :P
10:03:13 <Xaroth> I don't like getting suicide gangs on my ass :P
10:03:30 <tb2> there are always risks :)
10:07:31 <tb2> yesterday I had this mission .. CONRAD was all around, and I had to kill 10+ ships .. so I made them target me, got them to CONRAD .. and they did absolutely NOTHING!
10:16:13 <Xaroth> npcs usually don't get wtfpwned by CONCORD, no :P
10:16:32 <Xaroth> CONCORD is a police agency to keep track on capsuleers
10:16:50 <tb2> yes, but the mission was not like that
10:17:02 <tb2> it was like: "CONCORD will make sure they don't escape the given region"
10:37:34 <tb2> I should hav eknown sooner you can salvage wrecks :p
10:38:25 <Xaroth> then you skipped that tutorial :P
10:39:12 <tb2> I didn;t know you could do it with all wrecks
10:39:15 <tb2> it was not talking about that
10:41:05 <tb2> why am I not in that list? :(
10:41:40 <tb2> he owns a nice amount of blueprints :p
10:43:35 <Xaroth> and if you hit home you can upload your api key etc and you'll get on that list
10:43:44 <Xaroth> Chribba is one of the well known people in eve
10:45:30 <tb2> I have also a few blueprints
10:45:39 <tb2> but the raw ore is more expensive than the production
10:47:25 <Xaroth> that often is the case for T1, yes
10:48:32 <tb2> whoho, a total of 50k by killing pirates in 0.6 space ...
10:49:28 <tb2> (was 6 pirates, and took about 10 minutes in total .. still .. mining makes more profit)
10:49:39 <Xaroth> pirating in 0.0 space is more profitable, trust me :P
10:49:54 <tb2> but a tad insecure for me atm :p
10:50:06 <tb2> tonight you can take me with you if you like :p
10:51:03 <Xaroth> tonight I won't be online, remember :p
10:51:15 <Xaroth> but I'll wait until you can at least fly battlecruisers or somethign
10:51:25 <Xaroth> else you're most likely going to be cannon fodder :P
10:52:16 <Xaroth> drake should at least survive a while out there
10:52:27 <Xaroth> mind that i'll just let you borrow one of our drakes
10:52:37 <Xaroth> as flying up a drake to where we are now, in the war we are now in
10:52:56 <tb2> hahahaha :) So I need something speedy to get to you .. good to know ;)
10:53:14 <tb2> I also need to train the skills, and for all the other shit .. still need to figure out what I want in such ship :p
10:53:15 <Xaroth> yeh, frigate or shuttle will do
10:53:47 <tb2> (I still hav eno clue what frigate and shuttles are, but I will figure out :p)
10:54:06 <Xaroth> frigate and shuttle are ship classes
10:54:10 <Xaroth> a rifter, is a frigate
10:54:13 <tb2> but I don't know which ones are what :p
10:54:17 <Xaroth> 21:59 <Xaroth> Medium missiles (Heavy launchers) in top slots
10:54:17 <Xaroth> 22:00 <Xaroth> Medium slots volledig shield orientated, 3x Large shield extender, 2x magnetic scattering field (passive hardner) en 1x Heat dissipation field (active hardner)
10:54:19 <tb2> and how to make them faster :p
10:54:20 <Xaroth> 22:00 <Xaroth> Low slots volledig shield power relay
10:54:24 <Xaroth> that's a basic Drake fitting
10:54:35 <Xaroth> medium and low slots should at least be T2
10:54:46 <tb2> hahahaha :) More expensive .... ;)
10:54:49 <Xaroth> missile launchers can suffice with less than T2
10:55:22 <tb2> a lot to train for and train to ...
10:56:07 <tb2> but for now .. business meeting and visiting a friend
11:30:08 <tb2> why are people never in time for business meetings? :(
12:02:31 <tb2> oh well, gives me time to read the PAR2 specs
12:02:36 <tb2> on-the-fly checking is relative easy
14:51:32 <Xaroth> getting the same access violation again as yesterday
14:51:40 <Xaroth> even though i fixed it.. it hink
15:06:21 <Xaroth> ah, that seems to fix it
15:06:23 <Xaroth> UnmanagedFunctionPointer(CallingConvention.Cdecl)
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