IRC logs for #opendune on OFTC at 2009-11-12
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00:04:05 <Xaroth> btw, telling fib that he should post all his ideas on our forums so we can archive them
00:04:20 <Xaroth> some aren't half that bad, and worth keeping track of
00:06:12 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: good luck with ubuntu :P
09:15:41 <Xaroth> lol @ Minniatian.. saying palaces repair for free because their HP is too high
09:16:01 <Xaroth> ... did I miss something or did TrueBrain already cover that bit to great detail :P
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14:01:50 * boekabart has to get used to a shell irc client
14:02:24 <Xaroth> irssi can also act as a proxy
14:02:31 <Xaroth> so you can use your own client at home to connect to it
14:03:13 <boekabart> ah, and the online irssi will stay online and read me back what i've missed on join-from-home?
14:03:33 <Xaroth> er, not by default, but i'm sure you can adapt the plugin
14:03:50 <Xaroth> I read back by reading the logs anyways
14:04:37 * boekabart is wondering whether it's trivial to keep a ssh session open even after disconnection, and rejoin it later...
14:04:37 <Xaroth> I run irssi in screen on my server at home, at my game pc i use a gui client that connects to irssi's proxy ports (1 port per server)
14:06:45 <boekabart> bleh centos doesn't have screen by default
14:07:47 <Xaroth> alias irc='screen -U -S irc -d -RR irssi'
14:07:54 <TrueBrain> at least CentOS is a real OS!
14:08:44 <boekabart> and after you install RPMForge, yum is very useful
14:09:00 * boekabart wonders whether he should update ALL from RPMforge
14:15:03 <boekabart> well yes that's my conclusion too
14:15:14 <boekabart> someone told me to use yum upgrade?? to go to 5.4
14:15:25 <boekabart> personally i'll wait for centos 7 :)
14:15:34 <TrueBrain> so in 5 years you will upgrade
14:15:41 <TrueBrain> CentOS still uses 2.6.18 as kernel
14:16:12 <TrueBrain> and has known problems
14:16:28 <boekabart> if they were SO bad wouldn't they move forward?
14:19:44 <Xaroth> or just install debian :P
14:20:15 <boekabart> That's not possible
14:23:08 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: Fibble is posting on our forums :)
14:26:04 <TrueBrain> boekabart: dunno .. I hope they patched the worst things .. but 2.6.32 is available (if not newer), so I wonder why they still carry 2.6.18 ...
14:26:12 <TrueBrain> even Debian is not that old :p
14:29:19 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: btw, MrFlibble , it has an l extra
14:39:54 <Xaroth> you know who I mean :)
14:40:24 <TrueBrain> in that case I am going to call you Xerud from now on .. you know who I mean :)
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15:23:45 <boekabart> ok, this works nice
16:55:29 <TrueBrain> YEAH! My webcam finally works!!!
17:03:22 <TrueBrain> yes, that is very modern for me :)
17:22:08 <TrueBrain> wouldnt know how to do that anyway :p
17:37:04 <TrueBrain> and I don't trust webcams
17:37:11 <TrueBrain> I am always afraid they tape me while I am acting strange (as always)
17:38:29 <glx> just unplug it when you are acting strange :)
17:38:36 <TrueBrain> it is inside my laptop :p
17:42:45 <Xaroth> ceilign cat is watching you fap!
18:00:04 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: did you see the patch i linked yesterday night?
18:05:13 <TrueBrain> I only looked at the inside of my eyes
18:13:04 <SmatZ> [18:37:11] <TrueBrain> I am always afraid they tape me while I am acting strange (as always) <== same here
18:13:16 <SmatZ> that's why I have things blocking my camera view
18:27:40 <TrueBrain> my subwoofer is .. euh .. doing its job a bit too well in his new location
18:27:45 <TrueBrain> 4 doors next to me you can feel it :s
18:27:49 <TrueBrain> that are 3 concrete walls ...
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19:27:15 <TrueBrain> hmmm .... somehow I doubt this 'update' was a good thing ..
19:27:22 <TrueBrain> everything looks more ugly ... and is less visible ...
19:27:44 <TrueBrain> Konversation 1.2 ... not any better than the version I had before
19:30:05 <TrueBrain> why did I update to squeeze :(
19:31:15 <TrueBrain> etch .. lenny .. squeeze ..
19:31:25 <SmatZ> oh, there is next debian out?
19:31:36 <TrueBrain> it has been there for a while ;)
19:31:42 <TrueBrain> but it is 'testing'
19:58:20 <TrueBrain> now fighting Gentoo emerge hell ...
19:58:32 <TrueBrain> some package is pulling in some out-dated packages ... but it doesn't show that in any sane way
19:58:42 <TrueBrain> 3.5 is deprecated, so I have to I guess
19:58:55 <TrueBrain> but the problem is a bit deeper .. there are 25 blocks, of which it only shows 1 :p
19:59:18 <SmatZ> I simply removed KDE and then reinstalled it to 4.3 without pain :)
19:59:36 <TrueBrain> I am having problems with packages like icedtea6, pulseaudio, xscreensaver ..
19:59:42 <TrueBrain> not sure what the relation is to anything :p
19:59:58 <SmatZ> also, some kde-sunrise overlay
20:00:12 <TrueBrain> now I am just randomly removing packages, hoping at some point it picks up again
20:00:45 *** Xaroth sets mode: +o TinoDidriksen
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20:00:51 *** Xaroth sets mode: +o TrueBrain
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20:01:16 <Xaroth> don't make me use the p word
20:01:47 <Xaroth> anyways, lemme get that patch link again
20:01:52 <Xaroth> maybe finally get something comitted
20:02:07 <Xaroth> yes, but it's only part of it
20:02:17 <TrueBrain> Size of downloads: 1,224,728 kB <- auch
20:02:52 <TrueBrain> then your patch is fine by me
20:03:10 <TrueBrain> didn't look at it in great detail, but the general outlines looked good enough
20:04:21 <Xaroth> basically, another attempt at tile.c :P
20:06:09 <TrueBrain> FINALLY! I had to unmask a package, and now it accepts the 195 upgrades, 20 new and 9 reinstalls ...
20:08:04 <TrueBrain> "Why want more than you got .. it only results in disaster .. just look at kmess :p"
21:44:44 <boekabart> how to scroll right and left in ircii...
21:48:25 <glx> (if you run it with screen of course)
21:56:16 <Xaroth> doesn't it have wordwrap?
23:20:46 <TrueBrain> 74 out of 214 .... this is going to take a while :p
23:22:04 <TrueBrain> and I need to reflash my xbox, but I don't have a SATA connection :p
23:22:43 <Xaroth> meh, mobile-harddisk stil hasn't mailed me that the docking bay is in stock again, grr
23:22:51 <Xaroth> I had hoped I'd have had em before weekend
23:23:06 <TrueBrain> why didn't you commit btw?
23:23:12 <TrueBrain> you are talking about it, but you are not doing anything about it :p
23:23:17 <Xaroth> half patch, working on rest
23:23:24 <Xaroth> changing function over, running game, testing
23:23:33 <Xaroth> don't want to commit half stuff
23:28:26 <TrueBrain> Assissins Creed 2 is out :)
23:28:41 <Xaroth> I don't do consoles anymore
23:28:48 <Xaroth> had my sega, had my fun, pc > all :)
23:28:55 <TrueBrain> can't play it ... need SATA ...
23:29:09 <TrueBrain> I like my xbox :) I don't have to watch what video card I buy when buying a new PC
23:29:20 <TrueBrain> means I can buy one I want and I like, over one I need in order to play game X
23:29:43 <Xaroth> true, but fps + console = wack :P
23:30:00 <Xaroth> or anything you need a mouse for, for that matter
23:30:12 <TrueBrain> wack as in bad? As that for sure isnt true :)
23:30:36 <Xaroth> meh, i tried playing halo and call of duty on an xbox
23:30:44 <Xaroth> i ended up turning the entire console thinking it'd turn faster
23:30:51 <Xaroth> er, s/console/controller/
23:31:08 <Xaroth> which, obviously, does not work
23:31:12 <Xaroth> and makes me look like a retard :P
23:31:21 <TrueBrain> I have a better score in CoD on the Xbox than on the PC :)
23:31:32 <Xaroth> whereas on my pc if it's not moving fast enough I up my sensitivity :)
23:31:49 <TrueBrain> you do know you can do that on consoles too, right?
23:32:35 <Xaroth> yes, but not on-the-fly
23:32:40 <Xaroth> I have 2 buttons on my mouse for that :)
23:32:53 <TrueBrain> hahahahaha .. you really suck in FPS games :)
23:33:21 <Xaroth> I actually managed to be in the top 250 world ranking for SoF2, with a trackball....
23:33:24 <TrueBrain> well, what you tel me here, you give a whole other idea ;)
23:33:37 <TrueBrain> we were in the clan top 10 of The Netherlands once ... your point?
23:33:50 <Xaroth> ever tried an FPS on a trackball?
23:34:11 <TrueBrain> I never have tried a trackball, I never will .. but what are you trying to say? It was an handicap, so extra impressive?
23:34:19 <TrueBrain> you could also have bought a real mouse instead ;)
23:34:20 <Xaroth> no, it was the opposite
23:34:41 <Xaroth> at least, I found it more easy to aim than with a normal mouse
23:35:00 <TrueBrain> I played with all kinds of mouses, on all kinds of systems, on all kinds of fpses ... in the end, it all doesn't matter
23:35:07 <TrueBrain> people who say: I CANT WIN BECAUSE I HAVE JUST 20 FPS
23:35:24 <TrueBrain> I played sniper at 10 fps, and still killed more people :p
23:35:25 <Xaroth> the point is valid, only not for them :P
23:35:46 <Xaroth> same as the people who cry about lag
23:36:14 <Xaroth> it's a valid point, but people are so damn easy to call it 'omg lag'
23:36:25 <SmatZ> but... that applies only to UT zeroping :)
23:36:26 <TrueBrain> but okay .. above all I enjoyed playing in the Lemmings clan .. well .. for the obvious reason given that name ;)
23:36:40 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: only if you play instagib ;)
23:36:58 <Xaroth> but I liked normal weapons more
23:37:02 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: very true :) is there anything better than zeroping instagib? :)
23:37:42 <TrueBrain> I played CoD with my old clan mate a while back .. he the mouse, I the keyboard .. we got #1 at too many servers :) It is so cool if you know eachother and can do such shit :)
23:38:05 <TrueBrain> you still have ICQ? Impressive :)
23:39:05 <TrueBrain> not bad SmatZ, not bad at all ;)
23:39:11 <Xaroth> i search for [D]Shaman .. i get a dutchie result that's not me
23:39:19 <Xaroth> i search for [D]Xaroth, i get a dutchie result that's not me
23:40:24 <TrueBrain> clanbase is still a sucky website :)
23:40:46 <Xaroth> Last modified on 31 Aug 2004 14:37
23:40:55 <Xaroth> possibly the last time I logged in on there as well..
23:40:55 <SmatZ> at least it's no longer possible to steal user accounts via google
23:42:24 <TrueBrain> I can't find our clan back on clanbase :'(
23:45:22 <TrueBrain> not a trace ... weird ...
23:45:31 <TrueBrain> and I no longer have my mail archive from back then :p
23:46:33 <TrueBrain> none of my aliases ...
23:46:43 <TrueBrain> none of my friends ..
23:47:01 <TrueBrain> we played 100+ clanwars via clanbase ... :s
23:50:18 <TrueBrain> whoho, found something
23:50:20 <glx> [00:36:24] <@Xaroth> it's a valid point, but people are so damn easy to call it 'omg lag' <-- reminds me people yelling "hack" in combat arms when you head shot them
23:50:35 <TrueBrain> Avg. kills/minute 0.80 <- lol
23:50:42 <TrueBrain> Cheater No <- WHOHO!
23:50:55 <glx> though there are real hackers in combat arms
23:51:19 <glx> some map are poorly designed
23:52:19 <glx> they are easy to spot, a guy firing "randomly" while staying at respawn point
23:52:43 <TrueBrain> some maps you could shoot the other team from your spawn point when the map started
23:52:47 <TrueBrain> by aiming exactly right :p
23:53:57 <TrueBrain> all our stats are gone :'( We renamed our clan at some point, but there is absolutely NO history of the older name :(
23:55:10 <TrueBrain> still impressive that they still list users from 2001 :)
23:55:25 <TrueBrain> back then I was 18! :o
23:56:16 <TrueBrain> clanbase was always fun .. people could review the match .. they were never so positve about us ... might be the fact that we killed ourself over and over :p Ghehe :)
23:56:43 <TrueBrain> (for a long time that didn't count as kill for the enemy, only as death for you .. so .. it was good for the score :p)
23:57:19 <TrueBrain> either way, Xaroth, just because you can't win on an xbox, doesn't mean it has to do with the xbox ;)
23:57:49 <TrueBrain> I like my 60fps at 720p :) No PC has given me that so far .. and when they did, the next game no longer did :p
23:58:23 <Xaroth> and like you notice any fps above the 30 :P
23:58:26 <TrueBrain> (and one of my roommates also moves the controller around to go around a corner, it always makes my piss my pants)
23:58:45 <TrueBrain> you do notice the difference between 30 and 60, but that is something different :)
23:59:19 <TrueBrain> (if you update an object every 30fps, it doesn't move fluent .. you need the double amount to do that :))
23:59:42 <TrueBrain> update = calculate realistic physics :)
23:59:52 <TrueBrain> like gravity and shit
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