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00:00:19  <krinn> same for empty plane vs school...

00:00:28  <krinn> only military target should be taken

00:01:31  <Eddi|zuHause> now replace "plane" with "bomb" and "civilian building" with "police headquater". and now still make a distinction.

00:01:31  <krinn> it's sad, but crashing the empty plane to military hq and killing civilians nearby is just war casualty, not terrorism

00:01:39  <SpComb> militaries don't mind bombing civilians

00:03:59  <Eddi|zuHause> and if that is still too easy: look at recent news reports about a) a police station being attacked in egypt, and b) a police station being attacked in afghanistan

00:05:27  <krinn> it depend what "police" mean at first

00:05:38  <krinn> for us (i'm sure it's same for german)

00:05:58  <__ln__> afghanistan is not war though, there's only a mere crisis.

00:05:58  <krinn> if you put a policeman at an entry and tell him "no one pass", he will arrest anyone that try

00:06:17  <krinn> put a military, he will kill one that try pass, not really the same

00:06:35  <krinn> but on some country, it's hard to tell police isn't military

00:06:39  <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: actually, it was officially named a war in germany last year

00:07:13  <__ln__> i think here they still haven't admitted such

00:07:19  <krinn> well, to name it a war you should have someone to fight against right ?

00:08:01  <krinn> and if you admit war against terrorism, then why usa don't came bomb ira, some corsica, or guys at portugal...

00:08:13  <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: well, the number of dead soldiers skyrocketed that past year

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00:08:19  <bastien> hello

00:08:32  <krinn> because french are there for that Eddi|zuHause :)

00:08:39  <krinn> hi bastien

00:08:58  <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: i meant dead german soldiers... nobody cares about the rest :p

00:09:00  <bastien> how can I prevent a train from automatically loading at a station?

00:09:13  <bastien> it looks like this: A <-> B <-> C

00:09:23  <krinn> there's a no-stop order

00:09:32  <bastien> trains that do A <-> C automatically load at B

00:09:34  <Eddi|zuHause> bastien: use "go non-stop to C" order

00:09:44  <bastien> thakns

00:09:46  <bastien> thanks*

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00:10:21  <krinn> you know what is the worst Eddi|zuHause ?

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00:10:53  <krinn> you can't battle with an army a militia or terrorist, that's not their job

00:11:54  <krinn> the only way to battle terrorism is politics, and politics is why terrorism exist, chicken & egg problem

00:16:14  <krinn> the same dumb ass that invite a fucking dictator to eat and relax in our beautiful houses all paid with our money

00:16:36  <krinn> now he is telling him to leave his own country...

00:17:07  <krinn> and saying to everyone he is a dictator and this must stop

00:17:14  <krinn> what a pitty, what a shame for us :(

00:18:49  <krinn> http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1693121,00.html + http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4034105,00.html

00:22:20  <Eddi|zuHause> well, that's "diplomacy"

00:22:54  <krinn> no diplomacy is going in his country and try to make him change for his own people health

00:23:03  <krinn> or sending someone else speaking with him

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00:23:23  <Eddi|zuHause> the world doesn't work like this

00:23:24  <krinn> but not doing it YOURSELF, not in your OWN country, not with the red carpet and all

00:24:29  <__ln__> like a great diplomat once said, "you're either with us, or against us"

00:24:49  <rane> wasn't that "you're with us or you're a nazi"

00:25:47  <__ln__> rane: no, you're confusing nazis with someone else

00:26:26  <rane> word nazi lost its meaning anyway

00:27:26  <krinn> and i never think a neutral position is a no position

00:27:29  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: in your language maybe

00:27:45  <rane> in the media

00:27:47  <rane> in politics

00:28:22  <krinn> not in europe imo

00:28:23  <rane> just go to google images and type "obama nazi"

00:28:35  <rane> here every right-wing government is nazi

00:28:36  <__ln__> IRC is the only media that would abuse the word 'nazi' like you just did.

00:28:41  <rane> Orban is nazi i keep reading

00:28:59  <rane> which is weird cause nazis were socialists, but well

00:29:05  <rane> that word means nothing too;-)

00:29:32  <rane> i don't care either way, just chipping in to the last line of your conversation

00:29:37  <rane> haven't read the rest of it

00:30:41  <krinn> internet, not only irc, forums...

00:30:47  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: originally, the word "nazi" is derived from "nationalistic"

00:31:28  <rane> no, it is derived from nationalsozialismus

00:31:33  <rane> na - zi

00:32:07  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: well, i think you're missing a few steps there ;)

00:32:12  <rane> so socialism is a part of it just like nationalism is

00:32:15  <krinn> abbreviated from the pronunciation of "Nationalsozialist (wiki)

00:32:55  <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: yes, that is more likely

00:33:08  <rane> what if i just edited that entry

00:33:13  <rane> to make me look like i am right?

00:33:15  <rane> :-p

00:33:20  <rane> knowing you will go check me there

00:33:20  <krinn> :P

00:33:22  <Eddi|zuHause> the 't' in 'Natio...' is spoken like 'z'

00:33:22  <rane> no other source

00:33:36  <krinn> that's why i said (wiki)

00:33:37  <rane> it's from the German word

00:33:55  <krinn> a great source, but never leave somewhere it's also a weak source

00:34:22  <krinn> (... somewhere in your mind...)

00:34:53  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: but insinuating the "ZI" in "nazi" comes from "soZIalistisch" is just absurd

00:36:27  <rane> feel free to prove me wrong

00:36:45  <rane> in the meantime i finish this last hub:-)

00:36:46  <krinn> well, just telling a "black" is a nazi sounds absurd

00:38:03  <__ln__> "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

00:38:08  <Eddi|zuHause> in america, the term "nazi" really has lost its meaning, but in europe, and especially in germany, it has not

00:38:11  <__ln__> congrats rane

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00:38:20  <krinn> nazi didn't only grab jews, but tzigan, black, gays... and of course many forget, but even opponents or disagree german were killed

00:39:02  <rane> well, there was sozi and then there was nazi, sozi with added nationalism component

00:39:23  <rane> why are we talking nazi here anyway

00:39:31  <rane> i hate educating people via irc:-p

00:39:37  <krinn> because you speak about it :)

00:39:57  <rane> i blame Eddi and his taunting me

00:40:05  <rane> "absurd" he said

00:40:06  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: you brought it up

00:40:08  <rane> now he's googling :-)

00:40:38  <krinn> rane where you from?

00:41:06  <rane> is that an argument in the discussion?

00:41:14  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: i'm the uneducated german. please teach me about nazis

00:41:14  <__ln__> rane: nonsense, Eddi knows history better than google, so google asks him.

00:41:48  <krinn> rane, no just to know, might explain your pov

00:42:30  <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't touched google since i looked up whether it's "le terreur" or "la terreur", but google wasn't entirely sure either

00:42:34  <__ln__> the 'Ł' in rane's realname hints towards some country...

00:42:59  <krinn> Eddi|zuHause, "La" as terror is female (and that's logic no? :) )

00:43:02  <__ln__> if it even is real realname

00:43:16  <rane> no, i made it up to confuse people into thinking i'm from Poland

00:44:17  <__ln__> Oregon State System of Higher Education

00:46:24  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: poland? the name sounds more hungarian

00:47:48  <rane> i believe they have Laszlo not Lukasz

00:48:01  <rane> but you can't be certain with Hungarians

00:48:07  <rane> tehy are like Finns :-p

00:48:19  <krinn> Warsaw, Poland

00:48:22  <rane> noone can understand them

00:48:24  <rane> yay

00:48:35  <krinn> that's for the record

00:48:45  <rane> what were we talking about, again

00:48:52  <krinn> i knew i saw that name one time :)

00:49:31  <krinn> that people calling obama a nazi are stupids?

00:50:32  <Eddi|zuHause> i think the point was that people who have no problem with real nazis start to use the term for other things...

00:50:54  <krinn> can't be poland so

00:51:08  <rane> i think most people don't even know what the word means

00:51:35  <krinn> indeed, specially as far they are from europe

00:51:37  <__ln__> poland?  is that something like disneyland?

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00:52:11  <Eddi|zuHause> there's a north pole land and a south pole land?

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00:53:40  <__ln__> at least everybody knows that WW II was about US and Britain allying with Germany to fight the Soviets.

00:53:47  <krinn> i'm sure they could even say obama is kkk

00:54:22  <peter1138> *and* an evil moslem

00:54:37  <peter1138> (they're all terrorists)

00:55:24  <rane> "evil muslim" - are you suggesting there are other kinds? ;-)

00:56:05  <krinn> isn't that also stupid ?

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00:58:42  <krinn> this channel must have drow cia computer power a lot

00:58:59  <Eddi|zuHause> i believe kenya isn't even a muslim country

01:00:30  <Eddi|zuHause> 70% christian, 20% muslim, 10% other

01:00:45  <krinn> well, that must be french stats

01:02:09  <rane> ask an american to point at Kenya on the map

01:02:25  <rane> or France for that matter

01:02:33  <krinn> ask an american to point anywhere outside usa...

01:03:29  <krinn> all french know well african territory

01:04:19  <Eddi|zuHause> <krinn> this channel must have drow cia computer power a lot <-- what do you think CIA-11 is doing here?

01:04:53  <rane> or ask an European to point at Portland or whatever

01:04:53  <krinn> lol saving power

01:05:27  <__ln__> rane: *a European

01:06:05  <rane> depends how you pronounce it

01:06:18  <krinn> really rane, can't show you portland

01:06:26  <krinn> it's in oregon?

01:06:34  <krinn> i'm not sure, but i think

01:06:47  <__ln__> rane: ok how do you pronounce it then?

01:06:49  <Eddi|zuHause> i think there's more than one portland ;)

01:07:01  <krinn> still i could only point you texas, NY, california

01:07:11  <rane> __ln__, the way that warrants "an", figure it out

01:07:38  <rane> krinn, play more games with actual world maps:-)

01:07:41  <rane> krinn, eu3 among others

01:08:06  <__ln__> rane: there is no such way.

01:08:09  <krinn> eu3?

01:08:59  <rane> europa universalis

01:09:32  <rane> __ln__, you not being able to figure it out doesn't mean it doesn't exist

01:09:38  <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: hawaii, florida and alaska are also fairly easy to find on a map

01:09:55  <krinn> ah yes true Eddi|zuHause

01:10:03  <rane> Alaska is where you can see Russia from

01:10:22  <Eddi|zuHause> alaska actually belonged to russia

01:10:33  <__ln__> rane: it does.

01:10:40  <Eddi|zuHause> until they sold it. "snow? we have enough of that in sibiria."

01:10:46  <rane> Eddi|zuHause, when was it sold? :-p

01:11:04  <rane> Eddi|zuHause, and for how much?

01:11:07  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: something mid-19th-centrury-ish

01:11:20  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: something around 7 million $?

01:11:25  <rane> and you say you aren't educated

01:11:43  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: i was being ironic.

01:12:35  <glx> <krinn> all french know well african territory <-- well is a bit too much

01:13:18  <krinn> it's not like we don't have a news about that territory like nearly all days

01:13:34  <Eddi|zuHause> it's a fairly safe bet to say that the average french (or european) knows african countries better than the average american ;)

01:13:57  <glx> I didn't think libya was where it is

01:14:19  <Eddi|zuHause> it's next to egypt

01:14:22  <krinn> glx, in our garden?

01:14:49  <Eddi|zuHause> afair libya was an italian colony

01:15:20  <glx> africa was an european colony :)

01:16:13  <Eddi|zuHause> i think aethiopia never was a colony

01:16:15  <krinn> european were greatest explorers, they put feet everywhere possible with a wind powered boat :)

01:16:30  <Eddi|zuHause> the italians tried to conquer it, but they utterly failed

01:17:19  <__ln__> is there some great challenge that italians did not utterly fail in?

01:17:19  <krinn> Eddi|zuHause, wasn't long time ago no?

01:17:27  <Eddi|zuHause> that was in 1930-ish

01:17:38  <krinn> i think i heard gadafi speaking about that

01:18:42  <krinn> __ln__, playing with 17 old girls?

01:18:48  <glx> anyway most problems are sequels of (de)colonisation

01:19:29  <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: well, i guess you need to look 2000 years back...

01:19:31  <krinn> like always: power > politic|religon > war

01:20:41  <glx> Eddi|zuHause: they failed for the little village ;)

01:20:50  <krinn> :)

01:21:04  <Eddi|zuHause> glx: ;)

01:21:11  <krinn> the village drown under piss

01:22:56  <krinn> (i hope glx isn't breton, they are too "doch!")

01:23:17  <glx> half

01:24:58  * __ln__ zzzzz

01:25:12  <krinn> yep, time for bed you're right :)

01:25:35  <krinn> night all

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02:30:11  <DanMacK> Hey all

02:31:50  <supermop> hello there

02:32:04  <supermop> do you use devzone, Dan?

02:34:03  <DanMacK> On occasion, yes

02:34:32  <DanMacK> I'm a member to post to OpenGFX but haven't been a huge participant

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02:59:16  <DanMacK> What's up?

03:04:18  <supermop> ah, i was thinking of using it

03:10:41  * DanMacK would ask the Europeans once they're around :P

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04:02:06  <frankVR> hey

04:02:10  <frankVR> quick question

04:02:19  <frankVR> how do you change palyers in single mode?

04:02:54  <frankVR> i was playing a multiplayer game and it crashed, then when i loaded the game it opens in the wrong player.....

04:06:58  <glx> cheat window

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04:21:39  <rane> is there any comprehensive 32bpp train set like grtv set for road vehicles?

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04:31:59  <frankVR> how do you get to the cheat window?

04:32:05  <frankVR> and what do you press

04:32:32  <rane> ctrl+alt+c

04:32:45  <frankVR> thanks mate

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04:35:51  <rane> http://wiki.openttd.org/Rail_Vehicles_%28New_Graphics%29

04:35:53  <rane> lots of WIP :-\

04:36:09  <rane> but those already done are absolutely beautiful

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04:46:45  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: considering that "extra zoom" might not ever make it into a release, these people are possibly setting all the wrong priorities

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04:47:59  <rane> aren't they like making full 3D models anyway

04:48:11  <rane> which can then be photographed by minions at whatever zoom is required

04:48:41  <rane> i thought once a model is done, it can be manipulated into all kinds of zooms

04:48:48  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: the way they are currently doing it results rather in "no"

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04:48:52  <rane> also what's wrong with extra zoom levels so it doesn't get into release?

04:49:05  <rane> it helps me play quite a bit:-)

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04:49:21  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: the resolution of the game doesn't increase when zooming in, so vehicles "jump"

04:49:34  <rane> ok

04:50:34  <rane> i don't mind default graphics tbh

04:50:49  <rane> but i replaced what i could find and it looks terrific

04:51:05  <Eddi|zuHause> rane: the other problem is that "they" made their "32bpp extra zoom" file format incompatible with the "32bpp" version supported in the releases, so you can't just reuse the files for "normal zoom" either

04:51:05  <rane> shame if it's all an exercise in futility

04:51:21  <Eddi|zuHause> at least it used to be like this

04:51:26  <rane> ehhh

04:51:32  <rane> artists :-p

04:52:37  <Eddi|zuHause> and the third problem is that they have been working on this for several years, and haven't shown even the remotest progress in getting to actually finish it

04:53:21  <Eddi|zuHause> in contrast to the 8bpp replacement graphics (opengfx), which have been completed in a fraction of that time

04:53:28  <rane> why can't they just replace everything that's in the base game and then do their other stuff after hours:-)

04:53:38  <rane> whatever "they" means

04:56:45  <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i have grown really completely uninterested in the project

04:58:15  <rane> oh well, maybe when i get back to openttd in 2012 or 2014 or 2016

04:58:20  <rane> they will be done

04:58:22  <rane> :-)

04:58:32  <rane> cause that's my interval pretty much

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07:39:27  <Terkhen> good morning

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07:45:47  <rane> hello

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09:13:11  <Stone> hi does any one of you have expierience to build openttd under mac os x with option --enbale-universal i get the error: Please install/upgrade your Xcode to >= 2.5 <- but i have install xcode 3.2 fresh with every packages that is included, by now i am without any imagination

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09:23:46  * welshdragon emerges from the woodwork

09:25:00  <welshdragon> in the 1.1.0 beta I have opened a scenario that I want to add grf's to, Is this no longer possible?

09:26:11  <Terkhen> Stone: they don't seem to be around now, I can only point you to the compiling on mac os wiki but it's not opening for me for some reason

09:26:32  <Stone> okay

09:28:21  <Stone> Terkhen: I do not know why, but i if i starte "make" i get an error, even if i use ./configure without any other options

09:28:49  <Terkhen> welshdragon: there are threads about why that is disabled by default in the forum, if you already know the consequences of changing NewGRFs ingame, set scenario_developer to true in your openttd.cfg

09:29:48  <Stone> Terkhan: here my pasetbin of the error: http://pastebin.com/Xm8R5EXi

09:30:54  <Terkhen> looks like something mac specific is missing (and I don't know much about that), check if you missed any steps at http://wiki.openttd.org/Compiling_on_Mac

09:31:02  <Terkhen> I wonder why I can't access openttd.org

09:31:31  <Stone> which country are you?

09:31:43  <Terkhen> spain

09:32:19  <Stone> hm crazy, i think you want this side: http://wiki.openttd.org/Compiling_on_Mac

09:32:35  <Stone> doesn't work directly right?

09:33:20  <Terkhen> it should work for you

09:33:46  <welshdragon> Terkhen, that's stupid then, A lot of scenario's are not bundled with GRF's

09:33:55  <Terkhen> or downforeveryoneorjustme is lying

09:34:05  <Stone> i going through the compiling site but didnt help realy

09:34:18  <Stone> can you reach this ip 85.17.162.188

09:34:20  <Terkhen> welshdragon: check the threads at the forum, I don't really want to have this discussion again

09:34:27  <Stone> this the server by the way

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09:35:28  <Terkhen> Stone: the packets are lost somewhere in my ISP network

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09:39:48  <Stone> Terkhen: here are proxy, which works ;)

09:39:58  <Stone> 109.235.49.243:80

09:40:44  <Terkhen> thank you, but I shouldn't be needing that

09:40:55  <Terkhen> if it is not fixed in a few hours I'll contact them

09:44:27  <Stone> anyway the side doesnt help me

09:44:37  <Stone> that was my first adress

09:45:34  <Stone> by now i give and do not want to waste my time for this, even i like the game

09:45:54  <Stone> thx for your help :)

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10:06:15  <rane> why use so long trains in the tgv concept?

10:06:28  <V453000> ?

10:06:56  <V453000> passenger productions are usually very high

10:07:03  <rane> looking at the archives

10:07:24  <V453000> btw you are in the wrong channel

10:16:07  <dihedral> good morning

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10:17:53  <Terkhen> good morning dihedral

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10:26:25  <resq> hallo

10:27:42  <resq> anyone there?

10:28:02  <blathijs> Apparently not too much people ;-p

10:29:43  <resq> I'm getting really mad with this game, can't get cities to grow as I want it :(

10:30:04  <V453000> why is that

10:30:36  <resq> I'm playing scenario europe for over 150years, have settings set to very fast cities grow and metropolies and everything

10:30:39  <__ln__> resq: then you should go out and enjoy the sunshine.

10:31:49  <resq> and my biggest city grew to 40k and stopped, I try everything, transporting goods into several places in town, transporting passengers and valuables and still nothing :/

10:32:03  <resq> grew to 44k and then came back to 40k

10:32:51  <resq> I played this game about a year ago and had the same problem, so I quit, but after a year came back cause I like this game

10:33:18  <Terkhen> resq: http://wiki.openttd.org/Town#Town_Growth

10:33:20  <resq> I can't understand this, I'm using tips from openttd wiki etc

10:33:52  <Terkhen> my connection to openttd.org is back, strange

10:36:00  <resq> anyway, I noticed that cieties that only have few bus stops grow fast, and then I start to build more bus stops and more buses, and they slow down a lot

10:40:31  <resq> Does the station/bus stop transport rating have any affect on city grow?

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10:47:12  <dihedral> i am not sure whether busses are capable of transporting as much as trains / planes can

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10:50:55  <resq> I mean whether passengers transport rating at bus stops has influence on city grow? Or is it that just requires bus traveling between stations.

10:51:53  <Terkhen> Town growth can be accelerated by loading and unloading at least one item of cargo at up to five stations within town influence within a two month period. It does not matter which cargos are loaded/unloaded. <--- rating does not seem to matter

10:53:03  <Eddi|zuHause> of course, rating will usually be low if you don't service frequently, then also the growth bonus won't apply. so there's a correlation but not a causality

10:53:36  <Terkhen> you should also fund new buildings frequently

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10:59:10  <resq> ok thank you, I'll try this

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11:38:50  <peter1138> 1138 o'clock

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11:44:09  <Eddi|zuHause> not true at all!

11:44:18  <Eddi|zuHause> [28.02.2011 12:38] <peter1138> 1138 o'clock

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12:50:24  <Eddi|zuHause> bah... everything is so huge now

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13:12:48  <dihedral> :-)

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13:14:04  <peter1138> Is that what she... never mind.

13:17:21  <Noldo> *tirsk*

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13:36:41  <DanMacK> Hey all

13:43:33  <andythenorth> hi DanMacK

13:49:22  * andythenorth should find a way to hide the 'suggestions' forum from sight

13:52:41  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: pledge to orudge for a more useful ignore feature

13:52:58  <andythenorth> does he sell features for donations? :P

13:53:03  <Belugas> hello

13:54:49  <DanMacK> Hey Andy

14:00:00  * andythenorth will now indicate sound track of bombay:

14:00:02  <andythenorth> beep

14:00:04  <andythenorth> beep beep

14:00:05  <andythenorth> beep

14:00:12  <andythenorth> beep beep beep beep beep beep beep

14:00:14  <andythenorth> beep

14:00:17  <andythenorth> you get the idea :P

14:01:11  <Eddi|zuHause> as long as the "beep" does not increase in rate and suddenly go "boom", then the "bomb" is harmless ;)

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14:01:50  <andythenorth> meh

14:09:25  <Terkhen> andythenorth: do you set property 0x08 for cargos? (bit number for bitmasks)

14:09:33  <Terkhen> I'm wondering if I can ignore it

14:09:41  * andythenorth looks

14:09:55  <Yexo> y

14:10:40  <andythenorth> Terkhen: FIRS does

14:10:52  <Terkhen> hmm... okay

14:11:01  <Terkhen> I guess it does not hurt to set it

14:12:24  <Terkhen> but since I have to move the default ones anyways (they overlap) they won't be of much use

14:12:35  <Terkhen> thanks andythenorth :)

14:14:26  <andythenorth> I didn't code cargos, so I only half-understand them

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14:43:47  <Stone> hi has someone an idea to solve this issue: http://pastebin.com/Xm8R5EXi?

14:44:30  <peter1138> Nice.

14:46:07  <Stone> any idea?

14:46:46  <peter1138> Nope.

14:46:57  <Stone> okay

14:47:06  <Yexo> Stone: mac was not supported for 1.0, you could try compiling 1.1.0-rc1

14:47:36  <Stone> hm okay i will try

14:48:38  <Yexo> I very much doubt that will solve your problem though, it looks like something in your system headers, not something which openttd can do anything about

14:52:30  <Stone> Yexo: btw have you an idea why i get that message i have a to old xcode installed (my one is up-to-date)

14:53:00  <Yexo> maybe you have both and old and new version installed?

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14:53:27  <peter1138> Heh, When did you paste-bin that? Searching for that error gives two results, one of which is your paste.

14:53:39  <Stone> lol

14:53:55  <Stone> i paste it today 3 hour or sth ago

14:55:16  <Stone> i hate do ask, but i do i use makefile Flags right?

14:55:21  <Stone> sry

14:55:30  <Stone> i mean the enviroment variables

14:56:31  <Stone> Cause if i try to compile know i get the lzma issue, to fixed it i installed it about my macports

14:58:17  <Stone> but it still doesnt find it

15:00:33  <Terkhen> did you follow the lzma part of the compiling on mac tutorial?

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15:01:35  <Wolf01> hello

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15:02:30  <Terkhen> hi Wolf01

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15:29:09  <alluke> does anyone know whats that roadset in the second picture?

15:29:10  <alluke> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=44360

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15:33:35  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: yexo * r22157 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: [NewGRF] industry prop 0x11 is 4-bytes long, not 3 bytes

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15:46:10  <DanMacK> alluke - It's YARRS

15:46:28  <DanMacK> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=39925&hilit=YARRS

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15:48:03  <alluke_> wtf

15:48:05  <alluke_> im twice

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15:48:49  <alluke_> still

15:48:50  <alluke_> wtf

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15:52:28  <alluke> now

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16:05:19  <DanMacK> Hey Lakie

16:05:32  <Lakie> Hi DanMacK

16:13:00  <alluke> o hi thar

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16:45:14  <zydeco> greetings

16:45:42  <Terkhen> hi zydeco

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16:53:45  <alluke> lakie

16:53:52  <alluke> have you started the coding yet?

16:54:22  <Lakie> No,

16:54:31  <Lakie> There are stages before just jumping in

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17:04:08  <DanMacK> Lots of prep indeed

17:05:25  <alluke> ok

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17:06:59  <alluke> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjJ3g_wv8H0

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18:30:31  * frosch123 wonders whether aristocratical people have higher chances to become ottd developers

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18:30:45  <peter1138> eh?

18:31:30  <frosch123> just like certain barons can acquire phds :p

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18:40:14  <Nite> Hi!

18:40:31  <Nite> anyone expierienced with ecs 1.0 here?

18:41:02  <Terkhen> @get -3

18:41:02  <DorpsGek> Terkhen: Don't ask to ask, just ask

18:41:18  <Nite> because towns accepting food seems broken in temperate ...

18:42:09  <Terkhen> that's probably a issue of the town/house set

18:42:36  <Nite> well "ecs houses" is used

18:42:59  <Nite> maybee they just need some parameter ...

18:45:29  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: translators * r22158 /trunk/src/lang/ (japanese.txt korean.txt):

18:45:29  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

18:45:29  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: japanese - 39 changes by kokubunzi

18:45:29  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: korean - 119 changes by junho2813, telk5093

18:45:29  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: slovenian - 30 changes by

18:46:25  <Nite> i cannot find ecs houses wiki ... men the ecs wiki is a labyrinth

18:47:29  <Nite> found

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18:51:19  <Nite> ok found aout that it is intended ... that temperate ecs houses accept no food ... breaks the agricultural vector ... ... if anyone intrerested

18:52:19  <Terkhen> Nite: you might want to post in the ECS houses / ECS problems thread about that

18:52:22  <V453000> hm, I played temperate with ecs not long ago and it worked

18:52:41  <Terkhen> as things said in IRC tend to get forgotten

18:53:01  <Markk> Nope.

18:53:03  <Markk> I have logs.

18:53:06  <Markk> As proof.

18:53:14  <Nite> you maybee used "TTRS3" V453000

18:53:30  <V453000> yes, probably

19:01:46  <alluke> why such an odd nick

19:04:02  <V453000> me?

19:05:02  <Belugas> evey nick has a reason

19:05:15  <Belugas> it's on ly odd for those who don't know the reason

19:06:08  <V453000> ^ :)

19:08:57  <Belugas> like... look at me... who would be nicked a whale?  'cause no, it's not the plane, it's indeed the marine mammal...

19:09:10  <Nite> it might be 7331 for "vaseooo" ;)

19:11:19  <Nite> (using UK Towns Set with ecs for temperate food seems 2 work also btw)

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19:58:47  <dihedral> 1.9 :-P

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20:28:35  <rane> i can make a normal screenshot with ctrl+s

20:28:44  <rane> but ctrl+g for "entire map" screenshots produces no file

20:28:56  <rane> any suggestions how to resolve it?

20:29:23  <rane> i've got plenty of space on my drive

20:30:32  <Rubidium> the hotkey was removed, as accidentally pressing it cause quite a few bug reports/complaints

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20:31:26  <Rubidium> but... you can set it in hotkeys.cfg

20:39:15  <rane> cool

20:39:30  <rane> it wasn't that bad an idea to remove it actually

20:40:01  <rane> thank you

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20:41:22  <rane> another thing, can i see terrain somehow by hiding everything there is on the map, even grass?

20:41:36  <rane> i mean just the brown thing underneath

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20:46:25  <frosch123> no, you can only hide most buildings

20:46:49  <frosch123> ctrl+x, and press all buttons, esp. the bottom row

20:48:04  <rane> exactly what i needed:-)

20:48:15  <rane> see the map for what it is

20:48:22  <rane> where ups and lows are

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21:02:23  <frosch123> night

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21:48:14  <avdg> Yexo: when is the wikibot triggered to do its job?

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22:30:17  <Nite> i know how funny requests over irc are especially when the rc is already out ... but

22:30:50  <Nite> why dont we have a left/right scrollbar in the trainlist view !?

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22:31:47  <Nite> and or the shared order view?

22:31:59  <Nite> is it "on the list"?

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22:40:11  <Yexo> avdg: not, I have to trigger it manually

22:41:04  <Yexo> it's hacked together in python and I don't fully trust it, especially not when someone accidentally makes a mistake in using the template

22:41:36  <Yexo> so it requires me to manually confirm every edit it makes (just by pressing enter after reviewing the diff)

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22:42:46  <Yexo> I regularly watch the recent changes page on the wiki, so if I notice any new pages I'll trigger it

22:42:57  <avdg> k :)

22:43:04  <Yexo> in case I do miss a page please notify me either here or by posting on my talk page on the wiki

22:45:57  <Yexo> avdg: if you have any other requests, like moving every dutch article in categoryA to categoryA/Nl for example, feel free to ask

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22:46:38  <avdg> k

22:58:08  <Terkhen> good night

22:58:13  <avdg> gn

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23:19:13  <Wolf01> 'night

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