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00:58:38 <kamnet> Meh
00:58:42 <kamnet> meh
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01:19:33 <Eddi|zuHause> "Ich bin soo satt, ich mag kein Blatt"?
01:21:35 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tischchen_deck_dich,_Goldesel_und_Knüppel_aus_dem_Sack
01:24:24 <Eddi|zuHause> (is this fairy tale not so well known in the english speaking world? the wikipedia article seems like a stub)
01:25:39 <Eddi|zuHause> (stupid american kids probably don't know anything if it wasn't in a disney movie)
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02:42:01 <supermop> yo
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03:04:51 <supermop> yo pikka
03:05:55 <Pikka> yoyo supermop
03:06:13 <supermop> hows brisbane today?
03:06:26 <Pikka> fine. :) a little cool.
03:06:56 <supermop> do they have dmus there? it seems like the wires go all the way out to the far off ends of the line
03:07:13 <supermop> even on the single tracked bits
03:08:22 <Pikka> Brisbane is all electrified. I think there's still an old diesel railcar that does a tourist train out to woop woop.
03:08:59 <Pikka> and this one goes from Brisbane to Cairns, but isn't really a DMU. ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Cairns-tilt-train.JPG
03:09:33 <supermop> never seen that before
03:09:46 <supermop> also, how long of a journey is that?
03:10:05 <Pikka> to Cairns? 1600km iirc.
03:10:22 <Pikka> about a thousand miles.
03:10:31 <Pikka> half as far again as Brisbane to Sydney :)
03:10:33 <supermop> 10 hours at least i imagine?
03:11:04 <supermop> I saw the hst thing here a few weeks ago in the station
03:11:07 <Pikka> the tilt train does 160km/h, so yeah :)
03:11:12 <Pikka> the XPT? yeah :)
03:11:39 <supermop> would have been fun to take to sydney but really cannot justify that vis a vis cheap airfare
03:11:44 <Pikka> done that one from Brisbane to Sydney and back once, never again :P
03:12:01 <Pikka> it's so slow, and not very comfortable for how long it takes.
03:12:17 <supermop> it doesnt even do 125mph if i recall,
03:12:48 <supermop> must be better than ha noi to sai gon at least
03:13:11 <Pikka> it has a maximum speed of 160km/h / 100mph
03:13:22 <Pikka> between brisbane and sydney I think it averages about 50km/h :P
03:14:50 <supermop> soo slower than a tram then
03:15:00 <Pikka> well that might be an exaggeration
03:15:05 <supermop> just extend the melb tram network up to brisbane
03:15:07 <Pikka> but it takes about 14 hours
03:15:18 <Pikka> vs 1.5 hours (and cheaper) to fly... yeah.
03:15:38 <supermop> is the train at least luxurious?
03:15:43 <Pikka> not at all
03:16:02 <supermop> im sure could refit some sleeper compartments into some old Z1 class trams
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03:24:17 <supermop> how's school going?
03:24:32 <Pikka> got my assignment in last night
03:24:50 <Pikka> 2000 words due monday, I'll start after the Eurovision final :)
03:26:35 <Flygon> Brahs
03:26:48 <Flygon> Everyone knows the ultimate in Australian HST technology is the VLocity
03:27:09 <Flygon> Which's also a bit depressing because they only go up to 177km/h in normal service (and even that's overspeed...)
03:33:45 <supermop> fiance is in the thick of finishing up masters assignments here - pretty hectic
03:37:45 <Pikka> good stuff
03:45:00 <supermop> then after that need to arange to ship stuff back and hopefully have a couple days to enjoy the cold and rain before heading home
03:53:41 <supermop> i wonder if bikeshare stations could work in game
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04:44:52 <supermop> made guacamole
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04:57:49 <kamnet> mmmmmmmmmmm quacamole. Now i'm hungry supermop
05:01:27 <supermop> tomato i had was no good though
05:49:34 <kamnet> Meh
06:47:18 <Terkhen> hello
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07:52:22 <Pikka> goooooooood morning saskatchewan
08:00:18 <supermop> who lives there
08:00:34 <Pikka> sasquatches
08:02:22 <supermop> will pineapple sheds be procedurally generated?
08:02:38 <Pikka> sheds?
08:05:31 <supermop> houses
08:05:35 <supermop> shacks
08:05:38 <supermop> huts
08:05:45 <supermop> hovels
08:05:52 <Pikka> well
08:05:57 <supermop> brutalist masterpieces
08:06:44 <Pikka> they'll be pieces which get put together in the code...so basic underlying structures with details and clutter added after.
08:10:24 <supermop> neat
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08:15:35 <andythenorth> o/
08:15:48 <Pikka> o/
08:17:38 <supermop> tea time
08:19:52 * andythenorth needs to replace default sawmill sprites
08:19:59 <andythenorth> with something similar-but-different
08:20:04 <andythenorth> sawmill pictures anyone?
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08:32:08 <Pikka> soremill?
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08:37:39 <supermop> likw a modern sawmill? or 1910s sort of thing?
08:38:30 <supermop> most pictures i see, new or old, are mostly open sided sheds
08:41:24 <andythenorth> suremill
08:41:47 <andythenorth> I should just repaint the ogfx one?
08:42:01 <supermop> mostly seems to be a shed roof over a line of rollers and a big saw
08:42:02 * andythenorth was thinking to maybe draw the saw or something
08:42:08 <andythenorth> or animate some logs
08:42:12 * andythenorth would regret that
08:42:19 <supermop> yeah i think saw and log roller looks neat
08:42:39 <supermop> default one has too many buildings?
08:42:50 <andythenorth> bit busy
08:42:55 <andythenorth> I like the mixed-up layout
08:42:58 <supermop> too bulky at least
08:43:04 <andythenorth> don’t get any sense of chopping wood
08:43:36 <andythenorth> https://az95169.vo.msecnd.net/images/faller/large/L222181.jpg
08:43:39 <andythenorth> https://az95169.vo.msecnd.net/images/faller/alt/232248/232248_fg_01.jpg
08:43:42 <andythenorth> http://www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk/train-automation/130229_fg_01.jpg
08:44:04 <andythenorth> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FvvfUlf6L.jpg
08:44:57 <supermop> somethiwhatever this log machine is: http://www.linck.com/Bilddatenbank/Presseberichte/LESBATS_Hz46-2012/format1/2.jpgng like a
08:45:37 <supermop> http://www.perditaphillips.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/k14_700.jpg
08:47:04 <supermop> http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base_images/zp/portable_sawmill_height_issues_3.jpg
08:50:28 <supermop> any good space population town sets?
08:50:51 <supermop> .se houses gives too many passengers for the type of game i feel like playing
09:05:52 <andythenorth> water-based sawmill? o_O
09:06:36 <andythenorth> http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000CF_as9GgWSc/s/750/750/McLean-Mill-Sawmill-VIS-1460.jpg
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09:09:43 <andythenorth> bank holiday weekend trips
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10:33:21 <Wolf01> moin
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12:16:01 <Pikka> boin
12:16:08 <andythenorth> boink
12:16:41 <Pikka> probably
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12:22:23 <andythenorth> I’m not sure
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14:32:39 <andythenorth> sawmill: http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2011/02/25/hull-oakes-sawmill/
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14:51:58 <andythenorth> it is FIRS requests season
14:52:03 <andythenorth> what larks
14:55:41 <Alberth> nice web page!
14:56:08 <andythenorth> interesting
14:56:14 * andythenorth has been learning about sawmills
14:56:22 <andythenorth> easier to draw things when you know what they do
14:56:43 <Alberth> it had more details than I expected
14:57:01 <Alberth> and steam powered :)
14:57:05 <andythenorth> yes
14:57:14 <andythenorth> I assumed one big saw, chop the log, done
14:57:49 <Alberth> sort of, at a high enough abstraction level :)
14:58:32 <Alberth> but openttd sawmills are missing a big pond for the logs
14:59:35 <andythenorth> well
14:59:40 <andythenorth> I considered it
14:59:53 <andythenorth> needs base set water though
15:00:04 <andythenorth> thought about locating them on coasts
15:00:06 <andythenorth> but that’s silly
15:03:16 <Alberth> indeed
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15:37:06 <supermop> need log flume
15:44:44 <andythenorth> need quantised transport
15:44:47 <andythenorth> as a new type
15:45:01 <Alberth> quantum transport :)
15:45:14 <andythenorth> log flume could be a hack on trains, but needs a return path
15:45:38 <Alberth> 90% chance it was transported
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16:33:04 <supermop> flume basically a pipe or conveyor
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17:25:06 <andythenorth> hmm
17:25:08 <andythenorth> Recyclables
17:25:09 <andythenorth> cargo_classes = 'bitmask(CC_PIECE_GOODS, CC_COVERED)',
17:25:12 <andythenorth> seems dubious
17:25:45 <andythenorth> cargo was created by copying from file for Wool; looks like a failure to set the classes at the time
17:28:55 <Alberth> there are no doubt piece goods that are recyclable :)
17:30:24 <Alberth> nasa has a few rocket parts you may want to use :)
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17:49:36 * andythenorth wonders what classes is should be
17:49:45 <andythenorth> covered looks superfluous :P
17:52:19 <andythenorth> Bulk, Piece Goods, Non-Pourable?
17:52:36 <andythenorth> maybe just Bulk, Piece Goods
17:59:22 <andythenorth> done
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18:22:52 <Alberth> simpler is better :)
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18:55:12 <andythenorth> saturday cat
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21:00:37 <V453000> frosch123: it looks like no desyncs yet since yesterday :) thanks so much
21:03:51 <frosch123> yay :)
21:03:58 <frosch123> so i can break the next thing
21:04:23 <Alberth> like nml? :)
21:07:25 <Alberth> frosch123: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1149583#p1149583 https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p930m0ow9
21:07:38 <Alberth> I don't have a test case
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21:30:00 <frosch123> oh :p
21:30:35 <frosch123> so, getbits never worked
21:33:15 <andythenorth> nobody noticed
21:33:51 <frosch123> Alberth: i implemented it with copy&paste, i can fix it with copy&paste :p
21:34:16 <Alberth> go ahead
21:35:15 <andythenorth> :)
21:36:24 <frosch123> dynamically typed languages :)
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21:40:11 <Alberth> lol action 5 vs action A :)
21:42:21 <frosch123> where?
21:42:29 <frosch123> can i vote for one? :p
21:44:14 <Alberth> just reading actions, just read action 5, I thought I understood it. Reading action A, he I already had this???? :)
21:44:18 <Alberth> but not :)
21:46:14 <frosch123> someone followed pc specs in the last 5 years?
21:46:35 <frosch123> i noticed that my computer is 5 years old, but the stats of current pcs look pretty much the same :p
21:48:16 <Taede> memory went up
21:49:01 <andythenorth> :P
21:49:01 <andythenorth> and yet the benchmarks are different
21:49:02 <andythenorth> but there’s no way I’m buying one until the CPU number is higher
21:49:04 <andythenorth> :P
21:49:25 <frosch123> hmm, actually clock rate is back at 3.2ghz again
21:49:29 <frosch123> as in p4 times :p
21:49:55 <frosch123> my current one is at 2.67
21:50:13 <frosch123> but 8gib is pretty much standard now, but i already have that, and no need for even more
21:50:19 <frosch123> 8gib works fine for 3 vms
21:50:54 <frosch123> i guess i look in 5 years again
21:51:01 <Taede> you dont want 32k^2 maps?
21:51:06 <Taede> ;)
21:51:26 <frosch123> no, i am no teenager
21:52:21 <frosch123> ssd is a lot faster now
21:52:37 <andythenorth> frosch123: buy one with more cores
21:52:38 <frosch123> but i compile to ramdisk
21:52:41 <andythenorth> for compiling Iron Horse :P
21:53:10 <Alberth> I think it's hard to get one without multi core
21:53:14 <frosch123> andythenorth: i changed my alias for make to "nice make -j5"
21:53:25 <frosch123> with "nice" it never disrupts my music again
21:53:42 <Alberth> :)
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23:36:48 <Eddi|zuHause> somehow i find none of these songs interesting enough...
23:43:04 <frosch123> are you too old or too young?
23:43:51 <frosch123> i thought everyone votes for australia, just for the lolz
23:48:25 <__ln__> sad how few non-english songs there are
23:53:01 <glx> I count 5
23:53:47 <__ln__> france, romania, spain, italy, .... australia?
23:54:01 <glx> montenegro IIRC
23:54:22 <__ln__> ah, could be, didn't pay attention to that
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