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00:59:19 <Eddi|zuHause> yaay, it compiles ;)
01:00:01 <Eddi|zuHause> and crashes ;)
01:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause> something seems dodgy with the settings...
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02:40:57 <Lakie> Hmmm... updating OpenGFX whilst active caused an out of range exception (index -3) when attempting to open the Game Options window to change to the default and back to reload the graphics...
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06:22:28 <Terkhen> good morning
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06:28:49 <Yexo> morning
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06:45:53 <hickop> hello , I'm looking for a way to make a lane allowing only fast trains , is it possible please ?
06:50:52 <Tefad> lots and lots of waypoints ; )
06:51:19 <Tefad> or you can do weird tricky crap with signals and useless tracks (other than used for signal propagation)
06:52:31 <Tefad> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/File:Lensort.jpg ehhh this is sort of what i mean, but not quite
06:52:34 <Tefad> bedtime
06:54:24 <hickop> Tefad: ok , thank you and good night :)
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11:04:08 <Eddi|zuHause> so... apparrently it is now running AND working, but the GUI glitches all over the place...
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11:35:09 <crakinshot> hmm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hqx
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12:49:36 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i can't figure this out... with the widget tree, is it possible to hide widgets and automatically resize the window accordingly?
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13:17:44 <Luukland> Goulp Admin here?
13:18:25 <Luukland> Hmmmm, no muxy to be found..
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13:29:55 <Belugas> hello
13:34:43 <crakinshot> good afternoon
13:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause> so... if i get my switches repaired, this is about the most complex track layout i get: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Bildschirmphoto15.png
13:35:33 <Belugas> haaa.. finally... a shot of that network!
13:36:31 <Belugas> hooo... booo... just a diagramm
13:36:37 <Belugas> THE REAL THING!
13:36:53 <crakinshot> what is this for?
13:36:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i'll see about that later...
13:37:17 <crakinshot> (looks interesting)
13:39:26 <Belugas> i guess it's about a real rail network
13:39:31 <Belugas> just a tiny guess
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13:58:11 * Rubidium wonders why the tool isn't called something like FenGleis
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14:01:59 <crakinshot> Eddi|zuHause: I think you're only missing 3-way junctions and, crossover junction in that picture
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14:25:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: because german names are not funky enough...
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14:40:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Something for Belugas: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4214.png (2.5MB)
14:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4216.png (2.5MB)
14:41:19 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't look very pretty, and the bridge is not finished
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14:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> err... ends with .jpg
14:42:44 <Rubidium> your reported size if off by a factor 10000 :)
14:43:29 <Rubidium> guess you meant: ends with .JPG
14:43:41 <Rubidium> as that greets me with a 403 instead of 404
14:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause> a second...
14:45:14 <Eddi|zuHause> try again
14:45:38 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4214.JPG
14:45:41 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/HPIM4216.JPG
14:46:40 <Eddi|zuHause> but once upon a time the server had a "did you mean blah.jpg (common base name)?"
14:47:41 <crakinshot> nice. :)
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14:48:02 <Rubidium> ooh, you turned the electrified railways switch off ;)
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14:48:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah ;)
14:49:09 <Eddi|zuHause> the signals are actually working ;)
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14:57:51 <Belugas> will check later, Eddi|zuHause
14:57:53 <Belugas> thanks anyway
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15:51:00 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause, what make is it?
16:04:06 <Eddi|zuHause> everything except the ICE is from Piko (pre-1990)
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16:06:13 <Eddi|zuHause> H0, DC, Analog
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16:11:38 <Terkhen> hello
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16:36:14 <Belugas> cool, Eddi|zuHause, very cool
16:36:22 <Belugas> that will make my kid drooling like flood
16:36:28 <Eddi|zuHause> :)
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16:55:17 <Eddi|zuHause> but i can't figure out my GUI problem... www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Bildschirmphoto16.png [above: what it should look like, below: what it actually does look like. it draws stuff beyond the window size]
16:57:29 <Rubidium> is there some hidden widget or so?
16:59:25 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a hidden scrollbar, which is kinda hacky, but it doesn't seem to be the reason.
17:01:57 <Rubidium> might the (forced) minimum size of the title be too wide and the other parts not set to automatically scale?
17:10:30 * fjb wonders what desktop picture Eddi|zuHause has.
17:10:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i can tell you: it's jessica alba
17:11:16 <fjb> Poor Jessica... :-)
17:26:40 <_ln> i bet Jessica has Eddi's photo on her desktop
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17:43:51 <tokai|mdlx> Eddi|zuHause: "Fahre zu Herzhaven Flughafen und 0:10:00 lang bleiben" <- what kind of German is that? :)
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17:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> tokai|mdlx: bad one :p
17:45:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17628 /trunk/src/lang/ (danish.txt german.txt unfinished/thai.txt):
17:45:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: danish - 2 changes by beruic
17:45:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: german - 5 changes by dihedral
17:45:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: thai - 119 changes by ityellow
17:45:59 <tokai|mdlx> "... und bleibe für ..." maybe would do, if that time value cannot be formated differently :)
17:47:22 <Eddi|zuHause> minus the virtual time that's a phrase that would appear in current trunk
17:47:28 <Eddi|zuHause> go ahead and fix it ;)
17:48:00 <tokai|mdlx> Nah :) Just pointing with the finger is fun enough for me :)
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17:58:48 <_ln> nd: Spezi
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18:11:35 <andythenorth> evening
18:13:45 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... now it looks right, but the window size is still wrong
18:13:58 <Eddi|zuHause> how do i resize a window from within the code?
18:15:00 <Alberth> ResizeWindow(this, dx, dy) I think
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18:16:19 <Alberth> confirmed, where 'this' is a Window
18:20:07 <Alberth> if it is about the initial size, you can set that in the WindowDesc
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18:22:38 <Eddi|zuHause> it's something weird and possibly hacky, it should have size A when setting X is off, and size A+B when setting X is on
18:24:31 <Eddi|zuHause> and it apparently isn't working like it did 2000 revisions ago anymore
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18:29:27 <Eddi|zuHause> and possibly i have no clue at all how the widget tree works
18:30:06 <Alberth> you have any code?
18:30:17 <Eddi|zuHause> plenty ;)
18:31:27 <Alberth> the right bit of code will do ;)
18:34:27 <Alberth> BTW I am only doing GUI stuff for the last 1830 revisions, plz don't hold me responsible for what happened during the other 170 revisions :p
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18:38:25 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable1.diff <-- that's the state after merging and updating the patch, might have problems loading current savegames
18:38:36 <Eddi|zuHause> the relevant bit is in timetable_gui.cpp
18:39:37 <Eddi|zuHause> and the relevant setting is interface->show arrival and departure in timetables
18:45:30 <Alberth> just looking at the diff atm.
18:45:55 <Eddi|zuHause> there's some weird size juggling in TimetableWindow()
18:46:11 <Alberth> the code is supposed to run with the 'old' widget array apparently?
18:46:23 <Eddi|zuHause> probably
18:46:40 <Eddi|zuHause> but i can't figure out how to update it properly
18:47:41 <Alberth> I am very bad at old GUI trickery, unfortunately.
18:48:26 <Eddi|zuHause> then you might teach me how to achieve the effect with the new widgets ;)
18:49:14 <Eddi|zuHause> basically it has two panels A and B, and panel B should be hidden (and the window shrinked) when the setting is off
18:49:59 <Alberth> http://paste.openttd.org/217028 it does not merge cleanly with current trunk
18:51:07 <Eddi|zuHause> - DrawString(left + 19, right, y, STR_TINT_GROUP, TC_BLACK);
18:51:08 <Eddi|zuHause> + DrawString(left + 19, right, y, STR_TINY_GROUP, TC_BLACK);
18:51:13 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the change ;)
18:53:31 <Alberth> http://paste.openttd.org/217029 reject is much bigger
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18:53:59 <Alberth> vehicle_gui.cpp
18:54:22 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but it only fails on the TINT->TINY replacement
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18:55:57 <Alberth> ok, that makes the patch patchable.
18:58:43 <Alberth> compiler fails halfway without further message
18:59:29 <Alberth> against what revision is it supposed to work?
18:59:33 <Eddi|zuHause> err, what?
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19:00:09 <Eddi|zuHause> 17608
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19:01:16 <Alberth> http://paste.openttd.org/217030
19:02:14 <Eddi|zuHause> how can it stop without telling anything?
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19:02:26 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... possibly i missed the new files
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19:02:33 * Alberth wonders about that too
19:02:40 <Rubidium> date_gui.cpp misses
19:03:01 <Rubidium> actually, all added files seem to be missing
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19:04:39 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable_new.tgz
19:06:25 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: but the makefile could be a tiny bit more verbose at that point ;)
19:08:56 <Rubidium> if you know how to make it do that, please provide a patch
19:11:07 <Eddi|zuHause> test every file in sources.list before compiling?
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19:13:32 <Nite_Owl> Hello all
19:14:30 <Alberth> http://paste.openttd.org/217031 fails on vehicle_gui.cpp
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19:16:36 <Eddi|zuHause> you sure you applied that last chunk?
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19:17:54 <Eddi|zuHause> void BaseVehicleListWindow::DrawVehicleListItems(VehicleID selected_vehicle, bool show_expected) is defined in line 1030 here
19:18:30 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable2.diff against current trunk
19:20:38 <Alberth> apparently not; started again, in r17608
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19:21:27 <Alberth> ok, compiled and running
19:22:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17629 /branches/0.7/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
19:22:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk:
19:22:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Document: AIInfo's functions [FS#3216] (r17627, r17621)
19:22:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Prevent false positives when verifying company and president name lengths (r17611).
19:22:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: When a command did not fail in test run and failed in exec run, error message was not set. Affects only few commands (r17607)
19:22:46 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Crash when defining the same tile in a tile layout twice [FS#3218] (r17605)
19:22:47 <Alberth> what should I do to get the problem?
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19:25:21 <Alberth> ah, the timetable window is a mess :)
19:25:24 <Eddi|zuHause> open the timetable window
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19:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause> some widgets are drawn too far to the right
19:29:01 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17630 /branches/0.7/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [0.7] -Prepare: for 0.7.3-RC2
19:29:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i could manually move all these widgets to the left (by ARR_DEP_WIDTH), but that should not be the point
19:31:47 <Alberth> afaik in the old widget system you have to do that. what else did you have in mind?
19:33:00 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17631 /tags/0.7.3-RC2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Release: 0.7.3-RC2
19:33:08 <Alberth> in the nested widget system there is currently also no way to make parts of a window appear/disappear. I do consider adding that though.
19:35:11 <Alberth> this->resize.width += ARR_DEP_WIDTH; ResizeWindow(this, ARR_DEP_WIDTH, 0); <-- this looks broken. you are changing that resize.width var twice now
19:36:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that's part of the original patch
19:37:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that code is run when the setting is toggled, there's a different part when the window is opened
19:38:48 <Alberth> hmm, ok. maybe it is ok. resize.width apparently is minmal size of the window.
19:40:41 <Alberth> ah, I remember now.
19:41:03 <Alberth> the widgets used are from the nested widgets, not from the old array.
19:41:36 <Alberth> run './openttd -d misc=2' then open the time=table, and you get http://paste.openttd.org/217033
19:42:08 <Eddi|zuHause> aha
19:42:09 <Alberth> that are the nested widgets that are different compared with the widget array
19:42:17 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah
19:42:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i can work that out ;)
19:46:31 <Alberth> many of them (eg the widgets 1, 2, and 3) are caused due to filling (the system makes the window look as good as it can by extending eg the caption)
19:47:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i'm working on an idea
19:47:09 <Alberth> 17 looks suspicious
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19:47:39 <Alberth> 8 too. many others are just shifted
19:48:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, 8 and 17 are the "conditional" panel and button
19:48:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i
19:48:48 <Eddi|zuHause> 'll set them size 0 and try again
19:49:42 <Alberth> 8 probably not. containers fill automatically. To prevent that do SetFill(false, false)
19:52:39 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that looks better, i'm getting there ;)
19:55:08 <Alberth> you have widgets lying over each other, don't you?
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19:55:50 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, no, but those two are sticking out to the right, and the others get padded accordingly
19:56:11 <Eddi|zuHause> but i'm close to the solution ;)
19:56:19 <Alberth> TTV_EXPECTED and TTV_SHARED_ORDER_LIST?
19:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause> oh
19:56:37 <Eddi|zuHause> yes
19:56:51 <Alberth> you can add NWidget(NWID_SPACER) to push them back
19:56:53 <Eddi|zuHause> but that'll get solved when TTV_EXPECTED is width 0 ;)
19:57:45 <Alberth> nested widgets cannot lie over each other by default. You need to do some trickery then.
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19:59:44 <Alberth> TTV_ARR_DEPART_PANEL too then
20:00:15 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, those are the two problematic candidates
20:01:18 <Eddi|zuHause> setting the width to 0 makes the dbg stuff disappear, i now only need to get the resizing right
20:01:25 <Eddi|zuHause> but i can do that ;)
20:01:46 <Alberth> If you need them on top of each other, use NWID_LAYERED or NWID_SELECTION
20:05:48 <Eddi|zuHause> HAH!
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20:07:25 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/timetable3.diff <- seems to be working correctly now
20:07:41 <Eddi|zuHause> the tip with -d misc=2 was what i was missing to understand the problem ;)
20:08:01 <Eddi|zuHause> now the other windows ;)
20:08:32 <Alberth> good
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21:04:03 <Belugas> gone home
21:04:04 <Belugas> ciao
21:04:19 <Alberth> ciao
21:04:57 <Alberth> hmm, typing while already gone?
21:05:57 <Belugas> ghosting
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21:19:58 <Belugas> fucking customer's call... like eternity
21:22:40 <Alberth> good night
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21:27:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17632 /trunk/config.lib: -Change: enable the uninitialized variables warning (or actually undisable)
21:30:49 <Terkhen> good night
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21:32:36 <Belugas> mmee ttoooo
21:32:40 <Belugas> for real
21:33:10 <Nite_Owl> hang up on those pesky customers
21:34:31 <Nite_Owl> do you not wish that you really could do that sometime
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