IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2015-05-06
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06:47:52 <TartarusMkII> Hi again guys, having an odd problem. I changed some settings around, and one thing I changed I think was that I could not delete town roads for free. But now I can't delete any of my stations that I put on town roads at all.
06:47:56 <TartarusMkII> So I can't correct mistakes.
06:47:58 <TartarusMkII> What I meant to do?
06:48:59 <TartarusMkII> Oh, and hello again planetmaker
06:49:31 <ST2> TartarusMkII: select the station buildint tool and the buldozzer (remove tool). that should do :)
06:49:35 <Supercheese> Try to "remove" them rather than "delete"
06:49:46 <Supercheese> bulldoze vs dynamite
06:49:46 <TartarusMkII> That's what I meant by delete- er wait, let me see.
06:50:05 <Supercheese> also the R key by default? IIRC
06:50:14 <TartarusMkII> Ah that does work- what is the difference between the two tools?
06:50:16 <Supercheese> mine toggles removal but that may have been custom keypress
06:50:24 <Supercheese> dynamite kills everything on the tile
06:50:27 <Supercheese> makes it bare land
06:50:40 <Supercheese> remove can selectively remove certain portions leaving some stuff behind
06:50:50 <Supercheese> i.e. remove bus drivethrough but leave the road
06:50:55 <Supercheese> or remove signal but leave the track
06:54:46 <TartarusMkII> How's everyone tonight?
06:54:57 <TartarusMkII> I am playing some OpenTTD While I play World of Tanks
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07:38:39 <TartarusMkII> I don't understand. My settings are all set to normal isntead of low
07:38:58 <TartarusMkII> and I have one train ferring milk that has running costs of about $19k yearly, and only a profit of less than $5k
07:39:00 <TartarusMkII> what in the world??
07:42:51 <TartarusMkII> I'm not sure what the issue is..
07:43:52 <TartarusMkII> I am realizing all of the trains have insane running costs in this GRF I'm using...
07:44:12 <TartarusMkII> the first tank that is not an obvious budget tank is $14k a year...
07:44:23 <TartarusMkII> How am I supposed to recoup that?
07:49:21 <TartarusMkII> I am using the UK Renewal Trainset
07:50:54 <TartarusMkII> I realize though the vanilla trains have even higher costs???
07:50:59 <TartarusMkII> what??? how do I play this game? LOL
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08:10:29 <Supercheese> at times it seems the best way to play the game is to develop new content for it (newgrfs etc.)
08:10:42 <Supercheese> or at least that's often how I derive maximum enjoyment
08:11:02 <TartarusMkII> I can understand.
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08:59:36 <Supercheese> the andyman cometh
09:03:00 <andythenorth> lo Pikkaphone bob
09:03:23 <andythenorth> my man in Brisbane is not answering texts, can you go round his house and tell him I need to speak to him?
09:04:19 <andythenorth> I think he’s near Moorooka
09:04:30 <andythenorth> but eh, not sure
09:04:33 <andythenorth> we’re all virtual :P
09:04:49 <Celestar> isn't there any cloud storage provider which just provides standard protocols?
09:05:15 <Pikkaphone> moorooka is a bit of a hike...
09:36:41 <TartarusMkII> I don't know where moorooka is, but mooville is right around the bend from me.
09:36:47 <TartarusMkII> Can I be of help?
09:44:24 <andythenorth> nah he’s on the phone now ;)
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11:03:24 <FLHerne> TartarusMkII: Quiet this morning
11:06:14 <TartarusMkII> GOnna sleep soon myself. Been up farrr too lae.
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19:45:23 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27268 trunk/src/lang/hebrew.txt (2015-05-06 19:45:15 +0200 )
19:45:24 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:45:25 <DorpsGek> hebrew - 1 changes by oofnik
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22:47:14 <FLHerne> Gah, why does everything I write turn into meaningless spaghetti? :-/
22:47:35 <andythenorth> you is devloloper
22:48:29 <FLHerne> At the moment, I'm writing code as fast as possible so that I get it down before I forget what it means
22:48:52 <FLHerne> Which of course leaves it making even less sense
22:50:51 <FLHerne> Should try comments, or a plan
22:56:42 * andythenorth counts up projects
22:57:19 <andythenorth> I touch code on about 12 projects at the moment
22:58:06 <andythenorth> each one took anything from ~months to ~years to get sensible code + architecture
22:58:16 <andythenorth> sometimes the code is good but the architecture terrible
22:58:19 <andythenorth> othertimes the reverse
22:58:38 <andythenorth> rome, not built in a day, etc
22:59:03 <Wolf01> or the idea behind the project is good but both the code and the architecture are terrible
22:59:18 <andythenorth> or the code and the architecture are wonderful, but the product is awful
22:59:24 <andythenorth> I have seen most variations :P
22:59:30 <andythenorth> some have cost me a lot of money
22:59:40 <Wolf01> yeah, just browse the app stores
22:59:44 <andythenorth> but eh, what’s money? o_O
23:01:08 <andythenorth> in order, highest to lowest, I’d put: product + architecture equal, then code, then choice of language
23:01:42 <andythenorth> entry-level programmers tend to assume the reverse
23:02:41 <andythenorth> muppet entrepreneurs tend to conspire with them accidentally by assuming that as long as the (low-cost) coder says the language is cool, the business is assured success, and the cheap programmer keeps costs low
23:03:25 * andythenorth philosophy lesson over
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23:11:21 <FLHerne> So I mostly finished one pointless tangent
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